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US says its Special Forces are stationed in India, Delhi denies
Saturday, March 03, 2012 Anonymous


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Washington/New Delhi: US special forces are based in India and four other South Asian countries, a Pentagon commander has said. India quickly denied hosting American troops on its soil.

The US and India are working together to contain Pakistan-based 'terrorist' group Lashkar-e-Toiba, blamed for the 2008 Mumbai attack, US Pacific Commander Admiral Robert Willard told a Congressional hearing Thursday.

The teams were deployed to help India in counter-terrorism, in particular in the maritime domain, Willard said.

"We have currently special forces assist teams - Pacific assist teams is the term - laid down in Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, the Maldives as well as India," Willard said.

"We are working very closely with India with regard to their counter-terrorism capabilities and in particular on the maritime domain but also government to government, not necessarily department of defence but other agencies assisting them in terms of their internal counter-terror and counterinsurgency challenges."

The Indian government challenged the statement.

The defence ministry said Willard's claim that US special teams were based in India was "factually incorrect".

"The report is factually incorrect in so far as the reference to India is concerned," a defence ministry spokesperson said in New Delhi.

"US special forces teams have never been stationed in India in the past, nor are such teams stationed in the country presently," he said.

Admiral Willard said Lashkar-e-Taiba was a "very dangerous organization... so it is a very important threat, and we're working very closely with the nations in the region to help contain it".

The group was "responsible for many attacks in India, including the horrific attacks into Mumbai" of November 2008 that left 166 Indians and foreigners dead.

He said the Lashkar-e-Toiba was headquartered in Pakistan, affiliated with al Qaeda "and contributes to terrorist operations in Afghanistan and aspires to operate against Asia, Europe and North America".

Responding to Congressman Joe Wilson, Willard said Pacific Command's Indian Engagement Initiative resourced and hosted Mumbai counter terrorist specialists for training exercises and exchanges throughout the US.

Together with capacity-building activities with South Asian partners this was mainly focused on containing LeT and contributing to counter-terrorism self-sufficiency of the sub-region's militaries, Willard said.

Anchored by India and containing major sea line of communication for the transport of energy and other commerce to Asia and the America from the Middle East and Europe, South Asia security partnerships were increasingly vital to Pacific Command's mission, he said.

US says its Special Forces are stationed in India, Delhi denies ~ Terminal X
 
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BBC News - Pentagon commander says US special forces in India

US special forces are present in five South Asian countries, including India, a top Pentagon commander has revealed.

US Pacific Commander Admiral Robert Willard said the teams were deployed to help India with their counter-terrorism co-operation.

The US and India were working together to contain Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistan-based militant group blamed for the 2008 Mumbai attacks, he said.

The US embassy in Delhi clarified that the troops were not stationed in India.

A spokesman told the BBC that there were "no special forces stationed in India", as media reports had suggested. :coffee:

The embassy and India's ministry of defence said a unit from the US 25th infantry division was in India to hold an exercise with Indian forces.
 
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Why is this news? American SpecOps are operating in every country. Training or carrying out ops. It is quite an opportunity to have them around as trainers. Larning the most modern tactics and getting a feel for how American Troops think and why they think in that way. All-around best soldiers.
 
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I think the media is putting the term 'special forces' in an entirely convoluted way.

US special forces assist India to thwart counter-terror threats - The Times of India

Having US intelligence personnel assist Indian counterparts in finding terrorists is one thing and having gun-totting 'Special Forces' ( in the conventional sense of the phrase) is entirely another thing.

I'm sure if any such US personnel are in India, they are here only to assist us in our fight against terrorism and are here with the permission and knowledge of my government.

In India, we have no cvonfusion among our policy circles regarding the definition of the Good terrorist and the bad terrorist.

For both India and the US, the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.

When it comes to terrorism, Indian and American concerns pretty much converge.

It is a different thing from the US-Pak equation on terrorism.
 
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March 3, 2012: The United States admiral when disclosing that U.S. special forces teams are stationed in India said they are 'not necessarily DOD [Department of Defense]' but other agencies. These are CIA teams -- whose presence India's ministries of defence and external affairs spokespersons would not know about and hence are denying -- with the mission of snatching or neutralizing India's nuclear warheads, as similar CIA teams successfully did in Pakistan. Unless India's nuclear forces trigger India's nuclear warheads emplaced in New Delhi, Washington and New York without further delay, the result will be worse than in Pakistan because India's RAW and other forces work for the CIA.

February 29, 2012: "[Agenzia Giornalistica Italia, AGI.it, February 28, 2012:] Rome - President Napolitano "salutes and gives his full support to the two Italian Navy soldiers" detained in Kochi, India. That's what Italian Foreign Affairs minister Giulio Terzi di Sant'Agata told the two Italian soldiers, Massimiliano Latorre and Salvatore Girone as he met them in Kochi, a statement published on the website of the Italian presidency reads, adding that the FM also expressed the Head of State's wish, on behalf of the entire country, for a quick and adequate solution, compliantly with the jurisdiction regulating these events in international waters. President Napolitano, the statement reads, also expressed, in a letter, his close support to the relatives of the two Navy soldiers."

