US Sec Def to visit Pakistan in March

[Ace of Spades]

It will keep revolving around china; unless Pakistan compromise on CPEC, nothing will come out positive for Pakistan in these or any upcoming talks.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

And....
blocked f16
Blocked zulus

We have freed america from afghanistan.

Meeting will lead to nothing

You see this time relation is very state forward. They are giving one thing and we are giving one thing. I don't think so you would get those goddies. And that's fine. We would work hard to buy others or make one ourselves. Jf17 is just fine but only reason we need other is to get a mental superiority over our enemy.
They would help you in fatf. If next phase of afghan process proceed.
And also improves trade etc. Maybe invest a little. Trump has not given a dime free to any country except isreal. Don't except it.
Trump would sell you everything when you put money in his hand. Or maybe pentagon can convince him to subcidise the jets to Pakistan but very difficult.
Good we are working with the Americans at almost no cost to them. Why? Because our goals are same. Peaceful Afghanistan. Pakistan also want a friendly government in kabul. And America has agreed to that somewhat. So that's that.

 

[fatman17]

US Sect of Defense Mark Esper is to LIKELY visit Pakistan in the 3rd Week of March, top govt sources confirm. Visit will be a follow up of US President Trump and Pak PM Khan's talks at Davos, to focus on US Pak security cooperation, Earlier US Sect Trade was also in Pak.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1236911704287727616

if there is nothing to discuss or offer, then why visit. SecDef visits to Pakistan are rare.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

What is there to follow up? You wanted Pakistan to broker a peace settlement between the US and Taliban, we have done it. Now its your job to put a leash on your lap dog Ghani in Afghanistan and making sure he along with his Indian buddies do not act as a spoiler.

You are really naive. You are not alone. May other Pakistanis are, Infact majority are. How you people suddenly starts celebrating and admiring the taliban forgetting that we have eliminated our very own version of the taliban. Anyways we need taliban in Afghanistan to stop Indian influence and yes there is nothing wrong in that. But don't admire those barbarians.
2nd now on 10th the prisnor would relase. After that a process in Norway would start where afghans would talk. The result of that would decide the future. Ashraf ghani was given blessing till that day to become pm.
America stayed quite and wished him, pm Imran wished him. That are clear signs.
Now we have persuaded America to give taliban some role and do agreement with them. Now we are in driver seat.
In other words this is what we wanted to run things in Afghanistan. And so now we do it. The transition is long and messy. Afghanistan is on a brink it civil war. Trump wanted not even to waste 1 billion dollar there. Which is not even a penut for him...
And now is the real role .
We have to gather all factions of taliban, arrange them in Norway, force them to become a little relaxed. Join others. Etc.
Ashraf ghani would create problems as long as you care for him. Ignore him.
Better work for what would be the new setup. When that is decided the talibs can go and capture kabul in a day with American support.

The US wants to see India take on China. It is only possible when Pakistan is weak enough to not distract India. It simply doesnt serve US interests to see a strong pakistan. All developments should be seen from this lens. US wont supply us anything that might give us an edge over India. Period.

Now, the earlier we write off these ordered items from our plans and go for alternatives the better. The US would simply keep us engaged by showing carrots and would never officially refuse these ordered articles just simply because the delay in procurement on our side is also advantage India which sits perfect with the US plans.

That is no going to happen. Americans know this now. America now only want India as a big market. They wnat India to buy from every weapon to even milk and meat.
Besides America has done enough damage to China with crona virus, propaganda and sanctions.

Taliban have not respected the cease fire the way US had hoped. Pakistan’s help could help ride the violence down. Even Trump May visit Pakistan in the next few months.

You don't get it do what the taliban and American officials saying again and again. The agreement does not mention any cease fire. Only reduction in violence.
The taliban leader has said in several news outlets that we would attack if provoked.
They even said that we now after agreement do not attack or kill foreigners.
Now Americans can walk free in Afghanistan rather then these afghan army or police or government.
Both are killing ecah other which is fine by Afghanistan standards. This is how reduction is violence looks Like in Afghanistan.

 

[Raider 21]

You are really naive. You are not alone. May other Pakistanis are, Infact majority are. How you people suddenly starts celebrating and admiring the taliban forgetting that we have eliminated our very own version of the taliban. Anyways we need taliban in Afghanistan to stop Indian influence and yes there is nothing wrong in that. But don't admire those barbarians.
2nd now on 10th the prisnor would relase. After that a process in Norway would start where afghans would talk. The result of that would decide the future. Ashraf ghani was given blessing till that day to become pm.
America stayed quite and wished him, pm Imran wished him. That are clear signs.
Now we have persuaded America to give taliban some role and do agreement with them. Now we are in driver seat.
In other words this is what we wanted to run things in Afghanistan. And so now we do it. The transition is long and messy. Afghanistan is on a brink it civil war. Trump wanted not even to waste 1 billion dollar there. Which is not even a penut for him...
And now is the real role .
We have to gather all factions of taliban, arrange them in Norway, force them to become a little relaxed. Join others. Etc.
Ashraf ghani would create problems as long as you care for him. Ignore him.
Better work for what would be the new setup. When that is decided the talibs can go and capture kabul in a day with American support.


