US Navy sailors captured by Iranian Navy , then released [Video]

[Aepsilons]

How embarrassing for the US Navy.

 

[Aepsilons]

@Serpentine @SALMAN AL-FARSI @Daneshmand , brothers, is there any Iranian press explanation in this situation? What was the cause? Seems like this was an inhibited issue in the press here in the US. There's also not much information on this in Japanese media, perhaps you can shed some light for me?

Thanks, guys.

 

[Desert Fox]

How embarrassing for the US Navy.

Wtf, is this recent? I hope they're alright and return safely.

 

[Daneshmand]

Except for self-congratulation and self-appreciation, there was not much in Iranian press. Certainly not much analysis and most of the press excluding the hardliners, were careful not to stoke patriotic feelings of the nation or suggesting that the nation was under attack. Quite contrary, the incident was reported in the light of how compassionate and forgiving Iranian culture is etc.

Here is just a non-serious rambling I wrote in reply to a respected poster's question, if you care to know: Breaking: Iran detains U.S navy soldiers entering Iranian territorial waters | Page 9

By the way, democrats also benefited hugely from this. They let Republicans make a fool out of themselves over this incidence in the media, and then the incidence fizzled as if Iran was a long lost buddy of US, and Kerry came out a hero who just has to make a phone call to fix any international problem.

Wtf, is this recent? I hope they're alright and return safely.

They are safe and sound. They are now being "debriefed" by American interrogators. Don't worry about their health so much or your worry will impact your own health.

 

[Aepsilons]

Wtf, is this recent? I hope they're alright and return safely.

Yes, it happened recently. Apparently this was blocked until Obama gave his last SONA (state of the nation address). How very poorly , poorly handled , given that the two rcbs were left unaided. At least it is important to note that the soldiers were given shelter and treated cordial demeanor according to Islamic Law.

The United States has since then apologized for the gaffe.

By the way, democrats also benefited hugely from this. They let Republicans make a fool out of themselves over this incident in the media, and then the incident fizzled as if Iran was a long lost buddy of US, and Kerry came out a hero who just has to make a phone call to fix any international problem.

What I'm getting from Japanese defense forums is that these rcbs were actually captured by Iranian Navy after they were (they were actually part of a multiple USN operation) in trying to intercept Iranian resupply to Houthi rebels in Yemen. As you may or may not know (but i think you know, lol), the USN is now aiding the KSA in its campaign in Yemen, by indirectly inhibiting resupply missions conducted by the Iranian Navy.

I've some friends in JMSDF stationed in Djibouti , the US navy personnel have been talking about that for quite some time, anyways.

My guess is that these 2 rcbs entered too deep into Iranian waters, and were under the sights of Iranian Navy guns, either surrender or resist and be shot. My gut instinct is leading me to lean towards the first.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Yes, it happened recently. Apparently this was blocked until Obama gave his last SONA (state of the nation address).

Nope, the Pentagon alerted the AP at 3:59PM yesterday

Pentagon: 2 Navy boats in Iranian custody but Iran tells US that crew will be returned 'promptly'

Even Serpentine quoted it.

 

[CHD]

How embarrassing for the US Navy.

Just for your info this is a propaganda channel, yesterday they made a video saying Raheel shariff threatend to nuke Iran.

 

[Daneshmand]

Yes, it happened recently. Apparently this was blocked until Obama gave his last SONA (state of the nation address). How very poorly , poorly handled , given that the two rcbs were left unaided. At least it is important to note that the soldiers were given shelter and treated cordial demeanor according to Islamic Law.

The United States has since then apologized for the gaffe.



What I'm getting from Japanese defense forums is that these rcbs were actually captured by Iranian Navy after they were (they were actually part of a multiple USN operation) in trying to intercept Iranian resupply to Houthi rebels in Yemen. As you may or may not know (but i think you know, lol), the USN is now aiding the KSA in its campaign in Yemen, by indirectly inhibiting resupply missions conducted by the Iranian Navy.