February 28, 2012: "[Agenzia Giornalistica Italia, AGI.it, February 28, 2012:] India: Terzi expresses italy's solidarity with its sailors: During his official visit to India, Italy's Foreign minister, Giulio Terzi, will go to Kochi. There he will meet the two Italian Mariners detained for the killing of two fishermen. Terzi stated "My intention is to see our two valiant mariners. I will extend the regards of the president of the republic, the premier and all of the government colleagues, in order to express the concern of the Italian people toward them".

So Italy's Foreign Minister is expressing solidarity with these killers of Indians and extending to him the regards of the president of the republic, the premier and all of the government colleagues and of the Italian people. He stated this intention before he came. Why is this minister of an enemy country being received in India? Why did Indian minister Anand Sharma meet with him and talk business with him? Why did India's foreign minister meet with him and pose for a photograph smiling with this enemy of India? Because Indian government ministers are themselves servants of India's enemies and keeping the killers in V.I.P. lodgings. The light machine guns that were used in the killings had binocular sights and the killers killed them with head-shots from a distance of 100 meters. It would have been clear to them that they were not armed. The killers' entire government and people applaud the killers and so does the Indian government along with the media which call the killings a "row", not murders, trivializing the killings and referring to "hapless fishermen" and "poor fishermen" -- though it was Italy as a whole shooting India as a whole and a "row" can only be between equals, not between Italian masters and their Indian servants -- and putting the killers at the same level as the victims -- in fact, higher, much higher than the victims, with all the V.I.P. treatment being given to them -- and report a carnival-like atmosphere with sight-seers thronging the killer ship. As I have said, if there is life in Indians, it is the life characteristic of a malignant virus that needs to be destroyed as soon as possible. This can change only with the nuclear destruction of New Delhi.

"[Times of India, February 28, 2012] Italy assures easing of business visa to Indians: India and Italy on Tuesday discussed easing of the business visa regime, with Rome stating it has already started working towards streamlining the process. //The issue of putting in place an effective visa regime for businessmen and professionals was raised during a meeting between commerce and industry minister Anand Sharma and Italian foreign minister Giulio Terzi here." But neither Indian businessmen nor professionals should be allowed to travel to an enemy country. Nor should the Italian minister be allowed to meet the murderers to express solidarity with them in their crime.

February 25, 2012: "Chief Minister Oommen Chandy said the government would make all efforts to ensure that families of the two Indian fishermen get the maximum compensation." So they are going to let the Italians go with a monetary compensation to the fishermen's families; they are not going to try them for murder. This is what they have meant by an "amicable settlement" all along. They showed their hand as soon as I 'gave up' on Indians with my paragraph from August 8, 2009 below.

On June 15, 2010 I wrote: "The life of a nation includes and can be defined by the life of a leader whose psyche and genes they come to share. By cutting off the life of the Indian who is the life and light of India from the Indian people, putting in place long time agents of British intelligence and the C.I.A. such as the Nehru family and Vajpayee instead, C.I.A.-RAW have ensured the decay and death of the Indian nation. The nuclear destruction of New Delhi [see my blog 'Nuclear Supremacy For India Over U.S.'] can change this situation and bring India back to life."

February 24, 2012: After a meeting with Indian officials in New Delhi today, the visiting Italian minister said "We hope the incident is behind us". Now it is for the people of Kerala and the rest of India to do justice by doing what I have said below they must do to get justice. They must attack the luxury guest house where the murderers are and immediately kill them.

In the Grover murder case in which the victim was cut up into over 300 pieces and eaten, I said "The cover up of the crimes in the case and the light sentences and VIP treatment given to the perpetrators are due to India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) through which Israel has established profound control over the Indian government described in my blog". RAW is also responsible for the cover up in this case of the Italian ship which was trafficking Indian children to Israel to be used as food, with their skins used to make shoes and handbags (RAWsTraffickingOfIndianChildrenDOTblogspotDOTcom ).

I have said: "Indians as a rule are inferior Indian niggers unfit to talk about strategic matters, especially if it involves the White Master in any way, which it always does. That is why in his 'Mein Kampf' Adolf Hitler said "As for India, I would rather see India under the British than under any one else". It is not just that a handful of the British from half way around the world ruled India for centuries; a lot of other people from various countries did that for a thousand years before that.

A modern day Babar will start each day by killing a million Indians before breakfast every morning, though some think three million will be better (this number can be herded into fairly small extermination circles and then a neutron bomb exploded over them).

I am an Indian, but as far above the other Indians as they may be above cockroaches."

On August 8, 2009 I wrote: "Indians are a dead, inert mass, ready to be made into atmospheric carbon dioxide. The sooner this is done, the better for all concerned. The world has the resources to do this without waiting. The temporary increase in atmospheric pollution this will cause is far outweighed by the short and long term benefits to mankind, not just of the level of pollution in the external environment but, much more importantly, of the pollution of the internal environment -- the gene pool. If there is life in Indians, it is the life characteristic of a malignant virus that needs to be destroyed as soon as possible. The heat and radiation therapy of a few hundred neutron bombs over a few hundred extermination circles will cure mankind of this affliction. Let us get on with it!"

