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Why do Americans live better than anyone. The answer suggests itself. Americans are the most talented nation.
Who are the answer does not satisfy read further. We compare the history of the two major global players of the XX century. (Russia and the U.S.).

1. The First World War.

a) Russia would enter the war at its very beginning. Has the longest edge (with all three empires). Distracts from the western front half of the German army and the main forces of Austria-Hungary and Turkey.
Goals that are reached Russia.

1) almost completely destroyed the army of Austria-Hungary (to save an ally of Germany was forced to flip the troops from the western to the eastern front)

2) Russia has caused a number of sensitive lesions of Turkey (Erzurum Russian troops seized a key point of defense Turk. This allowed to intrude into the Turkish territory. The Russian Navy has achieved dominance in the Black Sea. Preparing for amphibious operation to seize the Straits and Istanbul.

3) Russia diverted to one half of German troops on its front. It is not once saved the Allies on the western front.

Outcome. Russia lost the First World War about 10 million people (direct and indirect losses). The army has lost 3.3 million people were killed.
The First World War in Russia, flows into civil war. Officially ends in 1924. Russia loses more of 8-13 million (killed + immigrants + major losses from epidemics of cholera and typhoid as a result of the war).
"Stalin's purges 30's are the continuation of civil war. Russia loses a few million people. Add to the overall casualties destruction of the vast majority of industrial facilities and the loss of professionals. Now imagine what exertion required to Russia. In order for a dozen years.

1) to build an industrial base from scratch (which is the second world war was able to compete with the united Hitler European industry).
2) Prepare professionals in such a short time.

b) Actions by the United States.

1) U.S. much of the war neutrality. Earning money, as the Allies, and on the Triple Alliance.

2) When both sides exhausted. Americans (white horse) went to war. And once "invincible American troops" broke his neck bled dry the German army.
Outcome. As a result of the Second World War. U.S. turned from a second-rate country in one of the world leaders. Military orders were allowed to develop the industry. The armed forces have evolved (in particular the navy).

2. The Second World War.

a) Not having fully recovered from previous wars. USSR gets a new war.

Course of action.

1) Russia almost single-handedly destroys the bulk of German forces and their satellites.

2) Russia destroys the main Japanese forces of the continent (the Kwantung Army)
Features. In the course of the war. Russia was forced to keep large military forces on the borders of potential adversaries. In some cases, even to occupy some territory (Japanese troops in China, Turkey, Iran).

The outcome of the war.

1) More than 20 million dead. Army lost at the last count (on the battlefield and from the wounds), about 7.7 million people.

2) Most of the industrial and agricultural facilities were destroyed.

b) the United States during World War II.

Course of action.

1) America is at war with Japan (with all due respect to the U.S. victory. Japan was the weakest member of the axis. As confirmed by the Soviet army Hasan, Khalkhin Gol, Manchuria and Korea.
Comparison of losses on the Eastern and Pacific fronts will be more eloquent).

2) In Europe, the U.S. again in no hurry to fight. Much more profitable to engage in military supplies. Military aid was paid as a raw material and gold. As a result of U.S. actions have become a major holder of gold reserves. Even if not paid. U.S. loses nothing. Implementation of defense contracts allow you to download (promote) industry.

3) When on the eastern front, was destroyed by the bulk of German forces. United States as before (on a white horse) came into the world division.

Outcome.

1) the U.S. was the only country who knew how to get rich on the Second World War.

2) Most of the competitors on the U.S. world leadership (France and Britain) had lost its power. This allowed the U.S. to capture new markets and raw materials.

3. The Cold War.
Immediately after the Second World War for Russia began a new confrontation.
Question. Russia needed this confrontation?. After losing the first half of XX century, the population is comparable to France or Britain. Stimulated twice in a short time to rebuild the economy.
Conclusions.
Before comparing the living standards of countries. Must take into account the conditions of those countries. Russian elementary overstrained. Every citizen had to make tremendous efforts. Denying themselves of many things. When the forces ended the Soviet Union ceased to exist.