I've some friends in JMSDF stationed in Djibouti , the US navy personnel have been talking about that for quite some time, anyways.

My guess is that these 2 rcbs entered too deep into Iranian waters, and were under the sights of Iranian Navy guns, either surrender or resist and be shot. My gut instinct is leading me to lean towards the first.

It is possible.

But I do not think Iran is that much interested in resupplying Houthis since Houthis are sitting on top of ammo depots of Yemeni army which will last them years. They are ferocious fighters and do not need Iran's day to day attention and pampering to keep their heads above water. And any resupply if Iran chooses to do so, will not be from Persian Gulf but through Oman sea for logistical reasons (and even probably through Oman, a country which has been an Iranian ally in all but name). There is no evidence Iran has done this, though. At least of late.

But there is a bigger picture here. I believe US is trying to re-align its foreign policy with regard to middle east. For decades now US strategic policy has been the containment of Iran. There are some indications that US is about to disengage from middle east in relative terms and the policy of containment of Iran is about to end. What policy US is formulating to replace the current one is not yet public, but it better respect Iran's rights and might or it will fail as the previous policy did.

The biggest losers here are those who have been benefiting from the status quo eg Saudi Arabia and Israel and that is why you see so much antagonism on their part. But US is truly a gigantic independent power and when it sets its policies, then it really does not care about others and only sees its own interests. If I have to guess, I would say, US is embracing a multipolar world (till now US policy was based on sole super power model) in which US will strive to depend on old and tried model of "balance of powers" to keep itself aloft of the rest of the world and remain the world's most powerful pole.

This necessitates US to keep balance in its own foreign policy, and to abandon old allies whose alliances do less to keep US aloft in a multipolar world than US alliance with them, keeps these old allies aloft in their own region. That is why you see things US doing right now which are in such a direction, for example US might be "helping" Saudis in Yemen in tactical terms, but in reality US is drowning Saudis in sand in strategic terms. Unfortunately, Saudis will wake up to the game, US is playing too late and too short of breath to be able to save themselves.

Iran is clear-eyed about all that is happening and expects to be paid the dividends. Otherwise, things are going to turn ugly. Anyways that is my analysis in short. You never know how things will go in reality.

 

[oprih]

Lmao those american sailors look miserable.

 

[Tiqiu]

Dramatic video shows ten American sailors on their knees as they surrender to Iranian troops while their commander APOLOGIZES for trespassing in the Persian Gulf

Read more: Video shows US sailors surrender to Iranian troops in the Persian Gulf | Daily Mail Online

HaHa, in next blockbuster Hollywood has to work very hard to make a twist about this.

 

[Aepsilons]

Dramatic video shows ten American sailors on their knees as they surrender to Iranian troops while their commander APOLOGIZES for trespassing in the Persian Gulf

Read more: Video shows US sailors surrender to Iranian troops in the Persian Gulf | Daily Mail Online

HaHa, in next blockbuster Hollywood has to work very hard to make a twist about this.

Seeing American personnel kneeling that that...hmmm...

 

[Tiqiu]

That photo tells a thousand words. But I can't post it because it will be deleted. However, I have a feeling it will get circulated around and resurfaced again and again like other great photos.

 

[United]

Farsi island is an IRGC base, an island with no population except military Not even Iranian citizens are allowed
it houses one of Iranian major natural resource

any incident in this region can easily shoot oil prices well beyond $100 barrel

 

[Schutz]

Seeing American personnel kneeling that that...hmmm...

Well there not going to start a fight are they, any nation that sails into another space uninvited will be detained, its happened to pretty much every nation, military or civilian. Last week Denmark had the crew of a Russian cargo ship detained because they were drunk haha.

 

[Aepsilons]

Well there not going to start a fight are they, any nation that sails into another space uninvited will be detained, its happened to pretty much every nation, military or civilian. Last week Denmark had the crew of a Russian cargo ship detained because they were drunk haha.

There is a difference between a crew of a cargo ship, compared to sailors / military men of national navy.

A significant difference, my friend.