February 23, 2012: It is clear that Indian officials have no intention of bringing the Italian murderers to justice or destroying the dominance over India of Italy and other white countries. These are military men who committed an act of war against India and in war enemies are killed without a trial. Indians must kill as many Italians and other white people in India as they can find, wherever they find them. They must attack the luxury guest house where they have kept the murderers and immediately kill the murderers. Burn the guest house down, if necessary.

I wrote on February 21 '12: "The Additional Director General of Police who does not want "the killing of two innocent fishermen to affect our diplomatic ties with Italy" and so lodged the killers in a "three-star hospitality facility" and did not trouble the killers with any but the most perfunctory questioning -- or not even that -- was just being honest. This is what the Indian government's relationship to white countries is like. If they will not insult a white murderer in police custody for questioning with anything less than V.I.P. lodgings or with any questioning, will they insult him with a hanging or even a life sentence or a sentence of any length or any punishment at all? Since this man is representative of government officials in general, where will you find the investigators for this case or prosecutors and judges to try the accused? Is it not a certainty, then, that the accused will be let go regardless of their crime? I could try them, be both prosecutor and judge and will summarily sentence them to death. Rather than stage a charade of a trial, like the charade of questioning and investigation now, is it not better to summarily execute them? These are military men who committed an act of war against India and in war enemies are killed without a trial." A government is supposed to protect its citizens and since India's government does not protect them from whites, they must protect themselves.

"The high court asked assistant solicitor-general P. Parameshwaran Nair to advise the Centre to work with the Italian authorities to resolve the matter" (Asian Age, February 24, 2012). Resolve a case of murder, which should lead to death sentences for the accused, by 'working with' the Italian authorities? Will the Italians agree to a death sentence for the accused? Is that how murder cases are resolved in India? This nigger blackie slave of a judge was saying a white foreigner cannot be tried as a murder accused in India and shutting out any possibility of justice in the case by foreclosing any possibility of a death sentence. He was also committing the gravest kind of obstruction of justice by asking the assistant solicitor-general to advise the Centre as above and the crime of trashing India's sovereignty in the process which he is required to uphold.

Satish Chandra

February 22, 2012: According to a report (Deccan Chronicle, February 22, 2012) "According to sources, the two Italian Navy men, Latorre Massimiliano and Salvatore Girone, were not interrogated by the police. They were being kept under the police custody at the guest house of the Central Industries Security Force." This confirms what I said below, that bringing the murder accused ashore allegedly for questioning was a fraud played on the Indian public. That they will not be questioned was known to the Italians' lawyer in advance; that is why he said “The marine men are inflexible and tough, and hardly open their mouths. The police may find it very difficult to get answers from them”. So this fraud is being played by Indian officials jointly with the Italians who have been assured that the Indian officials will go through a fraudulent display of questioning, investigation, etc. to fool the Indian public and then let the Italians go. This is treason of the highest order and all Indian officials, at the central as well as state level, have to be punished and the punishment for such treason can only be death.

A photograph of the accused standing outside the guest house with an Indian police officer looking on shows one of the accused apparently dialing a cell phone in his hand. Are murder accused in police custody for questioning allowed to possess or use cell phones?

An Op-Ed article -- prompted by what I have said below about the dominance established by the Italians through the killings being left intact by Indians -- in today's New York Times titled "Peaceful Protest Can Free Palestine" has the following blurb: "Palestinians who seek an independent state and an end to the Israeli occupation should avoid violence and embrace peaceful resistance"; the Jews, through an unsuspecting Palestinian who authored the article, are prescribing for the Palestinians the fake 'Independence' obtained for India by the homosexual M. K. Gandhi -- a lifelong British agent -- who reveled in his "slavery with a vengeance" to the white man (see RAWsTraffickingOfIndianChildrenDOTblogspotDOTcom ). To repeat what I said about dominance below:-

"Wanton killings like this are a display of dominance. Forcibly arresting unwilling criminals and bringing them to a lock up is establishing counter-dominance, just as whipping criminals is an exercise in dominance. By foregoing such establishment of dominance over the criminals and leaving it to the white master to bring the criminals to them, Kerala police are leaving the Italians' dominance over Indians established through the killings intact, letting the Italians keep the reward, the 'kick', they got out of the crime. This is the very opposite of justice. Any talks, negotiations, discussions with Italian officials is aiding and abetting this crime against India."

In establishing their dominance, the British killed over ten million Indians in just the ten years after 1857 and the killings continued right up to the so-called 'Independence' exemplified by the Sikh soldier riding in a jeep with the British viceroy cutting down with his submachine gun any Indian, man, woman or child who came in view on either side of the road (see my blog 'Nuclear Supremacy For India Over U.S.' which can be found by a Yahoo/Google search with the title). This dominance of the white man was left intact by the so-called 'Independence' obtained in a 'freedom struggle' -- managed by the Intelligence Bureau -- by "peaceful resistance". This wanton killing by the Italians was just a manifestation of this dominance as is the Indians' servile behavior toward the Italians. Like the fake 'freedom struggle', this fake conflict with Italy is being managed by RAW which was split off from the Intelligence Bureau and is dedicated to maintaining and enhancing white countries' dominance over India. India will not be Independent until it establishes counter-dominance over white countries, particularly the most powerful white country, the United States. This requires killing hundreds of millions of the enemy and totally devastating their country (see my blog 'Nuclear Supremacy For India Over U.S.').

