US offers help for next generation aircraft carrier

[Nisha]

And all this time, you guys were so skeptical of the US. Just wait and watch...The US is a great ally as long you act like an ally. I hope India-US relations reach the moon and the stars. There is a great deal we all can learn from the US. Stop focusing solely on the negative and focus on their positives.

 

[Dillinger]

Back to square one. One wonders if the two broad divisions present in the production process of any such equipment are known- and if so then exactly what "ToT" shall be imparted. There is this daft notion that ToT facilitates R&D growth and capacities that can be retrenched into subsequent projects- no it can't, given that most ToT is actually M-ToT. Secondly, no one is jointly developing the Javelin, its warhead shall be optimized for high altitude operations jointly and the system might take on a different name, nothing more and nothing less. The only relief here is that CISMOA might be worked around. Brain dead journos reaching the wrong conclusion even after having quoted Carter's exact words. Cooperation will go up, but its not the sort of cooperation (neither in terms of quantum or depth) that people think it is. Although floor level management practices and process streamlining would be important lessons that can be accrued if one is willing. No transfer of know-how is going to occur albeit transfer of know-why might occur if systems are assembled in country.
@Hyperion I see you're here, difficult to explain things, no?

 

[Indianpatriot1]

And all this time, you guys were so skeptical of the US. Just wait and watch...The US is a great ally as long you act like an ally. I hope India-US relations reach the moon and the stars. There is a great deal we all can learn from the US. Stop focusing solely on the negative and focus on their positives.

God save India from US based Indian cheerleaders.

 

[cirr]

Skin the hapless Indians to the last dime。

When will the Indians grow up and stop living on other's charity？

 

[sovcomflot]

God save India from US based Indian cheerleaders.

Precisely.

 

[Indianpatriot1]

Guess it is a quid pro quo for this

Manmohan may carry nuclear liability dilution as gift for U.S. companies

It is for operator to exercise ‘right of recourse’ under section 17 of Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage Act

Under sustained pressure from the Obama administration, the Manmohan Singh government is looking to use the opinion of the Attorney- General to effectively neutralise a key provision of India’s nuclear liability law that would hold American reactor suppliers liable in the event of an accident caused by faulty or defective equipment.

In an opinion to the Department of Atomic Energy, which referred the matter to him on September 4, Goolam Vahanvati has said it is for the operator of a nuclear plant in India to decide whether it wished to exercise the ‘right of recourse’ provided to it by section 17 of the Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage Act.

The AG’s opinion effectively paves the way for the Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd, which will operate any nuclear plant using imported reactors, to repudiate a right that Parliament explicitly wrote into section 17(b) of the law to ensure that foreign suppliers don’t get away scot-free if a nuclear accident is traced back to “equipment or material with patent or latent defects or sub standard services.”

American nuclear vendors Westinghouse and GE have lobbied hard with Washington and Delhi to have this provision amended or removed. Though India has publicly stuck to the line that dilution of this provision is not possible, Mr. Vahanvati’s view opens a door for the government to accommodate the U.S. demand when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh meets President Barack Obama on September 27.

Reiterating the opinion he gave to the government in October 2012 in the context of the Inter-Governmental Agreement between India and Russia, Mr Vahanvati noted, “Section 17(a) provides for recourse if such right is expressly provided for in a contract in writing. If the operator chooses not to incorporate such a provision in the contract, it would be open for him to do so.”

In its reference to the AG, the DAE had sought confirmation “regarding the presumption that the existing provisions of section 17 of the Act facilitate the operator either to exercise his ‘right of recourse’ by incorporating a clause in the contract or to waive his right or to limit the liability on the part of the supplier.”

The AG endorsed the view expressed by the Ministry of External Affairs in an internal note that “a right was given to the operator to have recourse against the supplier but there was no mandatory obligation or requirement for the operator to do so and that the operator could choose not to exercise that right.”

The AG’s view is likely to be challenged by the opposition, since section 17 grants the operator the right of recourse under one of three conditions: (a) if the right is expressly provided for in writing; (b) if the accident is caused by faulty material or equipment provided by the supplier; or (c) the accident results from an act of commission or omission of an individual done with intent to cause nuclear damage.

Since 17(b) suggests Parliament intended to hold suppliers responsible even if there is no contractual liability, it is not clear how a public sector undertaking like NPCIL, which is answerable to Parliament, could give its suppliers a free pass.

In 2008, India had promised American companies 10,000 MWe worth of contracts for setting up nuclear power plants in return for the U.S. administration helping to end the country’s nuclear isolation.

Now, five years later, NPCIL and Westinghouse are set to sign an agreement that in theory will give the American company the go ahead to begin work on its proposed nuclear power park in Mithi Virdi, Gujarat.

