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US senate votes to override Obama veto of 9/11 bill

Isn't this a threat to America's sovereign immunity? Now other countries can sue America??

It would certainly justify others suing America and they may win but in actual practice nobody would be able to force america to pay anything not only because america is a world super power but because America contributes a lot to other countries and freezing American assets would only make enemies but not only that but America could also use it's veto in the U.N for any "drastic" actions.
 
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OBL was half Yemeni and half Syrian. The only reason why he even received Saudi Arabian nationality was due to his billionaire father's connections to the House of Saud and construction firm. Not to mention the fact that OBL became stateless back in 1994 as his Saudi Arabian nationality was annulled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

FBI and CIA already cleared KSA and concluded that there is no single evidence of Saudi Arabian involvement.


As for the 15 Saudi Arabian hijackers, most of Yemeni origin, so what? KSA had nothing to do with them. Not anymore than the US has anything to do with the 100's of American nationals who have joined ISIS, Al-Nusra and other groups in the Muslim world.

Anyway this law is not aimed at KSA nor will the victims of 9/11 receive a single penny.

In fact I believe that half of the world (almost) is entitled to sue the US for trillions due to their destruction of several countries from Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.



Talk about desperation.





Anyway I do not care about the 9/11 the slightest. Yes, it was unfortunate but the US has committed 1000's upon 1000's of such 9/11's that receive no media exposure. In fact, if karma is the criteria, you deserve 1 million more of such incidents. Not even that number would make up for all the innocents that you have killed in the past 100 years across the world. ISIS, Al-Qaeda, let alone KSA, are angels in comparison. Anyway your time will come like that of everyone else. I would definitely support China and Russia against you in case of war and I hope that KSA will be on that side of the coin in the future, House of Saud or no House of Saud.

In fact I believe that the world and the Arab world should start arming African-Americas and Latinos who will become a majority in a few generations. Especially since 10% of all Latinos are of Arab origin.



Yes, and when the time of the House of Saud has expired, the Saudi Arabian public should sue the US for its support of that dynasty. As for those American companies, they should first learn how to pay their taxes abroad and stop cheating people.

Your elites have harmed the wold more than anyone else in the past many decades.


never said the U.S hands were clean now do I??

I could make a list of the Islamic conquests but I won't bother because that's history.

everyone knows the U.S has been the world police since 1945 protecting the world from communists
 
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never said the U.S hands were clean now do I??

I could make a list of the Islamic conquests but I won't bother because that's history.

everyone knows the U.S has been the world police since 1945 protecting the world from communists

I never understood U.S paranoia about communism though . I mean they prefer dictatorships over communists .
 
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never said the U.S hands were clean now do I??

I could make a list of the Islamic conquests but I won't bother because that's history.

everyone knows the U.S has been the world police since 1945 protecting the world from communists

9/11 is likewise history. 15 year old history. How many people have the American elite killed since then in Iraq, Afghanistan alone? Let alone elsewhere? How much destruction and instability has US policies caused in the world?

You have not protected anyone from anything but purely been occupied about protecting your interests and ensuring your hegemony. A hegemony that is going to end sooner rather than later.

Anyway you could not counter any of my facts as I expected nor has the US (read FBI, CIA, US courts) been able to prove that KSA (as in government) were behind 9/11.

I think we both know that if that was the case, KSA would likely have been attacked by you guys shortly after 9/11.

You know what, those victims should sue their own government for incompetency. How could 19, half of them teenagers, cause the most deadly foreign attack on US soil in American history? On targets such as the Pentagon and WTC and if not for the incompetency of 4-5 hijackers, most likely, the White House as well? Not even the mythical Soviets harmed you this much directly. I think this is what is hurting your pride.

Lastly is the House of Saud not your oldest allies outside of the UK and France? Have you not been supporting them for well over 70 years. I think so.

Don't you think that the Saudi Arabian public, once the House of Saud are gone, should sue the US due to this support?

No wonder that you are the most disliked country in the world. You should thank your elite for this.

Anyway if this law becomes reality, expect 100's of law suits against your country from the world community. Let us see who will lose here. The world or the US.

Look, I have nothing against Americans as a people, using that logic I would have something against 3.5 million Arab-Americans, but I cannot respect the policies of your elite. Nor have I claimed that the House of Saud are perfect, far from it, but at least the Saudi Arabian public is innocent of their actions by virtue of not having elected them unlike your regimes. Lastly, neither is KSA suing other countries based on lies.

Anyway if you continue your anti-KSA policies, expect KSA and the GCC (your main military costumers, key partners in the war on terrorism and key investors) to change their allegiance to China and Russia. Your elites would not want that to happen but I can ASSURE you that China and Russia would LOVE this to occur. Your very strategic bases in the region would be gone as well.

We will survive without you as we have always done. Before anything was called the US, we Arabs (more precisely people from modern-day KSA) created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history. More than any other ethnic group in history. Our empires stretched from Southern France to the Western border of modern-day India. However those empires like all other empires ended and so will your current "empire". Not to mention that civilization itself began in the Arab world which was the center of the world for millennia.

If this is how you treat your long-standing allies and partners then you should not expect us to respect you. As if the fatal invasion of Iraq and the killing of our brothers and sisters there was not enough or your unforgivable and biased blind support for Israel. Or the support of regimes in the Arab world.