The killings by the Italian marines were like the killings by the Sikh soldier riding in the jeep with the British viceroy cutting down with his submachine gun any Indian man, woman or child who came in view on either side of the road. There are Indian government ministers like Kapil Sibal who sit at CIA-supplied terminals -- which he has been doing for years in committing various crimes against India; see my blog -- managing this case for RAW. Sibal is one who should be arrested and charged with obstruction of justice and treason. Bringing the Italian murderers to justice is a part of India's war of Independence (see JoinIndiaWarOfIndependenceDOTblogspotDOTcom ).

Italy's dominance over India is also exercised through its troops, as a member of NATO, occupying Afghanistan, a part of traditional India. The traitors and collaborators of the Indian government who are secretly colluding with the Italians to let the murderers go free also urge the American and NATO invaders to continue their occupation of Afghanistan. Punishing the Italian murderers of the Kerala fishermen will be a start, but the murderers -- which include Italians -- of hundreds of thousands of Afghans also have to be punished.

February 21, 2012: The Italian murderers are lodged in an air-conditioned guest house along with an Italian consulate official in the room next to theirs with whom they are seen freely chatting on the lawns outside the guest house in a news photo and all of them get food of their choice from the top hotel in the city. When 'interrogated' on the ship, for each question they asked an Italian consulate official whether they should answer it and answered only if he said yes. In the guest house, “The marine men are inflexible and tough, and hardly open their mouths. The police may find it very difficult to get answers from them,” said V.J. Mathew, the advocate for the owners of the Italian ship" (Deccan Chronicle, February 21, 2012). This is neither police custody nor judicial custody and a flagrant violation of the court order sending them to police custody/judicial custody and a case of the flagrant collaboration in the crime by police who are yet to recover the murder weapons from the ship or search it for evidence of child trafficking (see below), who should have taken custody of all weapons, all crew and a lot, lot more a long time ago and who have been dawdling on the pretext of getting a warrant to search the ship for the weapons when no warrant was needed and, in any case, the entire ship has been in their custody. Does anyone expect them to bring the murderers to justice? It is not just the Kerala police; the entire State government and Central government are flagrantly collaborating in this crime. And so is the judiciary; did the magistrate not know what kind of "police custody" the murder accused were in and how they were being 'questioned'? Is that how murder accused are lodged and is that how they are questioned? A report in The Hindu -- likely placed by RAW to mislead the public -- said the magistrate ordered them to be taken to Cochin central jail. Then why were they not taken there? Whether in police custody or judicial custody, the accused are kept in a police lock up or a jail and questioned there, taken out only for specific purposes such as to show where a body was buried. Is that what they are doing in the air-conditioned guest house?

After I sent the above paragraph, an AFP report was placed on NDTV saying "The Foreign Ministry also said that Indian police had taken "coercive" and "unilateral" action when it escorted the two soldiers off the oil tanker where they were deployed as security guards and arrested them on Sunday". But as I have shown below "the advocate for the shipping company, V. J. Mathew, said in advance of their coming ashore (Express News Service report on ibnlive.in.com), "It has been agreed by the police and the owners of the vessel that the crew could [note the word "could", which meant the interrogation would be by permission of the Italians at a location they agree to] be interrogated at the guest house of the Cochin Port Trust. Taking action against the Naval personnel is something that has to be decided at the diplomatic level"." The Indian police's behavior in the lodging and questioning of the two is neither "coercive" nor "unilateral". The Italian government and Indian government are collaborating in throwing dust in the eyes of the Indian public to hide the fact that the Indian government works for the white countries against its own countrymen and is doing all it can to subvert this case and let the Italian murderers go free.

Is this not how the Indian government behaved in the Quattrocci case, flagrantly subverting its own case against him? Shouldn't the Italian woman be jailed for obstruction of justice, among other crimes? Today the BJP's Arun Jaitley said that the Indian government has "forgotten" "statecraft", meaning it is not subverting this case of the fishermen's killing as skillfully as it ought to. Note that the BJP government also participated in the subversion of the case against Quattrocci. The political parties also work for the white countries and engage in fake quarrels with one another to fool the public like the fake quarrel between the Indian and Italian governments about the fishermen's murder case which also contains within it the case of the trafficking of Indian children to Israel to be used as food, with their skins used for making shoes and handbags, described below.

