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US suspends military aid to Pakistan. Military says it doesn't need it.

Wrong!

Pak Army does want this money.

In fact, most of tis aid goes to Pak army itself.

I don't understand why you guys blame the politicians when it's the Pak Army that gobbles up most of the aid.


Your opinion is biased since the Pakistan Army burns a flame under India's b..... That is why you are spilling posion against our armed forces. Clean the corruption in India before poking your nose in Pakistan's internal affairs.
 
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Wrong!

Pak Army does want this money.

In fact, most of tis aid goes to Pak army itself.

I don't understand why you guys blame the politicians when it's the Pak Army that gobbles up most of the aid.

We blame Politicians because we send them to parliament to control and manage national institution (including Army). But instead of working for country and do their duty, they start running after money and start corruption. Which is the root cause which provides excuse to establishment that they have to get involved to save country.
 
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The New York Times is reporting that the Obama administration is upset with Pakistan for expelling American military trainers and wants tougher action against the Taliban and others fighting American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Report: US could suspend hundreds of millions in aid unless Pakistan fights militants tougher - The Washington Post

The Washington Post.

pls change the thread heading bcuz it is misleading - 'US could' - already the US congress has passed the US2B in aid for 2011-12. there were 2 votes taken and the bill passed each time. in anycase the US is never happy with us.
 
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We blame Politicians because we send them to parliament to control and manage national institution (including Army). But instead of working for country and do their duty, they start running after money and start corruption. Which is the root cause which provides excuse to establishment that they have to get involved to save country.

Look. politicians are corrupt everywhere.

That is universal truth.

The thing is, though, that your Generals DO NOT want to be governed be 'bloody civilians'.

...thats the root cause of all your problems.
 
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Of course, honey.

We are very happy.

As long as this money is not used to build bridges, schools, hospitals, roads etc. we are and will be very happy.

What else could an Indian want?

We are building dams, bridges, schools etc.

You are building bombs and guns.

It's good for us..no in fact, it's great for us!

;)

before building dams and bridges, please provide food to your poor nation which amounts more then entire africa, food and medicine are more imp and basic needs than bridges and buildings
 
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Look. politicians are corrupt everywhere.

That is universal truth.

The thing is, though, that your Generals DO NOT want to be governed be 'bloody civilians'.

...thats the root cause of all your problems.

One thing i appreciate your politicians is that they can be more corrupt than our politicians but they are loyal to India. So, They don't compromise on India's National/International Interests and don't do things which can put India's existence in question mark. That's why your Army doesn't need to interfere. But that's not the case with Pak Politicians.
 
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Pak army and people both don't want this money!!!

We are given 20 billion dollars and we lost 68 billion dollars due to this war!!!

This is complete loss, 35000 civilians and 5000 soldiers died and still U.S is saying DO MORE!!!

Its time for Pakistan to say NO MORE!!!

Come on who are you kidding...If some one is handing you money and you don't want it ..it is very easy to say No!!

Fact is you took money to create these groups back in 80s and now you are taking money to destroy them...but what does that make you?
But if you thought that there will be no spillover, when you set out to create these groups on America's behest..it was a gross miscalculation on your part.

Fact is that your leaders both civilian and non civilian repeatedly request US administration for more handouts...remember Gen Zia's famous words.."It is(American aid then) is peanuts"

A couple of months ago when news came out that US will be replacing Pakistani P-3c orions destroyed in Mehran attack with funds from FMA..I did not see any one complaining then..why!!??
 
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Come on who are you kidding...If some one is handing you money and you don't want it ..it is very easy to say No!!

Fact is you took money to create these groups back in 80s and now you are taking money to destroy them...but what does that make you?
But if you thought that there will be no spillover, when you set out to create these groups on America's behest..it was a gross miscalculation on your part.

Fact is that your leaders both civilian and non civilian repeatedly request US administration for more handouts...remember Gen Zia's famous words.."It is(American aid then) is peanuts"

A couple of months ago when news came out that US will be replacing Pakistani P-3c orions destroyed in Mehran attack with funds from FMA..I did not see any one complaining then..why!!??

We (Pakistani civilians) are saying no to this money from a long time but politicians are taking this to fill their pockets because they are corrupt so when politicians want to fill their pockets they will never say no to U.S money!!!

you said we need this money to destroy them, no sir its not true we can destroy them without U.S money in fact Pak army said that they want this money to be spent on civilians!!!

Angry Pakistani army says it doesn't want U.S. aid | McClatchy

Mujahideens were created by U.S to defeat soviet union when the work was done U.S injected their puppets (Bin Laden, Al-Zawahiri etc) in them to use them against their next target that is pakistan!!!

Now you will say why pakistan??? my brother all U.S wars are for economy U.S want to stop chinese access to gulf market which can benefit china very much and a powerful china is not in their interest, pakistan is providing them short route to gulf that's why pakistan become their enemy!!!

Their mercenaries destroyed p-3c orion they have to pay us back!!!
 
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We should start a fund to give Congress some aid money, so that they stick to this decision. We have always seen this drama in the past only to somehow see congress increasing the aid to Pakistan.
 
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The real question is where are these aid money spend?

Is it for military or is it filling pockets of politicians.???

Do the budgets refer and show the records of spending of this money?

Does a comptroller and auditor general work in Pakistan??

i guess not.

the problem is some amount of aid goes to corrup..........................well we know who.

significant part is goes to anti India activities.

then remaining aid is utilized for 'official work' for which aid is given
 
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We (Pakistani civilians) are saying no to this money from a long time but politicians are taking this to fill their pockets because they are corrupt so when politicians want to fill their pockets they will never say no to U.S money!!!
You Pakistani civilians do not pay your taxes..where else do you expect your govt to find money to run your country..if not foreign handouts.
you said we need this money to destroy them, no sir its not true we can destroy them without U.S money in fact Pak army said that they want this money it should be spent on civilians!!!

Angry Pakistani army says it doesn't want U.S. aid | McClatchy

I would like see the day ..when Pakistani armed forces actually rejects the US money or its weapons..passing statements is easy ..find the will to do it.
Mujahideens were created by U.S to defeat soviet union when the work was done U.S injected their puppets (Bin Laden, Al-Zawahiri etc) in them to use them against their next target that is pakistan!!!

No!!, Mujahedeen were created by Pakistan and paid for by US..they were trained in Pakistani Madarasaas under the watch full eye of Pakistani army(ISI)
Now you will say why pakistan??? my brother all U.S wars are for economy U.S want to stop chinese access to gulf market which can benefit china very much and a powerful china is not in their interest, pakistan is providing them short route to gulf that's why pakistan become their enemy!!!

Pakistan is not an enemy of USA(atleast not yet).
Their mercenaries destroyed p-3c orion they have to pay us back!!!

Bullshit!!..Even if we assume your version is true...'that US paid Taliban to take out your P-3Cs ' so now you expect them to replace your losses..how dumb do you think they are..or is it you?
ie..First they pay Taliban to take out your aircrafts and then they give you more aircrafts from their own pocket!!
 
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We should start a fund to give Congress some aid money, so that they stick to this decision. We have always seen this drama in the past only to somehow see congress increasing the aid to Pakistan.

Increase in aid is also accompanied with a General taking over who usually has all the blessings from Washington
 
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i guess not.

the problem is some amount of aid goes to corrup..........................well we know who.

significant part is goes to anti India activities.

then remaining aid is utilized for 'official work' for which aid is given

If money goes in Pockets of Corrupt peoples than how can it be Anti-India :cheesy:
 
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