Keen to improve the ‘atmospherics’ around the signing of the pact, likely to be on the day Dr. Singh and Mr. Obama meet at the White House, the government is asking NPCIL to announce $100-175 million as the first token payment for the Gujarat reactor.

 

[cirr]

And all this time, you guys were so skeptical of the US. Just wait and watch...The US is a great ally as long you act like an ally. I hope India-US relations reach the moon and the stars. There is a great deal we all can learn from the US. Stop focusing solely on the negative and focus on their positives.

You mean act as required and dictated by the US？

 

[BLING]

Americans Must prove their friendship by selling 3 - 4 NIMITZ CLASS AC to India
Time to Prove Back your Claim AMERICA )

 

[sovcomflot]

Guess it is a quid pro quo for this

Fukushima was the result of an american GE reactor . Look at it Today,still spewing radioactive debris and in a position of uncontrolled meltdown . The soviet RBMK's were much better than this ,look at chernobyl brought in control in less than a week .

Not a wonder that USA wants no liability so that it can pass on Crappy reactors like those which caused Fukushima.

My advice to India. Stick to Russian stuff.Tried and tested ,plus Russia gives guarantees ,unlike USA which weasels its ways out and has an excellent PR(public relations propaganda) capability.

 

[Abhishek_]

the level of naivete on display by the indian members is astounding.

makes the tag of cheerleading quite appropriate :facepalm:

 

[Indianpatriot1]

Fukushima was the result of an american GE reactor . Look at it Today,still spewing radioactive debris and in a position of uncontrolled meltdown . The soviet RBMK's were much better than this ,look at chernobyl brought in control in less than a week .

Not a wonder that USA wants no liability so that it can pass on Crappy reactors like those which caused Fukushima.

My advice to India. Stick to Russian stuff.Tried and tested ,plus Russia gives guarantees ,unlike USA which weasels its ways out and has an excellent PR(public relations propaganda) capability.

Not while Congress is in power. The entire Zing Bang from World Bank has been parachuted into the top policy positions of Indian Government - MMS, Montek, Chiddu and a host of economic advisers including the latest Raghuram Rajan. Russia is always far reliable and stands by its friends unlike the use-and -throw US. India should, in this case, get advise from Pak who have been through it all and are seeing their country reduced to a lawless battlefield before it finally disintegrates.

 

[kaykay]

Americans Must prove their friendship by selling 3 - 4 NIMITZ CLASS AC to India
Time to Prove Back your Claim AMERICA )

lols seriously?? You want Indian navy to spend it's entire $6-7 Billion annual budget to just operate 2-3 Nimitz class super carriers?? You need several Billions of dollars every year to just operate one of them.

 

[Lostsoldier]

never forget history
role of usa in 65,71 and kargil
step ur feet with caution
results may be catastrophic

 

[BLING]

lols seriously?? You want Indian navy to spend it's entire $6-7 Billion annual budget to just operate 2-3 Nimitz class super carriers?? You need several Billions of dollars every year to just operate one of them.

We need allocate more funds ... We need to spend atleast 6% of GDP ! atleast for next 10 years ...We are not facing Pakistan any more which can be handled with 2-3% of GDP .. Its China and Pakistan combained threat is not just a wet dream anymore . They will attack India Any time soon ! And do u think Akula and Viki is cheaper to maintain or what ? LOL

never forget history
role of usa in 65,71 and kargil
step ur feet with caution
results may be catastrophic

It is not 65 or 71 . India is a neutral power . It can gain from all sides . We need to learn about American's Tech and Russian Production rate ! We must be cautioned for sure !

 

[Nisha]

Back to square one. One wonders if the two broad divisions present in the production process of any such equipment are known- and if so then exactly what "ToT" shall be imparted. There is this daft notion that ToT facilitates R&D growth and capacities that can be retrenched into subsequent projects- no it can't, given that most ToT is actually M-ToT. Secondly, no one is jointly developing the Javelin, its warhead shall be optimized for high altitude operations jointly and the system might take on a different name, nothing more and nothing less. The only relief here is that CISMOA might be worked around. Brain dead journos reaching the wrong conclusion even after having quoted Carter's exact words. Cooperation will go up, but its not the sort of cooperation (neither in terms of quantum or depth) that people think it is. Although floor level management practices and process streamlining would be important lessons that can be accrued if one is willing. No transfer of know-how is going to occur albeit transfer of know-why might occur if systems are assembled in country.

I seriously doubt you know what they discussed in these highly secure meetings. Im sure the US-India collaboratin will become better as time goes by. ust wait and watch....but India needs to show it is a friend not a foe.