US shoots itself in foot in Pakistan jet deal .

[vsdave2302]

They are already an enemy so get your facts right. Maybe you should tell your best friend to stop using Pakistani supply routes and stop putting forth ridiculous demands which are laughable.

When Supply route is yours and you are willing to let them use, who are we to say them to stop?

If you want that to be stopped, simply tell them to stop and get away. Hileri clinton had told you on your face that if you do not want the aid than do not take it.
Inspite of whatever PDF trolls trol here, Pakistan need US badly and very badly.

 

[Dalit]

When Supply route is yours and you are willing to let them use, who are we to say them to stop?

If you want that to be stopped, simply tell them to stop and get away. Hileri clinton had told you on your face that if you do not want the aid than do not take it.
Inspite of whatever PDF trolls trol here, Pakistan need US badly and very badly.

We did, but they keep coming back. We even shut the supply routes, but your Yankee friends threatened us after killing our soldiers at Salala. The Pak army even rejected American aid during Kayani's tenure, but the Americans felt offended. Also remember that the F-16 offer directly came from the Obama administration. It is not us who keep saying that we are important in the regional context. It is your American buddies who keep saying this over and over again. Again, get your facts right.

Even as your congress buddies reject the subsidizing of the F-16s they cannot out rightly reject the sale. Ask yourself why that is the case...

 

[vsdave2302]

We did, but they keep coming back. We even shut the supply routes, but your Yankee friends threatened us after killing our soldiers at Salala. Also remember that the F-16 offer directly came from the Obama administration. It is not us who keep saying that we are important in the regional context. It is your American buddies who keep saying this over and over again. Again, get your facts right.

If you can not withstand against their threat than it is not our fault. Be tough and ask them to get out. Show some spine.

 

[Dalit]

If you can not withstand against their threat than it is not our fault. Be tough and ask them to get out. Show some spine.

That's exactly why I said that I'm very happy with the attitude of the congress folks. I hope they don't approve the subsidizing. This will at least force the Pakistani leadership to finally accept the reality. The people of Pakistan have already accepted this reality long ago. I think this is also largely true for the American people. You need to distinguish between the peoples of both nations and their leadership.

 

[vsdave2302]

That's exactly why I said that I'm very happy with the attitude of the congress folks. I hope they don't approve the subsidizing. This will at least force the Pakistani leadership to finally accept the reality. The people of Pakistan have already accepted this reality long ago. I think this is also largely true for the American people. You need to distinguish between the peoples of both nations and their leadership.

All right.

 

[Dalit]

All right.

Not all right. Yes, sir.

 

[oFFbEAT]

You have to decide once for all....no more whitemail by USA. Only say yes if that is principled and in your national interest...otherwise just stay away and play neutral. But who decides on the behalf of your people. It seems it is done under undemocratic governmnets.

No matter how high Pakistanis like to think of themselves, they don't have the 'aukaat' to defy USA. Remember their own general(Musharraf) admitting that he joined the US led 'War On Terror' after they threatened to bomb Pakistan to stone age?? If not, see the link below.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5369198.stm

 

[Alpha Fighter]

Also you hide the Most Import person US is looking for , OBL.....

 

[volatile]

Hi just to add not to spice up .US one phone call always worked only during Military era ,It's not that Generals are cowards or anything but it's like legitimizing their personnel regime over Pakistan .Last time i checked Uncle Mushi the master of negotiator involved us in post 9/11 ,before that Zia Sb made us a muslim Ummah ,CENTO,CETO great Ayub Khan sb .If Pak remains a democratic country phone calls will have no effect ,Classical case is why we are not bothered this time ,both Military and Civil Govt is working together and as far reaching policy looking East (China and Russia)

Also you hide the Most Import person US is looking for , OBL.....

