US to resume military training programme for Pakistan: State Dept

[Pakistani Fighter]

Welcome it, Pakistan has plenty of safe guards.

Now for the zulus and block 70.

Why not block 72?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Where is the "waqaar" of Pakistan Army today?

 

[YeBeWarned]

Wing Commander Noman Ali Khan is already there btw.

I am pretty sure that him along with other F-16 pilots and American F-16 pilots will have a good time sharing stories from Feb Conflict .. No matter what Christian unfair says, but I do know American's would be happy about F-16's taking a Su-30 and A Mig 21 down .

What a disaster...

Always a slave to US... As long as Pakistan's military won't shed its love for US, nothing will change.

For the first time, Pakistan is talking or re-initiating its relationship with US on better terms, at least appreciate that .

 

[mingle]

This was in the works for months. Was waiting for news to break.

Looks like we will start getting hardware very soon? I feel American will match China in Pak every field so vipers will come along may new F16 s let's wait. What ur take? I believe it's step in right direction.

 

[Raider 21]

It is kind of a pilot exchange program. Nothing fancy. Go there and get attached to one of their squadrons. Its usually an ACC viper squadron and sometimes its a C-130 squadron aswell.

I'm not sure of the specifics yet.

It is good to have these attachments especially for FAC related training.

 

[Kabotar]

If Pakistan buys F16s it will block with 2 in it. 2 represents PW engine, 0 represents GE engine. Other than that they are the same plane.

Why not block 72?

 

[mingle]

It is good to have these attachments especially for FAC related training.

Question means US pilot fly our jets like Our pilots??

 

[DrWatson775]

Looks like we will start getting hardware very soon? I feel American will match China in Pak every field so vipers will come along may new F16 s let's wait. What ur take? I believe it's step in right direction.

This is just Mil Training.
Maybe a stepwise thaw depending on the Afghanistan situation.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019/12/19/world/asia/19reuters-usa-pakistan.html

 

[TsAr]

So much negativity on this thread..... Military training is essential for armed forces.....Training with the americans would be fruitful for our forces as our pilots will gain significant experience....

 

[CodeforFood]

US to resume military training programme for Pakistan: State Dept

WASHINGTON:

The Trump administration has approved a resumption of Pakistan’s participation in a coveted US military training and educational programme more than a year after it was suspended, the State Department said on Thursday.


The decision to resume Islamabad’s participation in the International Military Education and Training Programme, or IMET – for more than a decade a pillar of US-Pakistani military ties – underscores warming relations that have followed meetings this year between US President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Imran Khan.

Washington also has credited Islamabad with helping to facilitate negotiations on a US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan. The talks recently resumed between the United States and the Taliban.

The State Department administers IMET. It was a small facet of US security aid programmes for Pakistan worth some $2 billion that remain suspended on orders that Trump abruptly issued in January 2018 to compel the nuclear-armed South Asian nation to crackdown on militants. Trump’s decision, announced in a tweet, blindsided US officials.

After an attack earlier this year by an extremist group that killed at least 40 Indian paramilitary troops, US officials called on Pakistan to take “sustained and irreversible action” against militants allegedly operating from its territory.

A State Department spokesperson said in an email that Trump’s 2018 decision to suspend security assistance authorised “narrow exceptions for programmes that support vital US national security interests.” The decision to restore Pakistani participation in IMET was “one such exception,” she said.

The programme “provides an opportunity to increase bilateral cooperation between our countries on shared priorities,” she added. “We want to continue to build on this foundation through concrete actions that advance regional security and stability.”

A second US official said on condition of anonymity that Pakistan was in the process of selecting officers to send to the United States.

The restart of the programme, however, is subject to approval by Congress. Republican and Democratic aides for the Senate and House of Representatives committees with jurisdiction over the process did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

IMET affords spaces to foreign military officers at US military education institutions, such as the US Army War College and the US Naval War College.

Pakistan’s suspension from the programme in August 2018 prompted the cancellation of 66 slots set aside that year for Pakistani military officers in one of the first known impacts of Trump’s decision to halt security assistance.

The US military traditionally has sought to shield such educational programmes from political tensions, arguing that the ties built by bringing foreign military officers to the United States pay long-term dividends.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/212173...kFnk_nOMr-L9ym3a1_Bp61AlRGqLUGfyLM-9moV5JW15w

At the first sign of appeasement, We run back to USA with a smile on our face and "thanks and gratefulness on our lips". I fail to understand this.

 

[MIRauf]

coerced

At the first sign of appeasement, We run back to USA with a smile on our face and "thanks and gratefulness on our lips". I fail to understand this.