That is no going to happen. Americans know this now. America now only want India as a big market. They wnat India to buy from every weapon to even milk and meat.
Besides America has done enough damage to China with crona virus, propaganda and sanctions.


You don't get it do what the taliban and American officials saying again and again. The agreement does not mention any cease fire. Only reduction in violence.
The taliban leader has said in several news outlets that we would attack if provoked.
They even said that we now after agreement do not attack or kill foreigners.
Now Americans can walk free in Afghanistan rather then these afghan army or police or government.
Both are killing ecah other which is fine by Afghanistan standards. This is how reduction is violence looks Like in Afghanistan.

Coronavirus. Man you're hilarious.....

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Coronavirus. Man you're hilarious.....

It is not permanent. But it has caused a lot of damage to their momento. Ofcourse they have the ability to recover.

 

[Khanivore]

The US wants to see India take on China. It is only possible when Pakistan is weak enough to not distract India. It simply doesnt serve US interests to see a strong pakistan. All developments should be seen from this lens. US wont supply us anything that might give us an edge over India. Period.

And India is playing US; fooling them to think India will go up against China, but we need to understand one important fact: India does not have the balls to go against China. Period.

However, with the newly acquired toys from US and Europe, they'll gladly attempt to take Azad Kashmir to cut off Pakistan from CPEC with the blessings of US and Europe. But to go against China? Nope. I highly doubt it and strongly believe the Indians are just buying time and chance to arm up and acquire Western tech. as much as possible by using the "I'm your ally against China" carrot approach.

 

[mingle]

if there is nothing to discuss or offer, then why visit. SecDef visits to Pakistan are rare.

Good point @fatman17 I believe it's follow up of Saudi visit. He was in Afghanistan two weeks ago. He is busy man don't have time for courtesy visits.if he is coming direct from US that means alot 15 hr ride non stop is not without purpose.

Coronavirus. Man you're hilarious.....

May meet Dr Amir liaqat for vaccination made with onions

 

[Dark1]

Will he sanctioned us F-16 (even used)
Or embargoed super cobras?

No blockage on f16s for Pakistan, only free ka maal has been stopped.
They want you to start paying instead of relying on handouts.

 

[mingle]

And India is playing US; fooling them to think India will go up against China, but we need to understand one important fact: India does not have the balls to go against China. Period.

However, with the newly acquired toys from US and Europe, they'll gladly attempt to take Azad Kashmir to cut off Pakistan from CPEC with the blessings of US and Europe. But to go against China? Nope. I highly doubt it and strongly believe the Indians are just buying time and chance to arm up and acquire Western tech. as much as possible by using the "I'm your ally against China" carrot approach.

It's not easy for india LOC is there since 1948. Esper is coming with purpose if it's just chit chat he can do it on phone in person means business nothing more nothing less. I hope his visit will be fruitful for Pak

 

[Clutch]

US Sect of Defense Mark Esper is to LIKELY visit Pakistan in the 3rd Week of March, top govt sources confirm. Visit will be a follow up of US President Trump and Pak PM Khan's talks at Davos, to focus on US Pak security cooperation, Earlier US Sect Trade was also in Pak.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1236911704287727616

The Americans are coming to Islamabad to ask Pakistan to do less... Vis-a-vis Indian occupation of Kashmir and Indian RSS Hindutvaism... and let Modi save face

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[mingle]

The Americans are coming to Islamabad to ask Pakistan to do less... Vis-a-vis Indian occupation of Kashmir and Indian RSS Hindutvaism... and let Modi save face

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He is here to get corona virus vaccine also gona bring corona beer for everyone.

 

[Dark1]

The Americans are coming to Islamabad to ask Pakistan to do less... Vis-a-vis Indian occupation of Kashmir and Indian RSS Hindutvaism... and let Modi save face

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They give a rat's as. about India or Pakistan finishing each other off, he cares about the American troops leaving Afghanistan and their departure not creating a blowback in the future.
The Taliban and their advisers are being stupid . If they really want the Americans gone, just promise them everything and once they leave , do what comes naturally to you.
I feel maybe the interested parties really dont want the Americans to leave. Too lucrative to have them here. Once they leave, leverage becomes negligible.

 

[Adonis]

The Americans are coming to Islamabad to 1. ask Pakistan to do less... Vis-a-vis Indian occupation of Kashmir and Indian RSS Hindutvaism... and let Modi save face
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Seriously?? To do less?... What has Pakistan done so far.....other than crying like a child on the street, to which, no passer-by is paying heed to. Modi already has a saved face in front of his vote bank... Kashmir, than CAA/NRC etc . Next move will be control on population (issue with rapid rise of Muslim population in India), than reservation etc etc.

 

[Clutch]

Seriously?? To do less?... What has Pakistan done so far.....other than crying like a child on the street, to which, no passer-by is paying heed to. Modi already has a saved face in front of his vote bank... Kashmir, than CAA/NRC etc . Next move will be control on population (issue with rapid rise of Muslim population in India), than reservation etc etc.

Exactly... Even do less than what it's done so far... Do as little as Nawaz Sharif or Zardari less...