US to Call on UN Security Council to an Emergency Meeting on Iran

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The UNSC needs to be united for any resolution.
Both China and Russia want Carte-Blance for repressing their citizens, so they are bound to veto any resolution demanding for a stop of government murders in any country.
This approach also stops UN involving themselves in Myanmar.

lol what? It is the US who is repressing their citizens more than most of other countries in the world. About 1000 people killed by police annually. Most number of prisoners. Regular violent crackdowns on protests. And yet its the US who demands for a stop of murderings in various countries. Delusional guy with weird logic, maybe China and Russia just dont want criminal state to become self-proclaimed ruler of the world? Never thought about that?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Are you blind?

I talked about UN resolutions against Israel and not UNSC, while Israel's friend US VETOed every resolution against Israel in UNSC.

And question was why the double standards of US and Israel. When this same UN passes resolution against Israel, then UN becomes Nazi for Zionists and Trump.

And Russia and China are not alone, but US vetos too all the resolutions in UNSC against illegal settlements of Israel and never calls for UNSC meetings against Israel's illegal settlements.

That is why I said that US and Zionists are the biggest cry babies in the world.

No sources for Your comment about UN = Nazis.
Keep on producing hot air...

lol what? It is the US who is repressing their citizens more than most of other countries in the world. About 1000 people killed by police annually. Most number of prisoners. Regular violent crackdowns on protests. And yet its the US who demands for a stop of murderings in various countries. Delusional guy with weird logic, maybe China and Russia just dont want criminal state to become self-proclaimed ruler of the world? Never thought about that?

It is very different to kill armed thiefs and murderers than to kill civilians protesting against self appointed dictators.
Never thought about that?

 

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It is very different to kill armed thiefs and murderers than to kill civilians protesting against self appointed dictators.
Never thought about that?

This is what US police do kill civilian protesters and random civilians even children. Never heard of that? Could you show me anything like that happening in Russia?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Yes, the same should apply to Jerusalem, which ridiculously, 14 vote in favor while U.S itself vetoes it. Or like how we never see issues like human right situation in many western allies or even U.S or Europe itself. Or how western countries don't ever answer for their crimes or wars across the world. Yes you are right, UNSC is a joke, but you are a hypocrite if you only blame Russia or China on its shortcoming. The whole UNSC system is based on rules of jungle, where the selected few with nuclear weapons can decide for world 'security'.
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The UNSC only works when the permanent members agree.
That is what I said in my first statement in this thread.
For this specific case, it is definitely warranted to blame Russia and China.

If the human right situation anywhere has not been discussed, then it is because noone wanted to discuss it. Any member of the UNSC has the capability to request a meeting.
The Human Rights situation in all countries are monitored by International Organisations.
These of course include Western Countries as well.

Many countries does not take Human Rights seriously as shown by elections of those that are supposed to monitor the situation.

When did Iran have to answer for their illegal occupation of the US Embassy?
Plenty of things that go unpunished...

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The UNSC only works when the permanent members agree.
That is what I said in my first statement in this thread.
For this specific case, it is definitely warranted to blame Russia and China.

If the human right situation anywhere has not been discussed, then it is because noone wanted to discuss it. Any member of the UNSC has the capability to request a meeting.
The Human Rights situation in all countries are monitored by International Organisations.
These of course include Western Countries as well.

Many countries does not take Human Rights seriously as shown by elections of those that are supposed to monitor the situation.

When did Iran have to answer for their illegal occupation of the US Embassy?
Plenty of things that go unpunished...

Hmm, why don't we look at what the world thinks?

UN vote to condemn the USA for moving their embassy to Jerusalem:

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

This is what US police do kill civilian protesters and random civilians even children. Never heard of that? Could you show me anything like that happening in Russia?

Thiefs and Murderers are not civilian protesters.

The US is an extremely violent society, but rarely government forces are called out to kill protesters.
It happened at Kent State University almost 50 years ago, but this resulted in a Presidental Investigation which concluded:

”Even if the guardsmen faced danger, it was not a danger that called for lethal force. The 61 shots by 28 guardsmen certainly cannot be justified. Apparently, no order to fire was given, and there was inadequate fire control discipline on Blanket Hill. The Kent State tragedy must mark the last time that, as a matter of course, loaded rifles are issued to guardsmen confronting student demonstrators.”

Since then, the police has equipment much more suitable for crowd control.

Russia predecessor, the USSR certainly was much more violent at that time.
How many were killed in the Prague Spring 1968?

Hmm, why don't we look at what the world thinks?

UN vote to condemn the USA for moving their embassy to Jerusalem:

The UNGA can make recommendations, not more, so this will be irrelevant.
It is highly likely that, if the general opinion on how a peace agreement should look like
between Israel and Arabs is implemented, the rest of the world will follow the US decision.
This includes China.