Best bang for the buck, plus likely is free. You just have to make sure your staff doesn't stray too far off the course or get coerced into doing something.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Can you expand more on it ? How is it even possible to discriminate.... I wonder how can armed forces allow such thing to happen and still try to fall for the lollipops given to them by Americans.

armed forces send their personnel with an understanding that these courses are not designed to give away their top tier secret methods or training but more are of a goodwill diplomatic exchange with some chance to train together to understand each other how they work, closer allies go next level to that.

now coming discrimination.

such things happen when on one corner there is a country like America and on the other that is Pakistan.
just check out our international conduct and shambles for diplomacy from middle east to far east and west you get your answer

just not to inflict self insult anymore all I can say is that friends, allies brothers and foes treat us the way we behave and conduct ourselves just refer to some international events from middle east to far east.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Refuse to visit the US? Refuse to create personal goodwill with US Military? Refuse the months of interaction and TA/DA? Refuse the future benefits of PR with senior US Military personnel?

Where have you been living mate?

Stop looking at short term benefits which in reality aren't benefits.

The US has abused Pakistan ten times over. There is zero ground for any kind of interaction.

The officers wont.

If they don't they can piss off, but only as individuals and not as representatives of Pak armed forces.

 

[ghazi52]

US to resume military training programme for Pakistan: State Dept

December 20, 2019

US President Donald Trump shakes hands with Prime Minister Imran Khan during a meeting on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York, September 23. — AFP

The Trump administration has approved a resumption of Pakistan's participation in a coveted US military training and educational programme more than a year after it was suspended, the State Department said on Thursday.

The decision to resume Islamabad's participation in the International Military Education and Training Programme, or IMET — for more than a decade a pillar of US-Pakistani military ties — underscores warming relations that have followed meetings this year between US President Donald Trump and Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan.

Washington also has credited Islamabad with helping to facilitate negotiations on a US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan. The talks recently resumed between the United States and the Taliban, who US officials allege receive sanctuary and other aid from Pakistan's military-led intelligence agency. Pakistan denies the charge.

The State Department administers IMET. It was a small facet of US security aid programmes for Pakistan worth some $2 billion that remain suspended on orders that Trump abruptly issued in January 2018 to compel the nuclear-armed South Asian nation to crackdown on Islamist militants. Trump's decision, announced in a tweet, blindsided US officials.

After an attack earlier this year by the banned Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) group that killed at least 40 Indian paramilitary troops in Pulwama, US officials called on Islamabad to take “sustained and irreversible action” against militants allegedly operating from its territory.

A State Department spokeswoman said in an email that Trump's 2018 decision to suspend security assistance authorised “narrow exceptions for programmess that support vital US national security interests.” The decision to restore Pakistani participation in IMET was “one such exception,” she said.

The programme “provides an opportunity to increase bilateral cooperation between our countries on shared priorities,” she added. “We want to continue to build on this foundation through concrete actions that advance regional security and stability.”

A second US official said on condition of anonymity that Pakistan was in the process of selecting officers to send to the United States.

The restart of the programme, however, is subject to approval by Congress. Republican and Democratic aides for the Senate and House of Representatives committees with jurisdiction over the process did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

IMET affords spaces to foreign military officers at US military education institutions, such as the US Army War College and the US Naval War College.

Pakistan's suspension from the programme in August 2018 prompted the cancellation of 66 slots set aside that year for Pakistani military officers in one of the first known impacts of Trump's decision to halt security assistance.

The US military traditionally has sought to shield such educational programmes from political tensions, arguing that the ties built by bringing foreign military officers to the United States pay long-term dividends.

 

[araz]

armed forces send their personnel with an understanding that these courses are not designed to give away their top tier secret methods or training but more are of a goodwill diplomatic exchange with some chance to train together to understand each other how they work, closer allies go next level to that.

now coming discrimination.

such things happen when on one corner there is a country like America and on the other that is Pakistan.
just check out our international conduct and shambles for diplomacy from middle east to far east and west you get your answer

just not to inflict self insult anymore all I can say is that friends, allies brothers and foes treat us the way we behave and conduct ourselves just refer to some international events from middle east to far east.

It was always a good method for the US to maintain its goodwill in the PAF. Possibly a hunting ground for anyone willing to sell some secrets as well. But that is not their fault. Frankly only a silly man like Trump could not have seen the utility of this programme so restarting it was a given.
For the PAF it is a methodology for learning newer concepts in air warfare which will invariably affect its performance in future battles.
Education and training can never be bad. However indoctrination which can be a consequence of it needs to be guarded against very vigilantly
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