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US Tries to Stifle Chinese Space Advances

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Chinese Official Urges U.S.-Chinese Space Cooperation
By Peter B. de Selding

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — A top Chinese government space official on April 14 appealed to the U.S. government to lift its decade-long ban on most forms of U.S.-Chinese space cooperation, saying both nations would benefit from closer government and commercial space interaction.

He specifically called for cooperation on manned space flight, in which China has made massive investment in recent years.

Lei Fanpei, vice president of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp. (CASC), which oversees much of China’s launch vehicle and satellite manufacturing industry, said China purchased more than $1 billion in U.S.-built satellites in the 1990s before the de facto ban went into effect in 1999.

Since then, the U.S. International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) have made it impossible to export most satellite components, or full satellites, to China for launch on China’s now successful line of Long March rockets.

The ITAR regulations that tightened the U.S. technology export regime were put into place to punish China for its missile exports, and to slow development of China’s rocket industry by reducing its customer base. Most commercial telecommunications satellites carry at least some U.S. parts, which is why ITAR has all but locked China out of the global commercial launch market.

The U.S. government is reviewing the current ITAR regime, which U.S. industry says has had the unintended effect of making it difficult to sell satellites and satellite components just about anywhere in the world.

At the same time, China’s domestic demand for launches of its own telecommunications, navigation, Earth observation and science satellites — and its manned space program — has given the Long March vehicle sufficient business to earn it a record of reliability.

The global insurance underwriting community now ranks the Long March vehicle alongside Russian and European rockets for reliability when it sets insurance premiums.

Addressing the National Space Symposium here, Lei said Chinese vehicles launched more than 20 U.S.-built satellites in the 1990s.

While cooperation with the United States has been shut down, he said, China has maintained relations with the 18-nation European Space Agency, Brazil, France, Russia and others. China also has developed a telecommunications satellite product line that has been bundled with a Chinese Long March vehicle to offer in-orbit delivery of telecommunications spacecraft to a half-dozen nations that in many cases can offer China access to their crude oil reserves.

Lei said he sees three areas in which U.S.-Chinese cooperation would be in both nations’ interests. The first, he said, is an open commercial access of each nation to the other’s capabilities in satellites and launch vehicles. The second, he said, is manned spaceflight and space science, particularly in deep space exploration. The third is in satellite applications including disaster monitoring and management.
 
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The US has not only set protectionist measures against China's satelite industry, but has also locked China out of the International Space Station. If China and US had joined forces, the Constellation program might still be on track and humans might be walking on the moon right now. Instead of opening to international cooperation, the US has walled itself in against the next biggest space power. At the same time, the US space program is reducing its ambition in the face of a harsh budget.
 
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china has plenty of human and financial resources to go at it alone, I don't see how US can stifle the chinese space program at this point

Thanks for the vote of confidence! China can and is indeed pursuing its own space programs. From space station to moon research, to the first Chinese Mars probe. However, it is a setback to human space advances for the US to ban China's satellite launches, or access to ISS, or even visits to NASA by Chinese officials! Instead of trying to sabotage China's space efforts, the US should cooperate to advance space exploration.
 
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Thanks for the vote of confidence! China can and is indeed pursuing its own space programs. From space station to moon research, to the first Chinese Mars probe. However, it is a setback to human space advances for the US to ban China's satellite launches, or access to ISS, or even visits to NASA by Chinese officials! Instead of trying to sabotage China's space efforts, the US should cooperate to advance space exploration.

right on T, I feel once China surpasses American space achievements and is clearly ahead of NASA, US will become more willing to cooperate. Further progress will also help remove the stupid reverse-engineering claims people throw at Chinese achievements.
You guys have done Asia proud, cheers for more success to you. :china:
 
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right on T, I feel once China surpasses american space achievements and is clearly ahead of NASA, US will become more willing to cooperate.
You guys have done asia proud, cheers for more success to you. :china:

Ya China boys better not troll this one into another radical.
 
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The US has not only set protectionist measures against China's satelite industry, but has also locked China out of the International Space Station. If China and US had joined forces, the Constellation program might still be on track and humans might be walking on the moon right now. Instead of opening to international cooperation, the US has walled itself in against the next biggest space power. At the same time, the US space program is reducing its ambition in the face of a harsh budget.

On the contrary, I think the only way mankind is gonna return to the moon is another space race.
 
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On the contrary, I think the only way mankind is gonna return to the moon is another space race.

A little competition certainly does no harm, but what happens when you move beyond the (relatively accessible) earth satellite? What happens to an insanely expensive manned mars mission? or manned mission to further objects in the solar system? Do you think one country can afford to do it all? You'd need a multinational expedition to provide the funding and the expertise. That's the future of human space flight.
 
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Well, the US, as of late has worked to lift all sanctions it placed on the indian space program - ISRO. Recent months have seen the United states lifting all the restrictions it placed on the exchange of key advanced technologies to India. The indian space program is actually quite comparable to the chinese one. We have a mature industry and a great amount of international exposure. The only thing we are left to do is completing a manned mission.

No space race is possible between china and the US due to the huge gap between the two. However, the next space race will be between india and china due to smaller gap and greater economic clout. The united states has apparantly decided to pit the ISRO against the chinese establishment by injecting key advanced technologies into it. Recent developments in space cooperation leads me to believe India will no longer play the 'catch up' game.
 
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When the Indian space program can use its own cyro engines, and sensors then we can talk about comparing it to the Chinese space program okay?

Its a bit weak when you compare a completely independent program to one that needs imports to function.

This year China will have 21 launches, more than India's entire history of space launches.
 
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