US signs nuclear technology deal with Vietnam

[EastSea]

Vietnam, Russia to push military technical links

Vietnam, Russia boost joint technical-military endeavors
Viet Nam and Russia have agreed to ramp up technical-military cooperation in an effort to deepen bilateral ties.
The statement was made at the 15th meeting of the Viet Nam-Russia Inter-Governmental Committee on Military-Technical Cooperation in Ha Noi yesterday (Oct 10).

iet Nam and Russia have agreed to ramp up technical-military cooperation in an effort to deepen bilateral ties.— Photo mod

It was co-hosted by Deputy Defence Minister Sen. Lieut. Gen. Truong Quang Khanh and Deputy Director of the Russian Federal Services for Military-Technical Cooperation Viacheslav Karlovich Dzirkaln.
Both sides praised the joint history of friendship and co-operation between their two countries, particularly in shoring up military ties in accordance with the strategic partnership.
They agreed on cooperation in key areas to meet each country's demands and interests.
The Russian delegation's working visit to Viet Nam began on Wednesday at the invitation of Deputy Defence Minister Khanh - who is also head of the Vietnamese Sub-Committee - and will end today.

 

[cnleio]

VNese - Russian are good brothers , we can use that trick to cheat China and our ASEAN neighbours. U cant check our nuclear rods so of course u cant know exactly they r fake or not

Less nuclear country and More PEACE, the Russian knew it. Or today not only several countries can make nukes in this world.

If Russian really support Vietnamese build Nuke, it's impossible twenty years nothing progress in VN nuclear technology, no detect VN's uranium mine, no imported civilian nuclear technology from U.S and Japan, no to buy nuclear rods from American, no VN's Uranium purification plant, no VN's domestic nuclear power plant yet.

U just waste ur TIME ! @NiceGuy just cheat urself !

If u nuke us, we will get the same disater

at least nuke plant in the middle of VN will also pollute the SCS(east sea) , and your oil tankers will not be able to pass through, your economy will collapse too

Waste our Nukes ... U r CRAZY and 'Genius' using nuclear power plant as nuclear weapon.

 

[NiceGuy]

Waste our Nukes ... U r CRAZY and 'Genius' using nuclear power plant as nuclear weapon.

New technology will help us to make it secretly, dude

Laser Nuclear Technology Might Pose Security Risk

A Dangerously Small Footprint

But the downside is that a laser-based enrichment plant can be much smaller and use much less electricity. And that could make a clandestine operation much harder to detect, he says.

"That's the worry — things are starting to get so small and so efficient that it's below the detection limit," Slakey says. "Which creates an enormous proliferation challenge."
Laser Nuclear Technology Might Pose Security Risk : NPR

 

[Soryu]

Waste our Nukes ... U r CRAZY and 'Genius' using nuclear power plant as nuclear weapon.

And you discuss with crazy people, you're crazy too .

 

[jhungary]

Alright, but still need to bomb VN nuclear reactor and pollute their ground water & lands first, then affect China almost in GuangXi province.
The most victims will be Vietnamese, at least ten years nobody can live in North of Vietnam, and the Hanoi city also in North close to China border.

The truth is it will be a dirty bomb build in VN. If VN like to become next Chernobyl, go ahead~!

Chernobyl nuclear pollute map, if VN nuclear power plant meltdown it will seriously pollute North of Vietnam.

As I said, the bomb blast is not actually much if a nuke plant were undergoing a critical meltdown

What kills is the fall out....

I would not say China will be better off if the nuke plant was blown up in Vietnam, cause fall out float where the wind pick up. If that was a north to north-east wind that were blowing up that day, china will be in a lot more deep **** than Vietnam. And half-life of those Uranium 235 is about 10 million year, so technical if Vietnam did not clean up the mess, the fall out blows will last at least 10 millions years

So don't be so sure china will be in the clear

 

[cnleio]

As I said, the bomb blast is not actually much if a nuke plant were undergoing a critical meltdown

What kills is the fall out....

