US shifting alliance to Iran in the Middle East - Thoughts?

[GTR66]

Then show me 1 libyan or syrian fighter that don't spend their time screaming Allahu Akbar

They're all salafists invaders as the normal muslims don't scream Allahu Ackbar

Ghadafi was about crushing Al Qaeda in Benghazi as they are very few but you saved them.

You're still calling the beheaders in Syria freedom syrian it proves you lie for everything

And stop liying for Iraq, you have shipped thousands of tons of CW for Saddam just before the 1988 attack

Like McCain said: Jesus Christ or Oh my god is like saying Allah or Allah Akbar when taking victor or being frightened and shock. The situation in Syria is pure barbaric and the line Hague has said earlier "If Syrians do not want to take the peace conference then they will either take choices: living under the regime or the extremist". So, yes the Western community neither support both side and left them in their own but the fundings is being covered by the Gulf states.

Even if the US shipped Iraq weapons, it was during the war for defensive/offensive purpose so what's wrong with that? At least your buddy had support from Carter.

 

[bolo]

You guys should know that any countries or dictators the US support now will end up dead or toppled by them in the future.

 

[GTR66]

You guys should know that any countries or dictators the US support now will end up dead or toppled by them in the future.

I doubt there will be a dictator in the Middle East in the coming future and America's Mid East foreign policy is crumbling into bits.

Libya is still controlled by each militia who follows commanders except parts of Tripoli, the city with transitional government who won't take hold soon after the abduction of a Libyan citizen by US Navy Seals.

The choas will spread to Algeria and Tunisia according to both countries official who feared AQ linked Ansal Al Sharia trying to infiltrate politicially to gain support in both countries.

As for Egypt, turmoil had continued ever since the coup and eventually civil war will break out soon whereas all three neighbouring Algeria, Libya, Tunisia and Egypt will have their path turn into all break loose. America will stay out of this without a doubt because the example of how they cut military aid to Egypt and they have no military ties with the other neighbouring countries because their reputation were strained.

The military aids US gives is to ensure military dictatorship remains in power while the civilians is kept under control to benefit for the safety of Israel and might as well to prevent Arabs being united without any circumstance. When the Arab Spring was triggered, the people woke up and dictators were toppled and the US had no choice but to stay out if it otherwise it would alarm the civilians of the turmoil state because it's well known nearly the whole majority of the Muslims have shown hatred among American government.

 

[haman10]

okey guys cut the " u know what " ......

this thread really needs an iranian !!!

relations with us is just okey as long as they agree not to meddle , terror , put sanctions , act as an enemy ......

as thats not gonna happen , relation with usa is nothing but a dream , a dream that any american and iranian (people) have .....

us gov. supports any act against iran , doesnt matter if its even an act of terrorism ; for 35yrs the "powers" !! of the world were our #1 enemies , but we thrived and achieved no matter what others say
we dont need anyone but we love to have relations with every nation around the globe .......

p.s : i saw some BS comments on iran-iraq war , i will ignore them as they are off-topic

 

[elis]

I think you find there was no sunni-shia issue until Khomeini was bought back to iran by french intelligence and only after that did we see tensions on this issue in the muslim nations.

Brought back by you as you are the dogs of the USA to attack Iran

I think i also remember saddam wanting peace after about six months and Khomeini refusing which kept the war going for nearly another decade.

He wanted peace that's why he attacked Iran, very good.

 

[elis]

Even if the US shipped Iraq weapons, it was during the war for defensive/offensive purpose so what's wrong with that? At least your buddy had support from Carter.

Nothing wrong with the fact that you respect no conventions and gaz the iranian

You have violated thousands of conventions, it's only real arabs (your enemies) that respect all conventions.

 

[elis]

this thread really needs an iranian !!!

Don't worry i'am here to block them

 

[GTR66]

A good well anaylis the possible dividing the Northen Africa and the Middle East including the Gulf States to ease Suuni Shia tensions.

nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/29/sunday-review/how-5-countries-could-become-14.html?_r=0

 

[mahatir]

I doubt there will be a dictator in the Middle East in the coming future and America's Mid East foreign policy is crumbling into bits.

Libya is still controlled by each militia who follows commanders except parts of Tripoli, the city with transitional government who won't take hold soon after the abduction of a Libyan citizen by US Navy Seals.

The choas will spread to Algeria and Tunisia according to both countries official who feared AQ linked Ansal Al Sharia trying to infiltrate politicially to gain support in both countries.

As for Egypt, turmoil had continued ever since the coup and eventually civil war will break out soon whereas all three neighbouring Algeria, Libya, Tunisia and Egypt will have their path turn into all break loose. America will stay out of this without a doubt because the example of how they cut military aid to Egypt and they have no military ties with the other neighbouring countries because their reputation were strained.

The military aids US gives is to ensure military dictatorship remains in power while the civilians is kept under control to benefit for the safety of Israel and might as well to prevent Arabs being united without any circumstance. When the Arab Spring was triggered, the people woke up and dictators were toppled and the US had no choice but to stay out if it otherwise it would alarm the civilians of the turmoil state because it's well known nearly the whole majority of the Muslims have shown hatred among American government.