The Italian government says the Indian government is "pandering to emotions" in this case. Its saying this is understandable because the Jews who butcher India's trafficked children cheer as a living child's flesh is taken off layer by layer and eaten (see the report from Daily Bhaskar below and attached to this E-Mail). And those Italians who wear the shoes and handbags made from the children's skins find it highly pleasurable. And what is a couple of fishermen's murder? But it is the master-slave relationship between India and white countries which underlies these which is of concern. Not to the Indian government but to me. And the Indian government is not "pandering to emotions" but trying to avoid its total destruction. See ThisIsWhatTheJewsHaveBeenDoingDOTblogspotDOTcom .

It seems the murderers are not only in an air-conditioned guest house but also have servants and maids and people to wait on them. “They are in the CISF guest house which has three-star hospitality facility. We don’t want the investigation over the killing of two innocent fishermen to affect our diplomatic ties with Italy,” said [P] Chandrashekharan who is "Additional Director General of Police, Southern Range, Thiruvananthapuram". So if someone from a white country commits murder, he will not be properly questioned, so there will be no proper investigation, so no proper prosecution or conviction. Instead he will be treated as a V.I.P. guest. This is not just obstruction of justice but a whole lot of other crimes. This man and everyone else -- in Kerala police, in the Kerala government or Central government -- responsible for this criminal act of lodging the murder accused who are in police custody for questioning in a "three-star hospitality facility" must be arrested and criminally charged. This man seems to be involved with the investigation from now on because he is quoted as saying “We will direct the captain to surrender the weapon before the investigation officer. If he refuses, we will conduct search operations and take custody of the weapon. It’s a legal formality against which Italy has no immunity". Clearly, he is unfit to have any role in the investigation. The Special Investigation Team (SIT) that has just been formed "will be headed by Sam Christy Daniel and Kochi City Commissioner MR Ajithkumar will also be a member", but both of these have participated in this V.I.P. treatment of the murder accused; even if they were acting under orders, they should not have any leadership role in the investigation. This SIT is no good; an entirely different team is needed.

The Additional Director General of Police above who does not want "the killing of two innocent fishermen to affect our diplomatic ties with Italy" and so lodged the killers in a "three-star hospitality facility" and did not trouble the killers with any but the most perfunctory questioning -- or not even that -- was just being honest. This is what the Indian government's relationship to white countries is like. If they will not insult a white murderer in police custody for questioning with anything less than V.I.P. lodgings or with any questioning, will they insult him with a hanging or even a life sentence or a sentence of any length or any punishment at all? Since this man is representative of government officials in general, where will you find the investigators for this case or prosecutors and judges to try the accused? Is it not a certainty, then, that the accused will be let go regardless of their crime? I could try them, be both prosecutor and judge and will summarily sentence them to death. Rather than stage a charade of a trial, like the charade of questioning and investigation now, is it not better to summarily execute them? These are military men who committed an act of war against India and in war enemies are killed without a trial.

February 19, 2012: Indian officials failed to enforce Indian law on the Italian killers of two Indian fishermen who insisted they will not answer questions or cooperate until they meet with Italian government officials. Their refusal to answer questions or cooperate was all the more reason to arrest them. The ship's crew gave their statements and a couple of them came ashore only when the Italian consul general from Mumbai and the Italian defence attache, who went to the ship, told them to. Indian officials did not arrest them for five whole days but kept begging their Italian masters to tell them to cooperate. Even now they are not arrested but, as the advocate for the shipping company, V. J. Mathew, said in advance of their coming ashore (Express News Service report on ibnlive.in.com), "It has been agreed by the police and the owners of the vessel that the crew could [note the word "could", which meant the interrogation would be by permission of the Italians at a location they agree to] be interrogated at the guest house of the Cochin Port Trust. Taking action against the Naval personnel is something that has to be decided at the diplomatic level". Later reports said they were taken to the CISF guest house. Whatever future proceedings may occur will be thanks to the mercies of the Italian officials; Indian officials have demonstrated their slavery to the white master and refusal to enforce Indian law on white killers of Indians. Indian officials were applying to the Italian officials to let them question the ship's crew, take them ashore, etc. and this satisfied the requirements of the master-slave relationship between India and white countries and the Italians let them proceed.

Still later reports have said that the two Italians from the ship were taken to an "undisclosed location", to hide the fact that they were taken to the Cochin Port Trust guest house, with all that this implies. The reference to the CISF (Central Industrial Security Force) guest house was cooked up to create the impression that they are in some kind of arrest, to fool India's public when these murderers of Indians are being treated as V.I.P. guests, much less arrested and jailed. A video showed foreign minister S. M. Krishna referring to this 'law taking its own course' so "an amicable settlement can be arrived at between the two countries". An "amicable settlement" of a case of the wanton murder of two Indians which should lead to the hangings of the murderers? He considers hangings to be "amicable"? Then what did he mean? And why the lying to the Indian public as to where the murderers have been lodged? Effective interrogation requires that the suspects be in a police lock up, not a V.I.P. guest house. Reports also said the interrogation will be done in the presence of Italian officials. Certainly the Italian officials were present when the crew were interrogated on board the ship. This subverted the justice process. Most likely they are present during their sham interrogation in the V.I.P. guest house. Later, sham court appearances may follow. In innumerable ways, Indian officials are showing they are agents of white countries against their own countrymen, lying and throwing dust in the Indian public's eyes to appear otherwise. Krishna's reference to "an amicable settlement" means that any court proceedings will be sham proceedings and the Indian government officials have already made "an amicable settlement" of the case with their Italian buddies and masters. The wanton murders of two Indians will not stand in the way of their most cordial relations with Italy for whose foreign minister arriving in a few days Krishna is rolling out the red carpet, with a lot of wining and dining, with the finest Italian, or maybe Indian, wines -- which stand for the blood of the fishermen and other Indians -- with Italian, or maybe Indian, bread -- which stands for the flesh of the fishermen and other Indians -- toasting and hand-shaking and music and a lot, lot more, both over and under the table. They are toasting the Italians for the killings and want a lot, lot more.