I would not say China will be better off if the nuke plant was blown up in Vietnam, cause fall out float where the wind pick up. If that was a north to north-east wind that were blowing up that day, china will be in a lot more deep **** than Vietnam. And half-life of those Uranium 235 is about 10 million year, so technical if Vietnam did not clean up the mess, the fall out blows will last at least 10 millions years

So don't be so sure china will be in the clear

Okay, i agree it will pollute some China areas when wind carry radioactive dust and rain in South of China. But...

1. VN's lands will be more polluted, specially in rainy day.

2. VN's ground water also will be polluted, rainwater and river will carry radioactive dust into the ground. If the reactor meltdown continue, it's just time whole core to pollute local groundwater system in North of Vietnam. The worst situation is radioactive dust into the Mekong River.

3. In Winter the Monsoon generally blow from mainland of China to the South-West (Indo-China countries), so it will seriously pollute South of Vietnam and other Southeast Asian Nations. Only in Summer, the Monsoon can carry dust blow to China from North of Vietnam.

4. If VN's nuclear pollution leak to seawater, the Ocean Current will carry these radioactive dust floating on the South China Sea. It will pollute coastline of Philippines,Brunei,Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia. It's hard to carry radioactive dust into the West Pacific Ocean,only continue affect other Southeast Asian Nations around South China Sea.

So i had said it's a stupid idea to use nuclear power plant threat China, the biggest victims were Vietnamese and it's very easy to pollute other Southeast Asian Nations.

 

[jhungary]

Okay, i agree it will pollute some China areas when wind carry radioactive dust and rain in South of China. But...

1. VN's lands will be more polluted, specially in rainy day.

2. VN's ground water also will be polluted, rainwater and river will carry radioactive dust into the ground. If the reactor meltdown continue, it's just time whole core to pollute local groundwater system in North of Vietnam. The worst situation is radioactive dust into the Mekong River.

3. In Winter the Monsoon generally blow from mainland of China to the South-West (Indo-China countries), so it will seriously pollute South of Vietnam and other Southeast Asian Nations. Only in Summer, the Monsoon can carry dust blow to China from North of Vietnam.

4. If VN's nuclear pollution leak to seawater, the Ocean Current will carry these radioactive dust floating on the South China Sea. It will pollute coastline of Philippines,Brunei,Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia. It's hard to carry radioactive dust into the West Pacific Ocean,only continue affect other Southeast Asian Nations around South China Sea.

So i had said it's a stupid idea to use nuclear power plant threat China, the biggest victims were Vietnamese and it's very easy to pollute other Southeast Asian Nations.

Really not want to go deep in these issue

But I will still briefly reply your point

1, 2, and 3.) As I said, it really REALLY depend on prevailing wind direction and wind gust. The stronger the wind, the further the nuclear fallout will spread. It's about astronomical signature. It could have been blowing NNE wind and bring the fall out into western China, or it will blow SSW wind and bring the fallout back to Hanoi, or it will be a clam day and the fall out stay where it is

Unless there are rain, fallout will not be wash down to earth or water table.
Again, it's astronomical, it's just a chance

4.) fall out on that scale will no be lead to SCS unless Vietnam intent to do so, however, again depending on the location of the plant, wind gust and disicipation, Even if Vietnam do intent to release the radioactive water into SCS the damage will not be that much anyway. As you know, the sea is Hugh and there are only limited U235 in a 12 kg nuclear core.

I am not saying they will do what it will do in china or the Vietnamese will use it as a weapon, just saying the effect is not small as you stated, that's all

 

[cnleio]

Really not want to go deep in these issue

But I will still briefly reply your point

1, 2, and 3.) As I said, it really REALLY depend on prevailing wind direction and wind gust. The stronger the wind, the further the nuclear fallout will spread. It's about astronomical signature. It could have been blowing NNE wind and bring the fall out into western China, or it will blow SSW wind and bring the fallout back to Hanoi, or it will be a clam day and the fall out stay where it is

Unless there are rain, fallout will not be wash down to earth or water table.
Again, it's astronomical, it's just a chance

4.) fall out on that scale will no be lead to SCS unless Vietnam intent to do so, however, again depending on the location of the plant, wind gust and disicipation, Even if Vietnam do intent to release the radioactive water into SCS the damage will not be that much anyway. As you know, the sea is Hugh and there are only limited U235 in a 12 kg nuclear core.

