US ready to act on Syria outside UN?

[lem34]

I don't know how you guys are supporting that criminal Al Assad. I'm not with any foreign intervention at all, and I know that Bashar Al Assad is a president who isn't pro-western, but that doesn't give him the right to commit those horrible crimes!
Stop saying they are terrorists, they are units who defected from the Syrian army. That means that there were Al Qaeda units in the Syrian army, if those who are against the regime are truly terrorists.
Had Al Assad not committed those horrible crimes and listened to his people and their demands, we wouldn't have seen such blood.

Not that I agree with you but why are his crimes worse than other dictators. I presume Bahrain & Saud are ok??

 

[illusion8]

Exactly what I was trying to say. The next 6 months should show if we will see if we live in a unipolar world or multi polar world



I hear what you have to say. But we are coming to a time now that if China Russia let Syria and then Iran fall certainly Pakistan will be next.

They will have achieved complete dominance and they will in due course cross their red lines at will. So lets see.

I totally agree this will definitely define the future, though I do not support Assad's regime but if Russia fails to protect Syria then what you have said in the following lines is a near enough possibility due to higher confidence gained.

 

[Skorpian]

Not that I agree with you but why are his crimes worse than other dictators. I presume Bahrain & Saud are ok??

I never said that they were ok, and I'm not to judge here because I don't follow the protests in Bahrain to be honest, but crimes of certain dictators don't make crimes of other dictators justifiable.

 

[SamranAli]

so dissolve the UNSC when US has to bypass it and want to dictate..

 

[Speaker]

But Russia and China even India and Pakistan have always supported non interference and non intervention without UN resolutions

India and Pakistan can afford to stay neutral. If Russia and China gloat over being permanent UNSC representatives, they need to show leadership and take a stance.

 

[lem34]

I never said that they were ok, and I'm not to judge here because I don't follow the protests in Bahrain to be honest, but crimes of certain dictators don't make crimes of other dictators justifiable.

But it would appear that dictators who do what America etc wants are ok. So if you want to abuse your people just stay on side with west.

India and Pakistan can afford to stay neutral. If Russia and China gloat over being permanent UNSC representatives, they need to show leadership and take a stance.

Absolutly. That was what I was suggesting its time to put up or shut up

 

[Mootaz-khelifi]

it don't look right if some one gonna act outside UN it we the other Arab not USA

 

[illusion8]

But it would appear that dictators who do what America etc wants are ok. So if you want to abuse your people just stay on side with west.



Absolutly. That was what I was suggesting its time to put up or shut up

Russian response will most definitely be what all of us presume, no way is Russia giving up on Syria. One thing about Bahrain and Yemen - it was a people's uprising - Arab spring - against an authoritative regime - it's the same in Syria - we cannot discount that fact - Russia could be influential in bringing people's rule in Syria though.

 

[KingMamba]

This is just saber rattling at its best perhaps they are trying to gauge Russia's final stance before they take any military action, remember they underestimated the Russians when they told Georgia to proceed with the re annexation of South Ossetia and Abhkazia and the Russians surprised everyone by crushing the Georgian army LOL. They don't want to make that mistake twice.

 

[lem34]

Russian response will most definitely be what all of us presume, no way is Russia giving up on Syria. One thing about Bahrain and Yemen - it was a people's uprising - Arab spring - against an authoritative regime - it's the same in Syria - we cannot discount that fact - Russia could be influential in bringing people's rule in Syria though.

I think we should have a standard response in that where this kind of thing happens the UN is invited to hold elections and monitor them. Whoever wins should be supported by international community.

Also any external country found aiding and abetting should be penalised with sanctions etc

This is just saber rattling at its best perhaps they are trying to gauge Russia's final stance before they take any military action, remember they underestimated the Russians when they told Georgia to proceed with the re annexation of South Ossetia and Abhkazia and the Russians surprised everyone by crushing the Georgian army LOL. They don't want to make that mistake twice.

But that had a border with Russia. But it would be refreshing if force was not allowed to succeed

 

[Bratva]

Not that I agree with you but why are his crimes worse than other dictators. I presume Bahrain & Saud are ok??

Children and women killed by bahrain or Saud?

 

[BATMAN]

Not that I agree with you but why are his crimes worse than other dictators. I presume Bahrain & Saud are ok??

Easy... make table of crimes and compare.

 

[KingMamba]

I think we should have a standard response in that where this kind of ting happens the UN is invited to hold elections and monitor them. Whoever wins should be supported by international community.

Also any external country found aiding and abetting should be penalised with sanctions etc



But that had a border with Russia. But it would be refreshing if force was not allowed to succeed

True but for Russia to let Syria fall without a fight would be them removing themselves from the Middle East (with the exception of Iran but they would probably be next) and the Russian will look after their interests first no way they gonna let NATO box them in.

 

[lem34]

Children and women killed by bahrain or Saud?

there are reports of this. Of course you have a smaller population so there will be fewer in Syria. But who are Sauds to send troops into Bahrain. There should be no interference from outside. That vile family of Sauds has much to answer for

 

[amidamaru]

look... eventually there will be a breaking point....the US is calling russia and china on their bluff..... now, usa etc could very well interfere in syria militarily... if this happens, other nato allies will join.... china and russia... even iran.. may not get involved at first... if they dont, eventually, iran will be the target.. and so on... there will be a breaking point where china and russia will of had enough, and they will be thinking, its only a matter of time before they come for other countries and us too.... china russia iran etc may or may not beat usa and allies... but , the more countries that are overthrown by the usa, before a china,russia - usa war, the less chance russia and china have of winning... so , if they got the balls, and use their intelligence, if usa get involved in syria... china, russia, syria, iran should all say go f urself usa, we are at war now