Up to February 18, 2012: The Indian nigger-slaves of the white man are yet to arrest the crew -- yes, the ENTIRE crew should be arrested -- of the Italian ship which killed two Indian fishermen. The criminal traitors of the Indian government work for the white man and this is another illustration of that. The failure of Kerala's police officials to arrest the crew is due to the Italian woman who is a participant in this crime. It is the responsibility of the Coast Guard and the Indian Navy to defend Indian citizens and the Navy must immediately arrest the entire crew of the Italian ship using whatever force is required, even if the entire crew has to be killed and the Italian ship has to be destroyed. I have said that India's nuclear forces obey Satish Chandra and he does not need India's conventional forces or the rest of the government and citizenry to defend India. In the modern world nuclear weapons are the only weapons that matter and so I am the commander-in-chief of the Indian armed forces, not the stinking cunt who infests the viceregal palace. I have said that the criminal-traitor who is the army chief who visited the British army brigade that is due to be deployed to Afghanistan should be bayoneted to death but will die in the nuclear destruction of New Delhi as will the current air force chief who literally sits at CIA-supplied terminals to bring down Indian air force aircraft with microwave signals from U.S. satellites as I have described in IndianAirForcePilotsMurderDOTblogspotDOTcom . This is an order to the Navy chief to carry out the above arrests without delay; he can ignore this order if he would like to join the army and air force chiefs in their fate.

The Ministry of External Affairs should have no role except in any Italian request for consular access to the crew in jail. For the police officials to wait for orders from New Delhi before arresting the murderers is criminal dereliction of duty. The Coast Guard has said the shooting occurred in Indian waters and the Ministry of Home Affairs has said India has jurisdiction because the fishermen were in an Indian boat and any pleas contesting either of these should be made by the accused to Indian courts; for the police to fail to arrest and jail the crew pending diplomatic discussions or whatever is criminal dereliction of duty and an abetment of the crime. The Ministry of Home Affairs enforces laws, arrests murderers, etc., not the Ministry of External Affairs. If the Ministry of Home Affairs has ordered arrest of the crew, as press reports say and officials in Kerala have disobeyed the order, Central forces should be sent to arrest the crew and the officials in Kerala who have disobeyed the order.

The Ministry of External Affairs has committed obstruction of justice in this case by asking police in Kerala to desist from arresting the murderers or to withhold their arrests pending diplomatic discussions or whatever and the Minister for External Affairs and other officials in the ministry should be charged with these criminal offences.

The Italian woman's role in this obstruction of justice is evident to everyone in India. She should be arrested and charged with obstruction of justice.

As I have described in WhatYouShouldKnowAboutRAWDOTblogspotDOTcom , RAW is a branch of the CIA against India; in this case RAW, through its mouthpiece Times of India (see below) and in other ways such as by instructing officials in the Ministry of External Affairs to behave in certain ways, has undermined India's sovereignty and committed obstruction of justice and, to begin with, RAW director and the Cabinet Secretary to whom he reports should be arrested.

Officials in the Ministry of Home Affairs, such as the Home Minister P. Chidambaram, have known, through my writings such as WhatYouShouldKnowAboutRAWDOTblogspotDOTcom, that RAW is a branch of the CIA against India but have let it continue to operate in India and aided and abetted its operations and the Home Minister should be arrested and charged with high treason.

I hereby order the Navy chief to arrest the top one thousand or so officers of RAW -- including anyone with the rank of undersecretary and above; just the number of joint secretaries in RAW is in the hundreds -- and report to me.