There will never be a civil war in Egypt , they even reduced the curfew timing and it will be lifted mid next month. Algeria to will never face any problem after they eliminated the islamists goups 16 years ago . Both Algeria and Egypt have strong central governments and they do not have various ethnic and religious groups such as in Syria and Iraq.

If you look close to middle east countries that significant shia or sunni minorities would tend to face a bloody civil war or continued political violence .

Syria civil war is the result of Shia-Sunni hatred , the Shia and Sunnis hate each other more than their hatred towards the Jews , it is a conflict that is been around for over 1000 years now .

Syria will become somalia of the middle east and will continue down the path of complete destruction and disintegration. The kurds have already set up their autonomous region in the north , the Sunnis have taken over most of northern and southern syria while the alawite regime has carved out a belt linking damascus with the alawite homeland through homs province .

The American/Russian chemical agreement is only the start of a wider agreement that will involve partition of Syria into 3 autonomous provinces similar to the dayton agreement that divided bosnia into 2 regions .

This is the best scenario for Israel , they do not want a unified Syria , but instead a partitioned one where the main three ethnic groups will focus on each other rather than targeting israel , it might even involved some of these ethnic groups allying themselves with israel to ensure their own survival .

 

[elis]

A good well anaylis the possible dividing the Northen Africa and the Middle East including the Gulf States to ease Suuni Shia tensions.

That don't exist before your Al Qaeda dogs came and that will still exist after the possible divisions

BTW we should remap the USA to ease the world security

 

[BATMAN]

Have no illusion, all Islamic sects. are engineered in UK...

 

[GTR66]

That don't exist before your Al Qaeda dogs came and that will still exist after the possible divisions

BTW we should remap the USA to ease the world security

Our Al Qaeda dogs? Hmm, can't remember the list of commanders US killed in Yemen and Afghanistan-Pakistan. That was successfull yet fools like you think US is supporting Al Qaeda.

 

[elis]

Our Al Qaeda dogs? Hmm, can't remember the list of commanders US killed in Yemen and Afghanistan-Pakistan. That was successfull yet fools like you think US is supporting Al Qaeda.

Only 7 ISAF soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan between 2001 & 2003. It proves that Al Qaeda who dominated Afghanistan are not your enemies.

And we know very well who you call terrorists and freedom fighters, Al Qaeda are freedom fighters and the people really fighting you are terrorists.

We also know that Ben Laden was a freedom fighter for 20 years until 1996 where you suddenly declare that you don't want to arm Al Qaeda in Afghanistan anymore.

Probably because your agenda against Iraq & Afghanistan was about to be ready

 

[GTR66]

Only 7 ISAF soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan between 2001 & 2003. It proves that Al Qaeda who dominated Afghanistan are not your enemies.

And we know very well who you call terrorists and freedom fighters, Al Qaeda are freedom fighters and the people really fighting you are terrorists.

We also know that Ben Laden was a freedom fighter for 20 years until 1996 where you suddenly declare that you don't want to arm Al Qaeda in Afghanistan anymore.

Probably because your agenda against Iraq & Afghanistan was about to be ready

Only 7 ISAF soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan between 2001 & 2003. It proves that Al Qaeda who dominated Afghanistan are not your enemies.

And we know very well who you call terrorists and freedom fighters, Al Qaeda are freedom fighters and the people really fighting you are terrorists.

We also know that Ben Laden was a freedom fighter for 20 years until 1996 where you suddenly declare that you don't want to arm Al Qaeda in Afghanistan anymore.

Probably because your agenda against Iraq & Afghanistan was about to be ready

I clearly don't understand this, did you read the whole post of mine or not? I'll repeat to sum it up for you.

Iran had asked the US to drive Taliban away when they had a border dispute after killing 9 diplomants and they accepted it then the post Afghan government turned to be loyal to Iran, the heartland for Shiites. Happy or not?

The same scenario had been made in Iraq when Iran provided the US with shipments and trainings to enter Iraq for easy access because Jordan, Syria and Turkey refused and opposed the intervention. If it weren't for the border access in Iran then US would not have invaded Iraq.

Now, tell me. The Shiites is asking the US for an urgent delivery on drones then they accepted it because extremist is making advanced gains in Western Iraq. Are you saying US is giving drones to Iraq at the same time supporting Al Qaeda Iraq? Don't forget who help build the Sahwat movement. Mate, you're delusional.

 

[elis]

Iran had asked the US to drive Taliban away

I've stopped reading after that

The talibans as Al Qaeda in general are your agents oppressing everybody so it can give you a reason to invade countries or to pretend to defend them disguised as freedom fighters.

The talibans have never fought you as only 7 ISAF soldiers have been killed between 2001 & 2003.

You always say Iran is with Israel/USA when actually they are under your savage embargo and you create Al Qaeda who hate them

You also say that the invasion of Iraq was Iran shaking hands with the USA to do that. In reality it's from wahabit countries or muslim brother countries that are very hostile against Iran that Iraq was invaded by USA: Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, NATO Turkey