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"China supports Pakistan’s sovereignty, territorial integrity"

Chinese are supporting something that the Pakistanis they them selves do not care about.

Had they any respect for their own sovereignty..they would not have let their country become haven for terrorists from all over the world or as a consequence let US drones fly undauntedly to hunt them.
 
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Chinese might help Pakistan diplomatically in UNSC. The extremism in Afghanistan is out of control and has entered middle braces in both government and military sectors of Pakistan which is the most dangerous fact, because Pakistanis have died in FATA, SWAT etc.. . Backbiting from both the sides is on full scale.
 
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When will we put our own house in order? Its a good gesture from the friendly countries to remove our sense of isolation but till when we will wait and beg others for our own security? look at our assets in swiss banks, it tells very much about our capacity as a nation. Lets stand at our own feet and thwart any evil intentions, internally and externally.
 
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Pakistan need to strengthen its naval defenses.

Recent attack of TTP on Pakistan's navy's P-3 orion aircraft tells all the cookery.

It is in best interest of Pakistan to send both Bashir brothers on retirement with immediate effect and change all persons appointed by both in any position.
 
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Eastern Alliance: Pakistan lobbying for defence pact with China

“Our view is, and it is also shared by authorities in Beijing to an extent, that this will send a strong signal to the world that Pakistan is not alone … an emerging world power is standing behind it,” an official said

ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan seems to have been secretly lobbying in recent months for a bilateral defence pact with China. The efforts have been met with caution in Beijing, however, and officials say there is little hope for an immediate breakthrough.

Diplomatic and military officials told The Express Tribune that Pakistan made overtures to China early this year when its relationship with the US was weakened by several controversies. Islamabad used backdoor and regular diplomatic channels in an attempt to convince the Chinese leadership that the agreement was mutually beneficial, the officials said. “Our view is, and it is also shared by authorities in Beijing to an extent, that this will send a strong signal to the world that Pakistan is not alone … an emerging world power is standing behind it,” an official said.

He added that Pakistan formally raised the issue during a visit by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to China early this year, immediately after the killing of al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden by US commandos. “He put forward Pakistan’s desire formally,” said an official who was privy to the development but requested his name not be mentioned due to the sensitivity of the issue.
(Read: China endorses Pakistan’s response to US raid: PM)
However, the Chinese leadership, officials said, advised Pakistan not to push for an agreement that could put Islamabad and Beijing in trouble with both Washington and New Delhi. A spokesperson for the foreign ministry refused to either confirm or deny that Pakistan was seeking a formal pact with China, though both countries cooperate extensively in defence production and civil nuclear technology.

“I don’t want to comment on it,” was the brisk answer by Foreign Office Spokeswoman Tehmina Janjua when her comments were sought. Recent diplomatic events seem to add weight to the officials’ claims, though. Gilani’s visit to China, in which he declared the country Pakistan’s best friend, ruffled feathers in the US. One key US Senator said the comments made it harder to convince a sceptical US public that providing aid to Pakistan was a good idea.

“Frankly, I’m getting tired of it, and I think Americans are getting tired of it as far as shoveling money in there at people who just flat don’t like us,” said Idaho Republican Senator James Risch.
Experts appeared to be divided on how China is responding to Pakistan’s request. General (retd) Hamid Gul, former chief of the ISI, said he believed China would go to any extent to support Pakistan but expecting a defence pact at this stage was little too ambitious.
Defence analyst Ayesha Siddiqa took a different position, saying it was possible to imagine that Islamabad and Beijing were involved in talks on the issue, as they already cooperated regularly on defence matters. “They (Pakistani leaders) might be trying…and it looks workable as well,” said Siddiqa. “There might be a lot of reservations in Washington and New Delhi. But it is unlikely to trigger a conflict,” she added.

(Read: With us or against us? A decade on, Pakistan is wavering)
Published in The Express Tribune, September 27th, 2011.

Eastern Alliance: Pakistan lobbying for defence pact with China – The Express Tribune
 
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This is very good news. Pakistan should be closer to regional countries, especially our most powerful immediate neighbour China. Pakistan should also immediately join the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO).


:pakistan: :china:
 
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This is very good news. Pakistan should be closer to regional countries, especially our most powerful immediate neighbour China. Pakistan should also immediately join the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO).


:pakistan: :china:

We don’t need a defence pact with china, china is a responsible nation and it will likely stay out of conflicts that may drag her in to with no solutions for exit.

We should rather strengthen our relations with other countries particularly Nepal!!

Peace
 
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We don’t need a defence pact with china, china is a responsible nation and it will likely stay out of conflicts that may drag her in to with no solutions for exit.

We should rather strengthen our relations with other countries particularly Nepal!!

Peace

You speak so much sense, as people on here do not.

China will not ruin her economy to defend Pakistan who is having troubles with usa and terrorists
 
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We don’t need a defence pact with china, china is a responsible nation and it will likely stay out of conflicts that may drag her in to with no solutions for exit.

We should rather strengthen our relations with other countries particularly Nepal!!

Peace

Nepal say humnay kya lehnay hai bhai.

That small country?

China is the strongest country in Asia. This defence pact will benefit Pakistan more than China. Pakistan needs China more than China needs Pakistan.
 
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Nepal say humnay kya lehnay hai bhai.

That small country?

China is the strongest country in Asia. This defence pact will benefit Pakistan more than China. Pakistan needs China more than China needs Pakistan.

Actually Nepal is run by some Maoist government. They definitely do not like India. Did you read the Nepalese newspapers? They have A LOT of Pro-Pakistani articles and anti-Indian articles.

Also ever since there was a movie about Buddha being born in India, actually turns it he was born in a place which turns out to be in Nepal, many Nepalese got very angry.

India also has a territorial dispute with Nepal.

China will obviously support their ideological allies in Nepal.

I wonder how India can fight a three front war against Pakistan, China, and Nepal.

China has also built a land route or is building a land route to Nepal through the Himalayas.
 
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However, the Chinese leadership, officials said, advised Pakistan not to push for an agreement that could put Islamabad and Beijing in trouble with both Washington and New Delhi. A spokesperson for the foreign ministry refused to either confirm or deny that Pakistan was seeking a formal pact with China, though both countries cooperate extensively in defence production and civil nuclear technology.

It is refused but is very wise decision. Pakistan govt should do better in act.

For Pakistan join SCO membership, it will not happen until India and Pakistan solve their own situations by themselves, SCO warned them.
 
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Astoundingly stupid move: China will NOT put Beijing under the gun for Islamabad.

It just shows our politicians are living in a fantasy world and have ZERO qualifications to lead a nation.

When you keep making unreasonable demands on your friends, they will stop being your friends.
 
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China is still an "emerging power", we still need many more years before we are ready for the big time.

Pakistan's best bet right now, is to join the SCO and focus more on things like Gwadar port and KKH. When Pakistan becomes a vital lifeline to China's economy, that will ensure a de-facto defence alliance, even without it being properly formalized.

For a true defence pact, it will have to wait until China has properly emerged as a global power.
 
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