I compared the U.S. and Russia. Many people can make the same comparison. Such as China where the situation was similar. North Korea lives worse, not because there is communism. Everything is much simpler. This situation is similar to the FRG and the GDR. Germany is the main sponsor of the United States. The main sponsor of the GDR is the USSR. Ask a basic question. Who has more capital to start?
 
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You can brag about WWII the Russian bore the brunt of the fighting but WWI was incompetently fought.
 
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You can brag about WWII the Russian bore the brunt of the fighting but WWI was incompetently fought.


Russia has made a major contribution to the victory of the Allies. If Russia had declared its neutrality. Germany would be able to put on the Western Front twice as many troops. (This could well be enough to win). Add Army of Austria-Hungary and Turkey. Free Turkish troops without fear of Russia. Could strike in the direction of North Africa. Russia's role is clearly undervalued.
1. Allies. (USSR became their enemy).
2. Soviet historiography (most of the generals of the Russian Imperial Army. Fought against the Red Guards. Kornilov, Denikin, Wrangel and others).
Only now beginning to explore this topic.
 
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Russia has made a major contribution to the victory of the Allies. If Russia had declared its neutrality. Germany would be able to put on the Western Front twice as many troops. (This could well be enough to win).

German did move all of its Eastern front troops to the west.

The 1918 German Spring Offensive

The 1918 Spring Offensive or Kaiserschlacht, also known as the Ludendorff Offensive, was a series of German attacks along the Western Front during World War I, which marked the deepest advances by either side since 1914. The Germans had realised that their only remaining chance of victory was to defeat the Allies before the overwhelming human and matériel resources of the United States could be deployed. They also had the temporary advantage in numbers afforded by nearly 50 divisions freed by the Russian surrender (Treaty of Brest-Litovsk).


Again I admire and respect the Russian contribution to WWII but you're talking none-sense about WWI.
 
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your wrong on that account! The U.S. had a stealth drone (RQ-170) doing long term surviellence over OBL hideout for months. Pakistan never even knew it was there.

Report: CIA Used New Stealth Drones to Monitor Bin Laden's Compound in Pakistan - FoxNews.com

"In order to survey the compound where Usama bin Laden was hiding, the CIA used a new type of stealth drone to fly dozens of missions into Pakistani airspace undetected, The Washington Post reported Tuesday."

& we must believe over NYT report when there is no other authentic source verifying that RQ-170 made surveillance undetected? Media usually free for conspiracies.
 
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German did move all of its Eastern front troops to the west.

The 1918 German Spring Offensive




Again I admire and respect the Russian contribution to WWII but you're talking none-sense about WWI.


1. In the battle of the Marne, September 5-12. Decided the fate of Paris. And perhaps the entire war. Not difficult to guess the consequences of the fall of Paris. At the critical moment the Russian army pulled over 80,000 German soldiers.
2. Brusilovsky breakthrough. Breakthrough the fortified lines of the Austro-Hungarian troops. Loss of -0.7 million Russian, Austro-Hungary -1.5 million people. Central Powers were forced to use against Russian South-Western Front in 34 the division. This allowed us to cope with the problem of Verdun and conduct an offensive on the River Somme.
As I said earlier. Do not forget that Russia itself blocked and destroyed a considerable part of Austria-Hungary and Turkey. A few extra million Austrian and German soldiers on the western front? Free actions of the Turkish army?
German forces to the western front after Russia's withdrawal from the war. Did not matter. Germany and its allies have been depleted. Several million (killed, injured or taken prisoner) is not much they could not move. Russia's contribution to this situation can be estimated as (Moor has done his job. Moor can go).
Russia's contribution to the war -45%.
France -35%
Western and eastern fronts (World War) were equivalent. Some people forget this or do not know.

Wikipedia we are with you and can write themselves.
 
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*I'm taking note here*

Money = Right

and besides history doesn't judge. It doesn't have human qualities, people see in it what they want.

No, prosperity is the key, not simply wealth.
 
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