Personally, I think the original UN recommendation to separate Jerusalem from both Israel and an Arab state is good, but unfortunately the Arabs blew it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The UNGA can make recommendations, not more, so this will be irrelevant.

Yes because in the Security Council it was vetoed by the USA.

The vote was 14-1.

The USA was the only country to oppose it.

Personally, I think the original UN recommendation to separate Jerusalem from both Israel and an Arab state is good, but unfortunately the Arabs blew it.

If they blew it, then how come the USA and Israel are standing alone against the rest of the world in the UN?

The USA and Israel both pulled out of UNESCO and are threatening to leave the UN altogether.

 

[Serpentine]

The UNSC only works when the permanent members agree.
That is what I said in my first statement in this thread.
For this specific case, it is definitely warranted to blame Russia and China.

If the human right situation anywhere has not been discussed, then it is because noone wanted to discuss it. Any member of the UNSC has the capability to request a meeting.
The Human Rights situation in all countries are monitored by International Organisations.
These of course include Western Countries as well.

Many countries does not take Human Rights seriously as shown by elections of those that are supposed to monitor the situation.

When did Iran have to answer for their illegal occupation of the US Embassy?
Plenty of things that go unpunished...

The whole Veto thing by only 5 countries is lame, the fact that you only like you blame China and Russia is lame as well. U.S or European countries have also vetoed various resolutions that were against their interests. The thing is, the whole 'human right' discussion thing in UNSC is mostly sham, often bringing up countries that are not that friendly with the west. That doesn't mean I support everything China or Russia do, I also oppose their stances in some cases, like Myanmar.


Anyway, bringing up Iran's case in UNSC was another ridiculous maneuver by Trump the Clown which backfired badly, again, like Jerusalem. If this was a sincere move, tens of similar cases could be brought up in UNSC, like new year vandalism in France in which 1000 cars were burnt or black lives matter movement in U.S which attracted a much larger crowd compared to what happened to Iran, or bringing up human rights in Saudi Arabia, UAE or Bahrain, legitimate protests of Bahrainis which has been suppressed by Saudi regime with west approval and many other similar cases. You see, it's all full of hypocrisy. So don't try the twist the reality like UNSC actually is sincere about human rights. UNSC doesn't even have the moral authority to dictate human rights on anyone, given huge violations by its own members.

 

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No sources for Your comment about UN = Nazis.
Keep on producing hot air...

Have you forgotten what Netanyahu said about UN? And what Trump and Nikki said about UN? And what type of propaganda Zionists are doing against UN?

They start with UN being an enemy of Israel, and then comes the charge of anti-Semitism which itself means being of Nazi origin.

It's not an issue of hot air or cold air, but it is an Issue of hypocrisy and double standards of US and Israel, when this same UN becomes legitimate when it announces the creation of state of Israel, and also when UN is serving the interests of Israel and US like sanctions upon Iran. But when it comes to the illegal settlements of Israel, then this same UN becomes anti Semitic and an enemy of Israel and looses all it's credibility.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The whole Veto thing by only 5 countries is lame, the fact that you only like you blame China and Russia is lame as well. U.S or European countries have also vetoed various resolutions that were against their interests. The thing is, the whole 'human right' discussion thing in UNSC is mostly sham, often bringing up countries that are not that friendly with the west. That doesn't mean I support everything China or Russia do, I also oppose their stances in some cases, like Myanmar.


Anyway, bringing up Iran's case in UNSC was another ridiculous maneuver by Trump the Clown which backfired badly, again, like Jerusalem. If this was a sincere move, tens of similar cases could be brought up in UNSC, like new year vandalism in France in which 1000 cars were burnt or black lives matter movement in U.S which attracted a much larger crowd compared to what happened to Iran, or bringing up human rights in Saudi Arabia, UAE or Bahrain, legitimate protests of Bahrainis which has been suppressed by Saudi regime with west approval and many other similar cases. You see, it's all full of hypocrisy. So don't try the twist the reality like UNSC actually is sincere about human rights. UNSC doesn't even have the moral authority to dictate human rights on anyone, given huge violations by its own members.

Feel free to open a thread on other resolutions, meanwhile we are discussing Iran.

For this discussion, Russia and China are blocking because they do not want to support anything that would give the UN right to criticize repression within their own countries.

Moving an embassy unlike killing protesters is not a human rights violation.

Why would the UN discuss french hooligans?
Black Live Matter demonstrations have not been attacked by government forces.
Why should the UN discuss those?
US police is an equal opportunity killer, with about half the killed beeing white criminals and one quarter beeing black criminals.

Iran is free to bring up Saudi and Gulf state Human Rights violations (next time in the UNSC) but Russia and China will veto this as well.

