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US retreat from Afghanistan is a geopolitical masterstroke

Pitfalls of a restructuring...
Sorting out structured or borrowed chameleons and/or opportunists.

How deep do they seep in, how high up they rise and most importantly how long they stay as or on a consequential post... if in fact that is a pivot point could be detrimental in derailing the shift.

So, who benefits really?

Yet to be seen... until then speculation is free of charge!
 
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US knows that
Power to buy you out
😏😏
If mullahs in pak can be mouth piece for dirham
Trust me the guns and $$ will always out match
 
it's more like Iran interests in Afghanistan will be severely harmed, Taliban is a Sunni-Pashtun movement, the perspective for the Shia Hazara is bleak, this will somehow forced Iran to step up, possibly creating some sort of Afghan Hezbollah.

Creating an Afghan Hezbollah will definitely clash with Taliban interests in the country.
I hate to break it to you that things are not black and white in Afghanistan. You would be surprised to know that AQ top shop Abdur Rehman Riki used Iran for to and fro movement to Afghanistan despite being a radical militant. Taliban have a hazara warlord as their ally in a province. China is only concerned about Uighurs militants in Af Pak region, the rest presents no threat to it.
Iran, Russia, China and Pakistan know what's coming to Pakistan and hence they are securing their own flanks. Taliban are not going to declare war on China or Iran for they know their own capacity and challenges.
 
I hate to break it to you that things are not black and white in Afghanistan. You would be surprised to know that AQ top shop Abdur Rehman Riki used Iran for to and fro movement to Afghanistan despite being a radical militant. Taliban have a hazara warlord as their ally in a province. China is only concerned about Uighurs militants in Af Pak region, the rest presents no threat to it.
Iran, Russia, China and Pakistan know what's coming to Pakistan and hence they are securing their own flanks. Taliban are not going to declare war on China or Iran for they know their own capacity and challenges.
When did I said Taliban will declare war on China? :lol:
Read carefully, I said communist natural hatred of islamist will force them to pay extra attention. Thus making things more difficult for them.
Taliban will not declare war with Iran, but the Hazara people could be persecuted, as they're not pashtun and not sunni. Iran which is kinda like the global protector of shiite could somehow finds itself dragged into an Afghan quagmire.
 
When did I said Taliban will declare war on China? :lol:
Read carefully, I said communist natural hatred of islamist will force them to pay extra attention. Thus making things more difficult for them.
Taliban will not declare war with Iran, but the Hazara people could be persecuted, as they're not pashtun and not sunni. Iran which is kinda like the global protector of shiite could somehow finds itself dragged into an Afghan quagmire.
You literally said that Taliban will affect BRI project which essentially means declaring a war on China. Despite ideological difference with Hazara, Taliban are not going to massacre Hazara on ideological terms it is ISIS that does so.
 
You literally said that Taliban will affect BRI project which essentially means declaring a war on China. Despite ideological difference with Hazara, Taliban are not going to massacre Hazara on ideological terms it is ISIS that does so.
Taliban has a history of persecuting and killing Hazara people. If your understanding of affecting BRI=declaring war then that's your problem :lol:
 
Taliban has a history of persecuting and killing Hazara people. If your understanding of affecting BRI=declaring war then that's your problem :lol:
So militants will attack/Resist BRI and china will back out without using coercive means?
And like i said, Taliban are going to make alliances even if it comes from Hazara.
 
Congratulations U.S. state propaganda mouthpieces like the US state run Gandhara and Washington Post confirm exactly what suppressed voices in America and media in free countries have long exposed. Lawless U.S.A. is a destablizing and desctructive force causing suffering, chaos and preventing development wordwide including Afghanistan.

What a masterstroke. 🙄
 
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

This is RAW/NDS fan fiction. As long as RAW and NDS terror master minds are purged from Afghanistan.....the region will prosper.
 
Taliban has a history of persecuting and killing Hazara people. If your understanding of affecting BRI=declaring war then that's your problem :lol:

LOL dude, where is your beloved India in this plea? 20 years the Indians milked you like donkeys. Today they are nowhere to be found. I heard your puppy is establishing relations with the Taliban LOL I guess the reality settles in.
 
US knows that
Power to buy you out
😏😏
If mullahs in pak can be mouth piece for dirham
Trust me the guns and $$ will always out match

Your papa America has zero chance. What makes you think that daddy America can do today or in the future they haven't already tried in the last 20 years? Papa America is literally begging every country in the neighborhood for a military base. Not a single country is willing to provide a base. You should already know that papa America's exit is a disgraceful one.