I am not saying they will do what it will do in china or the Vietnamese will use it as a weapon, just saying the effect is not small as you stated, that's all

Relax, if it really happened we will help our VN bros to artificial rainfall infiltration, make many artifical rainy days in North of Vietnam . If necessary, we can launch DF15,DF21,DF31 strategic missiles carry tons of Dry Ice 'warhead' into clouds of North of Vietnam.

Continuous heavy rains will save CHINA !!!

 

[jhungary]

Relax, if it really happened we will help our VN bros to artificial rainfall infiltration, make many artifical rainy days in North of Vietnam . If necessary, we can launch DF15,DF21,DF31 strategic missiles carry tons of Dry Ice 'warhead' into clouds of North of Vietnam.

Continuous heavy rains will save CHINA !!!

Lol, are you for real?

You do know dry ice is CO2 not water right? The moment it hit the air, it gone straight back to carbon dioxide....

Afaik you will only make a lot of green house gas where you launch your DF-Whatever...

 

[cnleio]

Lol, are you for real?

You do know dry ice is CO2 not water right? The moment it hit the air, it gone straight back to carbon dioxide....

Afaik you will only make a lot of green house gas where you launch your DF-Whatever...

Cloud seeding, a form of intentional weather modification

The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide and dry ice (solid carbon dioxide). Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide. The use of hygroscopic materials, such as table salt, is becoming more popular[citation needed] after promising research.

Dry ice or propane expansion cools the air to such an extent that ice crystals can nucleate spontaneously from the vapor phase. Unlike seeding with silver iodide, this spontaneous nucleation does not require any existing droplets or particles because it produces extremely high vapor supersaturations near the seeding substance. However, the existing droplets are needed for the ice crystals to grow into large enough particles to precipitate out.

A basic natural knowledge teached in China primary school

 

[jhungary]

Cloud seeding, a form of intentional weather modification

A basic natural knowledge teached in China primary school

lol whatever you say, you can also try and make some wind to try and blow the fall out back to Vietnam while you at it.

PS hint, you cannot use ballistic missile to try cloud seeding, you need low cloud cover to make rain, not atmospheric cloud. So again, either you need to shoot the rocket IN Vietnam, or you creat a low rain cloud which affect absolutely nothing to the fall out which blowed in atmosphere. Or you may actually doom yourselves if the pre wiling wind is blowing the rain cloud into china, then you probably need to make some kind of wind machine to blow them back

 

[Fsjal]

lol whatever you say, you can also try and make some wind to try and blow the fall out back to Vietnam while you at it.

PS hint, you cannot use ballistic missile to try cloud seeding, you need low cloud cover to make rain, not atmospheric cloud. So again, either you need to shoot the rocket IN Vietnam, or you creat a low rain cloud which affect absolutely nothing to the fall out which blowed in atmosphere. Or you may actually doom yourselves if the pre wiling wind is blowing the rain cloud into china, then you probably need to make some kind of wind machine to blow them back

If ballistic missiles won't work, will cruise missiles do?

 

[BoQ77]

What are you guys discussing about?

Nuclear powered plant or what ?

Vietnam get offers from Chinese, Russian, Japanese, US ... suppliers.
Even Japanese after Fukushima accident, Vietnam worry about,
So we hope to get the safe solution under a loan from US govt

 

[KAL-EL]

When are you guys going to control your compatriot NiceGuy for his delusional outlook on security matter? He said many disturbing matter that threaten many countries.

Well my friend, if NiceGuy needs to be controlled, then some of the other extremely bellicose and belligerent nationalists around here sure as heck also need to be controlled then.

 

[faithfulguy]

IAEA, UN is US's puppet , when US say jump they say how high, When US ignore VNese possessing nuke warhead ,then IAEA, UN wont bother to lift a finger too

anyway US also cant stop VN to possess nuke warhead coz we have Russia support

Russia won't want Vietnam to have nuclear warhead.