The hypocrites are those that put Saudis in charge of Human Rights.

Have you forgotten what Netanyahu said about UN? And what Trump and Nikki said about UN? And what type of propaganda Zionists are doing against UN?

They start with UN being an enemy of Israel, and then comes the charge of anti-Semitism which itself means being of Nazi origin.

It's not an issue of hot air or cold air, but it is an Issue of hypocrisy and double standards of US and Israel, when this same UN becomes legitimate when it announces the creation of state of Israel, and also when UN is serving the interests of Israel and US like sanctions upon Iran. But when it comes to the illegal settlements of Israel, then this same UN becomes anti Semitic and an enemy of Israel and looses all it's credibility.

You can be an anti-semite without beeing a Nazi, so that won’t fly.
Neither Israel nor the US has called the UN a Nazi organisation.

Many UN organisations have proven themselves to be an enemy of Israel, so nothing new.
There are multiple reasons why certain actions of the UN can be considered anti-semite.
I am not aware that the UN opinion on settlements is one of them.

Organisations which spend 90% of their time criticizing Israel is.

 

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Feel free to open a thread on other resolutions, meanwhile we are discussing Iran.

For this discussion, Russia and China are blocking because they do not want to support anything that would give the UN right to criticize repression within their own countries.

Russia and China are blocking because they dont want to give a country, that represses its own citizens more than anyone else in UNSC, the right to selectively condemn repressions in other countries. Got it?

Iran is free to bring up Saudi and Gulf state Human Rights violations (next time in the UNSC) but Russia and China will veto this as well.

It will be vetoed by US. As well as anything related to repressions in Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia or US itself.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Russia and China are blocking because they dont want to give a country, that represses its own citizens more than anyone else in UNSC, the right to selectively condemn repressions in other countries. Got it?

It will be vetoed by US. As well as anything related to repressions in Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia or US itself.

The country in question would be China, closely followed by Russia.
That makes Your comment ludicrous.
People from all over the world is trying to move to the West, and not to Russia or China.
There is a reason for it.

Furthermore, condemning Iran in this case would not convey any general license of condemnation, so your argument does not hold.

The issue was not if the UNSC would veto it, the issue was if the UNSC would discuss it.

 

[$@rJen]

We supported Turkey and the Khilafat movement due to our strong emotions... Do not underestimate it...

Funny... So what happened to it ??? Nothing worked right... !!

 

[veg]

You can be an anti-semite without beeing a Nazi, so that won’t fly.

There is not such a big difference.
Let us say Netanyahu and US blamed UN for being anti-semite, still it is not going to change the hypocrisy and double standards of Israel/US where UN becomes sacred when it announces creation of Israel, but becomes anti-semite when same UN passes resolution against the illegal settlements of Israel.

Neither Israel nor the US has called the UN a Nazi organisation.

It is enough if they have blamed UN for being anti-semite and US doing VETO against all the resolutions against illegal settlements of Israel.

Many UN organisations have proven themselves to be an enemy of Israel, so nothing new.

The same hypocrisy continues.
These are ALL the countries of the world who passed resolution against the illegal settlements of Israel.
When you blame UN for being anti-semite, then you are blaming ALL these countries (including all European Countries) for being anti-semite.
And please don't try to hide behind "many UN organisations) while these are ALL UN organisations (which are related to this Issue) have condemned these illegal Israeli settlements.

There are multiple reasons why certain actions of the UN can be considered anti-semite.

No other reason except for Israeli hypocrisy and double standards to blame same European Countries for being anti Semite, although these same European countries created Israel.

Organisations which spend 90% of their time criticizing Israel is.

This shows problem lies in Israel and not in UN.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

There is not such a big difference.
Let us say Netanyahu and US blamed UN for being anti-semite, still it is not going to change the hypocrisy and double standards of Israel/US where UN becomes sacred when it announces creation of Israel, but becomes anti-semite when same UN passes resolution against the illegal settlements of Israel.

It is enough if they have blamed UN for being anti-semite and US doing VETO against all the resolutions against illegal settlements of Israel.

The same hypocrisy continues.
These are ALL the countries of the world who passed resolution against the illegal settlements of Israel.
When you blame UN for being anti-semite, then you are blaming ALL these countries (including all European Countries) for being anti-semite.
And please don't try to hide behind "many UN organisations) while these are ALL UN organisations (which are related to this Issue) have condemned these illegal Israeli settlements.

No other reason except for Israeli hypocrisy and double standards to blame same European Countries for being anti Semite, although these same European countries created Israel.

This shows problem lies in Israel and not in UN.

Statistics show the bias.

https://www.unwatch.org/un-to-adopt-20-resolutions-against-israel-3-on-rest-of-the-world/