By: Striver44

Nobody ever realized that by letting Taliban ruled over Afghanistan once more, The US not only lifted itself out of the burden of endless counterinsurgency, it also potentially brings a huge geopolitical impact to the two most important US rivals in the region namely Iran and PRC.

Since the US started it's hasty retrogade from Afghanistan 1st of May this year, the Taliban has thus far captured 32 districts while besieging many provinicial capital such as Lashkar Gah, while cutting the main roads from Kabul to Kandahar. Thus if it continue n this trajectory, it will be (in my best estimate) a year or two before the Taliban once again ruled over Kabul.


By having an puritanical Islamic militants ruling over Afghanistan once more, the relative safety provided by the US +NATO presence in the decade since 2001 would all be over and the geopolitical reality were once more shifting, most notably countries that will be most affected by this is the PRC, Pakistan and Iran.

The Taliban like most islamist militant group despised China, due to the latter mass incarcerations of muslims in Xinjiang, by having Kabul administration replaced by the Talibs, the PRC which lays close . This could in fact affect their BRI projects.
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and Beijing realized this and isn't cool either with the prospect.

you could sense this from their mouthpiece Xinhua, who do some sort of influence operation to keep the US stay in AFghanistan.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-12/24/c_137696107.htm

so does global times

and by their statements from their MoFA,
"At present, the unilateral withdrawal of US and NATO troops at the critical stage of the peace and reconciliation process in Afghanistan has brought uncertainties to Afghanistan's domestic situation and regional security landscape. As neighbors,"


also from Hua Chunying:

It needs to be pointed out that the recent abrupt US announcement of complete withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan has led to a succession of explosive attacks throughout the country, worsening the security situation and threatening peace and stability as well as people’s life and safety. China calls on foreign troops in Afghanistan to take into full account the security of people in the country and the region, pull out in a responsible manner and avoid inflicting more turmoil and suffering on the Afghan people.


another plus to having a unstable Afghanistan, is that China for once more need's to ramp up it's land force and increase it's scpe of internal security in Xinjiang, this could increase the cost and burden as China is also facing the Quad alliance currently being propped up by the Biden admin.

China already spent more on internal defense than their external defense, especially since Xi Jinping tightens it's grip on power



On the contrary, now the US could harness all of it's power and resurces against China on a multi theater front, the most notable is the Pacific. The US compared to China, didn't have any significant ideological or military fore right his fence. The US could better use the money and resource originally for it'expense in Afghanistan into building and enhancing alliance in particular the QUAD and keeping ASEAN from ever getting very close to China.

another thing to consider is that once more the US Navy is given priority over the US Army, as the battlefields have now changed from the rough desert and mountains of Afghanistan to the open ocean of the Pacific. This will prioritize long range firepower like hypersonic and ballistic missile, something that China have an advantage over the US until very recently as well as ships and long range aviation.

another potential country that could be affected by the Taliban return to power is none other than Iran, not that Iran shares hundreds of kilometres of border with the Taliban, as history suggest , Taliban which is a Sunni militant group had a natural hatred of the Shiite country next door. Taliban doesn't have a friendly history with both Shiite inside and outside the country.


also the the likelihood of the Hazaras (an ethnic Shiite) living in Afghanistan getting persecuted by the Taliban could potentially forced Iran to create some sort of Afghan Hezbollah, possibly creating enmity between Iran and the Sunni Pashtun dominated Taliban. Iran could found itself entrenched in a two front conflict with Israel+GCC in the West and Taliban in the East.
@Dalit

LMAO this is a CIA source peeps. This Indian donkey striver is propagating CIA misinformation that no one buys anymore.
 
LOL Major loss for the US.

Iran, Pakistan, Russia, China and Turkey aren't letting this golden opportunity slip.
Not quite. US is leaving behind their fellow NATO buddies the Turkish Army at Kabul Airport after Erdogan agreed to Biden's request.

“If foreign forces want to retain a military presence here in the name of airport security, Afghans will not allow it and will view them as invaders, be it Turkey or any other country,” Mujahid told VOA.
 
Your papa America has zero chance. What makes you think that daddy America can do today or in the future they haven't already tried in the last 20 years? Papa America is literally begging every country in the neighborhood for a military base. Not a single country is willing to provide a base. You should already know that papa America's exit is a disgraceful one.
Dude if a 10 year old is ready for fight would you go all out on 10 year old?
America is daddy to everyone even Iran can't function right you know why? Bcz daddy America is not happy. Trust me there are many in ranks always ready to impress daddy America.. I hope you understand what I said here.... Many wish to and always try to impress daddy America. Regarding Afghanistan why talibs want deal from daddy America but not Afghan govt. Daddy is daddy 😂
Even Chinese trying to impress daddy America
 
United States is not retreating. They are just advancing in another direction.
 

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