Thanks for giving us credit ,if we are doing this then ISI and Other agencies are even so powerful that all Gadgetry ,satellite ,billions of $ were in vain for over 10 years

No matter how high Pakistanis like to think of themselves, they don't have the 'aukaat' to defy USA. Remember their own general(Musharraf) admitting that he joined the US led 'War On Terror' after they threatened to bomb Pakistan to stone age?? If not, see the link below.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5369198.stm

Yes same for India as well . India cant even match Chinese in many fields regarding US no one has so called AUkat .Wait till we see most recent agreement logistics ,So Whats the Aukat of India after that ?

 

[Kompromat]

America ceased to Pakistan's ally in 1990.

 

[Zahoor Raja-Jani]

USA has massive habbit of backstabbing. It was us foolish enough to fall for it. It's time to buy Fighter Jets from Russia and China and may be some from Europe.

Sir we did the same thing many times and its a mutual understood games which are being played through proxies, Pakistan itself want to eliminate Mullah Mansoor since he was against talks on Pakistani mediations.
Pakistan wants this
Daman Pe Koi Cheent Na Khanjar Pe Koi Daagh, Tum Qatal Karo Ho Ke Karamat Karo Ho...!!!
OBL raid and now this everything with the knowledge and help of Pakistan but to keep quite few million retards in Pakistan we have to do this.

 

[SirHatesALot]

You do know India also gets $ for the war on terror...

We do? this is news to me can u post some sources for this?

 

[Jacob Martin]

Since the slimeball who calls himself THAT GUY tends to run to the mods and have posts deleted, to paraphrase:

Pakistan has played the double game of supporting/incubating Taliban/Haqqani Network/LeT/JuD while receiving money for countering them. It should be grateful that this double game lasted a dozen years and billions of dollars. But sooner or later it had to reckon with the aide being made contingent on real progress on the terror front.

The hogwash of Pakistan itself being the "victim" of terrorism does not pass muster with anyone. Each and every attack on Pakistani soil has been carried out by terrorist organizations that have been bred by ISI/Army combine as "assets". It is like a drug peddler who cries victimhood when he himself becomes addicted.

The fact that F-16s are not required for air strikes is not rocket science. These war planes are wanted for the Eastern Front. The US played along as long as it had any hope that Pakistan would indeed act against home-bred terrorists. Now that this hope no longer exists, there is no reason to indulge PAF lies.

No one owes Pakistan money for eradicating terrorists created by them. If anything, Pakistan should pay compensation for the Jihadist menace it has unleashed upon South Asia and the world at large.

 

[graphican]

Sanctions on Pakistan has less to do with Pakistan and more to do with the new World Stage america wants to see set. Regardless of motivation, USA has umpteenth time proven that they are not an ally, they are not trust worthy, and they are one big bag of Trump!

 

[PAFMAN]

Hi, Salam, Good evening Friends.

I just have one Question - what if china gives hard slap to our Sh*t Politicians and PAF ACM by saying that go and l*ck Uncle SAM'S A** and we are not going to give you any jet or defense hardware?

i think than they will learn.
i know its not possible but what if really it happens , because china is closely watching us that we are just keep begging those who doesn't even bother us.
US giving best options to India and our Defense topper has no guts to ask US - why?

AND PLEASE DO NOT SAY MONEY ISSUE HERE. PLEASE

Hi, Salam, Good evening Friends.

I just have one Question - what if china gives hard slap to our Sh*t Politicians and PAF ACM by saying that go and l*ck Uncle SAM'S A** and we are not going to give you any jet or defense hardware?

i think than they will learn.
i know its not possible but what if really it happens , because china is closely watching us that we are just keep begging those who doesn't even bother us.
US giving best options to India and our Defense topper has no guts to ask US - why?

AND PLEASE DO NOT SAY MONEY ISSUE HERE. PLEASE

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One more thing, this F16 deals is not yet finished after few days US will throw one bone to our face and will start praising yeah yeah US-PAK love bla bla - right GUYS?
because you are same also belongs to same Nation after all including me.

Please Pak Nation Kuch to maan rakh lo yaro.