Don't bother with him Hyperion, he's a hypocrite who doesn't like to see the mirror even when shown repeatedly.
Thankyou for the character certificate. Next time, do mention where you find fault with any fact that I mention in any of my posts.
Dude, do you believe in Law? Is Pakistan a signatory to NPT? No. Did we break any sort of laws? No. Can anyone do anything about it? No.
After Crimea, don't you think the strategic center of gravity has shifted away from the US of A? Yes. Do you think we give a hoot? No. Does it matter if India complains from rooftops about us? No. Rest of the world is too busy trying to stay sane.
By the way, you were the first in breaking the cardinal rules of proliferation on the subcontinent. The day you decided to divert civilian fissile material to weapons program. Not us. Furthermore, don't you think we are capable of doing the exact same thing? Yes. Don't forget all that fissile material from KANUP. It has been operational for decades.
I am aware that Pakistan is not a signatory to NPT.
However two simple questions are relevant here:
1. Did Pakistan export nuclear designs and material to countries that had signed the NPT?
2. If so..Why
then did Pakistan export nuclear designs and material to countries
clandestinely.
The answer is obvious then.
On the other hand - has India sold any nuclear technology/design/material on the black market?
Yes/No would suffice here.
Are you aware that while US was literally bulldozing the rest of the world to accept the exception to the NPT ie India, the only reason half the countries accepted it, despite the US pressure was because India's spotless record in nuclear proliferation was emphasized again and again.
When I say nuclear proliferation - I imply India being a conduit for other nations to acquire nuclear technology.
Even then it was a hard bargain, with many countries putting up a strenuous fight.
Are you aware that NSG works only on consensus? If even one country had objected, the entire deal is torpedoed. Again and again, our clean proliferation record was what salvaged it. And again and again, Pakistan was shown to the world as an example of contrast to India's actions.
Lastly, no country besides the US can offer Pakistan a nuclear deal. As always, most members of this forum are children without knowledge who know nothing but 'crush the kafirs' - and say 'we want a nuclear deal from China' or 'yay! we got a nuclear deal from China'.
A nuclear deal is one in which the rest of the world removes sanctions on the country and allows the country to take part in the global nuclear trade. To get that, you need a clean exemption from the NSG. Only the US has the wherewithal to push through that, and even then only when other members are convinced about your
sincerity towards the goal.
Do you think China or even Russia can get that done? No, not even remotely close.
Secondly, what majority of Pakistani members here consider to be a 'nuclear deal' with China is actually nothing but sale of reactors from China. Its exactly the same as how India purchased reactors from Russia even before the nuclear deal. Both India and Pakistan purchase reactors from Russia/China under 'Grand father clauses'. Not even close to what the Nuclear deal actually means in the current context.
Now that you know the background answer me this:
1. Is US likely to push as vociferously for Pakistan as it did for India to get an NSG exemption
2. Are the rest of the countries - those who dont accept US diktats but look at your own proliferation record going to accept Pakistan and say 'oh, okay, you sold designs earlier to North Korea and Iran and Libya, but hey, its all good, you wont do it now'.
Please tell me what is likely.
Though, I do enjoy arguing with him!
Quite the same. In my opinion, there are more and more Pakistani members who are better read and aware than the mullah types that were predominant earlier. Quality of discussion is improving.