[Report in Indian Express] "Kerala police on Saturday night got an assurance from the ship and the Italian Consulate that two Italian navy marines, suspected to be involved in the firing, would be produced before the police on Sunday morning.
Kochi city Police Commissioner M R Ajithkumar said the Italian authorities have agreed to hand over the two suspects to the police for interrogation." The suspects are not in Italy but in Indian waters under control of Indian authorities. "Italian authorities" should have no role in "producing" them before Indian authorities. It is for the Indian police to go to the ship, put handcuffs on them and bring them to the police station and lock up. Italian "authorities" are not authorities in India but consular officials and they should not even have access to the murderers until consular access is granted at some later date. The Indian nigger-shits are showing their unwillingness to treat the murderers as murder suspects ought to be treated and giving them all kinds of opportunities to destroy evidence, make up stories, etc. Bringing criminals to a lock up against their will -- as the criminals in this case have been unwilling to come -- is a crucial part of the justice process; by unnecessarily asking Italian officials to bring them to the police station, the Indian nigger-shits are abdicating their police function, in effect saying that as blackie nigger-slaves they cannot arrest white murder suspects and only the white master can bring the suspects to them and thus are vitiating the entire justice process, in effect giving the Italians jurisdiction over the case in which they will do what the Italian diplomats allow them to do. "This came hours after External Affairs Minister S M Krishna called up his Italian counterpart Giulio Terzi di Sant’Agata in connection with the killing. With the ship captain refusing to hand over the suspects, Krishna conveyed that the ship crew “should fully cooperate” with the Indian investigating authorities." The ship is in Indian waters under Indian control; Krishna was simply continuing the treasonous behavior of the Ministry of External Affairs but for the police in Kerala to fail to do their duty -- of boarding the ship, arresting the suspects and bringing them to the police station and, instead, leaving it to Italian officials to do that is criminal abdication of their duty and a demonstration of their unwillingness to bring the murderers to justice. The captain is also responsible for the murders and the rest of the crew are crucial witnesses who should all be in lock up.

Wanton killings like this are a display of dominance. Forcibly arresting unwilling criminals and bringing them to a lock up is establishing counter-dominance, just as whipping criminals is an exercise in dominance. By foregoing such establishment of dominance over the criminals and leaving it to the white master to bring the criminals to them, Kerala police are leaving the Italians' dominance over Indians established through the killings intact, letting the Italians keep the reward, the 'kick', they got out of the crime. This is the very opposite of justice. Any talks, negotiations, discussions with Italian officials is aiding and abetting this crime against India.

After the bombing of the Israeli car in New Delhi this week, India's foreign minister called his Israeli counter part and promised "full cooperation", so the Israelis were to be the investigators and India will be in a supporting role in investigating an incident that occurred in India. After the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, U. S. officials claimed "jurisdiction" and the FBI director repeated his claim of "jurisdiction" after I wrote that the U.S. officials, who came without invitation and claimed they were U.S. government officials and did not need papers to come, must be arrested and treated as invaders (see my blog 'Nuclear Supremacy For India Over U.S.' which can be found by a Yahoo/Google search with the title) and Indian officials submitted to the American claim. Instead of immediately arresting all crew members of this Italian ship which shot and killed two Indians, putting them in jail and treating them like any accused of murder, India lodges a "protest" with the Italian embassy, asks the Italian embassy to take charge of the probe and make the crew cooperate, as the crew were not cooperating and tells the Coast Guard to call it an "error of judgment" -- like any murder is an error of judgment -- and a report in RAW-mouthpiece Times of India said the incident occurred in international waters (though it occurred in Indian waters, as the Coast Guard has said) and India does not have "jurisdiction" to try the murderers which will have to be done by Italy. So white countries have jurisdiction even if 26/11 occurred on Indian soil and India has no jurisdiction if its citizens are murdered in "international waters". This Italian ship, which came dangerously close to the shore "with some ulterior motive" ( moneylifeDOTin/article/killing-of-indian-seafarers-in-cold-blood-off-keralamdashthe-case-of-the-st-anthony-and-enrica-lexie/23712DOThtml ; this author refers to the "criminal attitude and approach taken by the various authorities in India in this matter") was taking part in the trafficking of Indian children. The number of Indian children being trafficked to Israel, brutally tortured, killed and consumed as food every year far exceeds the number of deaths in Syria's civil unrest but there is no international outcry about it. RAW had proposed a processing facility to prepare and ship the meat of Indians to Israel but it was rejected because Jewish custom requires the victims to be tortured and killed over several hours before they can be eaten.

A by-product of their being killed in Israel rather than India is that their skins are found to be incomparably more valuable than their meat and are used in the manufacture of super-expensive shoes and handbags.

Should RAW's trafficking of Indian children to Israel as food and for their skins be a cause for regime change? You bet!

This trafficking has the sanction of the Italian woman but is she a member of Indian society? The wealth that Imelda Marcos and her husband in the Philippines amassed was not even peanuts compared to the wealth amassed by the Italian woman just as Imelda Marcos' world famous shoe collection was nothing compared to the Italian woman's fetish for shoes made from the skins of Indian children.

The Italian woman gifted some of these shoes made from the skins of Indian children to the French president's wife who is Italian. Also handbags. The United States Secretary of State had requested one such handbag and it was sent to her by special jet which made the trip just for this purpose. Soon it will be a standard gift item to give to people in American and European governments.

The BJP said its ministers in the Karnataka legislature were only "watching" violent **** videos on a smart phone, not "doing" it. Owners of these shoes & handbags -- who report wearing these shoes or carrying the handbag to be an intensely sexual experience -- get videos of the prolonged torture, killing & skinning of the child whose skin was used in their shoes or handbags & can choose the child in advance.

I am India's expert in strategic defence, the father of India's strategic program including the Integrated Guided Missile Development Program and the world's greatest scientist (my biography is in Marquis' Who's Who in the World, 2012 and earlier editions).