Anyway in case you are dreaming of attacking KSA, know one thing. We were never a Western colony nor has any foreigner ever conquered our entire territory. Only Japan and Mongolia can claim this honor. Nor will an attack on the Holy Land be seen lightly by the 1.6 billion Muslims. If you think that Iraq was bad, expect something from another universe once you are foolish enough to attack KSA. Also as you know, people in KSA, would not be afraid to sacrifice their lives in case of an occupation. On a scale seen nowhere else. Do not forget that around 2000 Saudi Arabian volunteers in Iraq were your greatest advisories in Iraq. We have testimonies from several American soldiers as a confirmation. As far as I am aware of they did good fighting you as you were illegal occupiers.
 
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It would certainly justify others suing America and they may win but in actual practice nobody would be able to force america to pay anything not only because america is a world super power but because America contributes a lot to other countries and freezing American assets would only make enemies but not only that but America could also use it's veto in the U.N for any "drastic" actions.

They could seize American assets in their country like say if United plane landed the Republic of Wadiya could seize it.

I never understood U.S paranoia about communism though . I mean they prefer dictatorships over communists .

Better dead than red, that's what I say.
 
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They could seize American assets in their country like say if United plane landed the Republic of Wadiya could seize it.

The only countries that could do that would be China or Russia, any other and they would get stomped into oblivion.

never said the U.S hands were clean now do I??

I could make a list of the Islamic conquests but I won't bother because that's history.

everyone knows the U.S has been the world police since 1945 protecting the world from communists

(o_O) What? "protecting the world" Listening to more propaganda are we?


"Do The Math: Global War On Terror Has Killed 4 Million Muslims Or More
A recent study suggests the “War on Terror” has had two million victims, but reporter Nafeez Ahmed claims this may be only a fraction of the total dead from Western wars."

http://www.mintpressnews.com/do-the...-has-killed-4-million-muslims-or-more/208225/

"US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has...-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

Study: U.S. regime has killed 20-30 million people since World War Two
https://www.sott.net/article/273517...lled-20-30-million-people-since-World-War-Two





Ahhhhh I think your attitude is clearly described

“A crude age. Peace is stabilized with cannon and bombers, humanity with concentration camps. We're living in a time when all standards are turned upside-down, Kern. Today the aggressor is the shepherd of peace, and the beaten and hunted are the troublemakers of the world. What's more, there are whole races who believe it!”
Erich Maria Remarque, Flotsam: A Novel of World War II




Please keep in mind that I don't hate America nor you and they are good soldiers and people, I was born in America and raised in America and I love it's values but I hate it's foreign policy.

(now for something more positive)




 
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The only countries that could do that would be China or Russia, any other and they would get stomped into oblivion.



(o_O) What? "protecting the world" Listening to more propaganda are we?


"Do The Math: Global War On Terror Has Killed 4 Million Muslims Or More
A recent study suggests the “War on Terror” has had two million victims, but reporter Nafeez Ahmed claims this may be only a fraction of the total dead from Western wars."

http://www.mintpressnews.com/do-the...-has-killed-4-million-muslims-or-more/208225/

"US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has...-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

Study: U.S. regime has killed 20-30 million people since World War Two
https://www.sott.net/article/273517...lled-20-30-million-people-since-World-War-Two





Ahhhhh I think your attitude is clearly described

“A crude age. Peace is stabilized with cannon and bombers, humanity with concentration camps. We're living in a time when all standards are turned upside-down, Kern. Today the aggressor is the shepherd of peace, and the beaten and hunted are the troublemakers of the world. What's more, there are whole races who believe it!”
Erich Maria Remarque, Flotsam: A Novel of World War II




Please keep in mind that I don't hate America nor you and they are good soldiers and people, I was born in America and raised in America and I love it's values but I hate it's foreign policy.

(now for something more positive)






:rofl:

I preferred those guys though:

 
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good luck suing foreign governments. Just the jurisdictional issues will take years. And then there is this pesky matter of proof.

We don't have money to treat the 1st responders in NYC adequately. Let's see what contingency ambulance chaser will take on these cases if any.
 
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Let's say Saudi Arabia will sell the oil in the Chinese currency instead of the US dollar, how much damage could that bring to the US economy?
I think it's way greater than nuking NYC.
If the US really wants to harm Saudi Arabia, then it underestimates the ramifications of such a stupid action.

I hope the bill becomes a law so that the families who lost their beloved ones in many American drone strikes in Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and Syria will be able to sue the US.
 
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Let's say Saudi Arabia will sell the oil in the Chinese currency instead of the US dollar, how much damage could that bring to the US economy?

I don't think you should entertain a thought like that. They will destroy Saudi Arabia if there was ever a hint of that happening.
 
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does anyone know why this happened and why now they couldn't even wait till the elections ?
 
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Some random act is not responsibility of Masses , specially done by a questionable entity that never formally accepted any responsibility


If anyone is suing anyone
  • Vietnam can sue bomb making companies in USA
  • North Koreans can sue for Korean wars
  • Afghans can sue for Afghanistan wars
  • Syria is still suffring waiting for sueing
  • Libya has to sue
  • Iraq has to sue twice (2 wars) , 2 generations ruined whole country not mere few people
Not sure what is Egypt stance on Kashmir but we won't leave Saudia alone in this diffcult time
 
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good luck suing foreign governments. Just the jurisdictional issues will take years. And then there is this pesky matter of proof.

We don't have money to treat the 1st responders in NYC adequately. Let's see what contingency ambulance chaser will take on these cases if any.
They will simply seize their assets which can used to pay the litigant.
 
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