It will be a fatal mistake to get diverted by the abuse RAW posts to divert people. This is just the tip of the iceberg. RAW is also posting fake comments in my name and removing my posted comments. SAVE THIS ON YOUR COMPUTER & PASS IT ON. See RAWsTraffickingOfIndianChildrenDOTblogspotDOTcom .

February 19, 2012: I have said (above) that this Italian ship was participating in the trafficking of Indian children to Israel to be used as food. A report in daily.bhaskar.com of February 20, 2012 (dailyDOTbhaskarDOTcom/article/UP-another-horror-nithari-like-vampires-exposed-in-meerut-2878885DOThtml?HT4=&msg=476057 ) says:-

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"New Delhi/Meerut: Even as the gruesome memories of Nithari killings are yet to fade, a similar hair-raising incident has taken the entire nation by storm.
In what would sound like a horrendous nightmare, locals have busted a 150-member gang, which allegedly used to slaugther abducted children, roast their bodies and eat them after failing to strike a handsome deal with child traffickers.
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During interrogation, the youth, identified as Amarjeet, has disclosed he is a member of a child trafficking gang and is paid Rs 10,000 to kidnap children on board trains in Delhi and Haryana.
The police were left aghast when Amarjeet confessed that gang members cut abducted children into pieces, roast their bodies and eat them after failing to strike a handsome deal with child traffickers, IG, Meerut range, Rajiv Krishna said.
The accused has also confessed to abducting a large number of children from nearby areas and selling them to child traffickers in Delhi and Haryana, Krishna said.
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These child traffickers are trafficking the children to Israel to be used as food. Since the children are cut into pieces and eaten as food in Israel (see below and in RAWsTraffickingOfIndianChildrenDOTblogspotDOTcom ), these traffickers, who are Hindus from the heart of India's heartland, have adopted the practice of eating the children they cannot sell at a good price. This would be similar to Indians working in call centers serving Americans adopting, along with American accents, American-like sex and drug practices.

Although the report says the "incident has taken the entire nation by storm", a search of Google News did not turn up the story in any other media organ except Daily Bhaskar. It disappeared from the Home Page of daily.bhaskar.com right after I saved it on my computer but the story is still listed under 'Uttar Pradesh' under 'States' and is accessible via: dailyDOTbhaskarDOTcom/article/UP-another-horror-nithari-like-vampires-exposed-in-meerut-2878885DOThtml . Presumably the story is being suppressed by RAW which does the trafficking.

I have had in mind that the story may have been concocted by RAW to 'neutralise' what I have said about the trafficking of Indian children to Israel to be used as food, with their skins used for making shoes and handbags.

Although Indian officials have deliberately given the crew of the ship ample opportunity to erase evidence of the child trafficking the ship was participating in (see below), the ship must be thoroughly searched for such evidence, even though it will be difficult to find anything that RAW does not want to be found. But it is mandatory that the ENTIRE crew of the ship be arrested and thoroughly questioned, over months if necessary, using all the methods available to Indian police, about the trafficking. Since RAW can make the police and any other government and non-government agency say and do whatever it wants, finding the interrogators for the job will be difficult but not impossible. DNA evidence of the trafficked children will be particularly valuable and may be the easiest to find and difficult to erase.

The website dailyDOTbhaskarDOTcom, which carries the story about the child-trafficking ring in the Meerut area, is the English language site of Daily Bhaskar. I do not see the story on its Hindi language site or on the websites of Dainik Jagran or Nai Dunia, which I checked in case the story was only carried by Indian language newspapers. The story may have been placed by RAW on dailyDOTbhaskarDOTcom, which it knows I visit frequently, to divert me from writing about the fishermen's killings, which everyone knows about, to writing about the trafficking of Indian children to Israel to be used as food, which very few people know about.

Satish Chandra
 
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Even if America has forces in India they should at least have a common front and not embarrass Indian govt. This shows Americans really don't care what Indians or for that fact care about any country they do whatever they want. They are a menace to this world and should be expelled from our neighbourhood by our govts
 
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You think they are also in CHINA???

Thəorətic Muslim;2658682 said:
Why is this news? American SpecOps are operating in every country. Training or carrying out ops. It is quite an opportunity to have them around as trainers. Larning the most modern tactics and getting a feel for how American Troops think and why they think in that way. All-around best soldiers.
 
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What you think your commie leaders are going to tell you who operates in the country and who doesn't?
Doesn't China send it's soldiers to America for exchanges? You think America doesn't send them to China also?
Or are you just trolling? Every nation has a two-face, or are you to arrogant to believe the CCP is so faithful to preserve their lineage.

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You think they are also in CHINA???

What you think your commie leaders are going to tell you who operates in the country and who doesn't?
Doesn't China send it's soldiers to America for exchanges? You think America doesn't send them to China also?
Or are you just trolling? Every nation has a two-face, or are you to arrogant to believe the CCP is so faithful to preserve their lineage.
 
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India should investigate whether or not they are there without their permission. At least I'm sure there's no way US spies are not already in India, whether American or Indian traitors.
WE are discussing about India... Not about u....
 
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