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US Navy base in Bahrain would be ‘razed to ground’ by retaliatory Iranian missiles - MP

US Navy base in Bahrain would be ‘razed to ground’ by retaliatory Iranian missiles - MP
https://www.rt.com/news/376433-us-base-bahrain-iran/

If Iran were attacked, it would retaliate against the US Navy base in Bahrain as well as Israel, a senior Iranian MP warned. It comes amid an escalation of tensions between Washington and Tehran over new anti-Iranian sanctions imposed by the US.
“The US Army's [sic] Fifth Fleet has occupied a part of Bahrain, and the enemy's farthest military base is in the Indian Ocean, but these points are all within the range of Iran's missile systems and they will be razed to the ground if the enemy makes a mistake,” Mojtaba Zonour, a member of the National Security and Foreign Policy Commission of the Iranian parliament, said on Saturday evening as cited by the semi-state news agency FARS.
Zonour, a former senior figure in the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps, added that Iranian missiles would also attack Israel in case of an open war.

“Only seven minutes is needed for the Iranian missile to hit Tel Aviv,” he said.

The belligerent rhetoric comes after a heated exchange of hostile gestures by Washington and Tehran last week. On Friday, the Trump administration slapped sanctions on 25 individuals and entities allegedly involved in Iranian ballistic missile development.

The move is viewed by many observers as an opening salvo in an expected anti-Iranian campaign by US President Donald Trump, who said Iran was “playing with fire” by testing their missiles and had been “put on notice” by the White House.
The Iranian government responded with defiance, with Foreign Minister Javad Zarif stating that his country's was “unmoved by threats” from Washington. The Iranian military conducted as planned military exercise in the Semnan Province on Saturday, testing its new radar and missile capabilities.

On Sunday, Trump upped the ante, calling Iran the “number one terrorist state” in an interview with Fox News. The designation followed a similar comment by his Pentagon chief James Mattis. The US president also reiterated his criticism of a nuclear deal with Iran, but would not go as far as pledging to scrap it.

Trump was among Republican critics of the Obama administration’s willingness to negotiate the deal with Iran, which lifted economic sanctions in exchange for placing restrictions on Iranian nuclear industry aimed at preventing its capability to create a nuclear weapon.

The 2015 agreement was sponsored by world leading powers hailed internationally as a breakthrough. Israel’s government repeatedly criticized it, calling it a “bad deal,” but failed to derail it.
Sometime these type of statements seize to amaze me. These statements serve no purpsoe..... But RT also famous adding garam masala in the news.
 
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Let him be, he probably missed the entrie ww2 section of history..

1. Iran doesn't have nuclear warheads, thus MIRV is ineffective and practically useless against buildings (Israeli buildings are built to withstand direct impact of missiles)
2. Israel has the David's Sling, Arrow 2 and Arrow 3 to shoot down the missile before the MIRV depart.


THAAD and Aegis, my friend.
Thaad and aegis, thaad and aegies blah blah, fairies on my dick, do u think the us and its allies and the little puddle of shit u call israel can take on pakistan,russia, china and iran combined??, only one end son, utter destruction on all sides, no other scenario, any attack on iran would be the end of human civilization period,
 
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1. Iran doesn't have nuclear warheads, thus MIRV is ineffective and practically useless against buildings (Israeli buildings are built to withstand direct impact of missiles)
2. Israel has the David's Sling, Arrow 2 and Arrow 3 to shoot down the missile before the MIRV depart.


THAAD and Aegis, my friend.
There is no missile defense system of Iran and Israel that can detect missile in first 5/6 seconds of its launch and if an MIRV capable ballistic missile isn't dectected in initially than it will be very difficult to destroy
With terminal speeds of over 5,000 m/s, ballistic missiles are much harder to intercept n if they are mirv than its almost impossible no matter what type of SAM you have
And I don't know that iran or Israel have MIRV capable missiles

Let me tell you ine thing, any war involving israel will surely drag pakistan in, iran maybe a walkover for israel but pakistan can lay devastation to ur tiny little smudge both conventionally and unconventionally and if the Us gets involved than its all out ww3 because russia will surely jump in, thr russians didnt allow the americans hegemony over syria, do u think they would allow the Us to attack iran??
Why will Pakistan jump in?
 
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She does make good points, I agree. But she is surly pro-Iran although she tries to hide it.
Eventhough I agree she seems to be, but then again so what? I see nothing wrong in that. Everybody have their preferences.:)
What matters is the rational points they make which we shouldn't overlook.:)
 
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There is no missile defense system of Iran and Israel that can detect missile in first 5/6 seconds of its launch and if an MIRV capable ballistic missile isn't dectected in initially than it will be very difficult to destroy
With terminal speeds of over 5,000 m/s, ballistic missiles are much harder to intercept n if they are mirv than its almost impossible no matter what type of SAM you have
And I don't know that iran or Israel have MIRV capable missiles


Why will Pakistan jump in?
Trust me when israel gets out of its boundry, the pakistani war machine will start rolling, its a centre piece of our military strategy, israel is considered by army as more of a threat than india..
 
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do u think the us and its allies and the little puddle of shit u call israel can take on pakistan,russia, china and iran combined??, only one end son, utter destruction on all sides, no other scenario, any attack on iran would be the end of human civilization period,
What has Israel/U.S- Iran issues got to do with Russia, China and even Pakistan?o_O:o:
Old boy people here really need to calm down. :lol:
 
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What has Israel/U.S- Iran issues got to do with Russia, China and even Pakistan?o_O:o:
Old boy people here really need to calm down. :lol:
For fucks sake man, if the Us/israel attack iran, it would've everthing to do with russia and pakistan, do i really need to explian geopolitics to u?? Have a deep breath and learn to condemn the Us for having a go at any.country that disagrees with them, who told them to.play god??

What has Israel/U.S- Iran issues got to do with Russia, China and even Pakistan?o_O:o:
Old boy people here really need to calm down. :lol:
Lol and loved the "old boy", the britts dont say that enough anymore
 
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Eventhough I agree she seems to be, but then again so what? I see nothing wrong in that. Everybody have their preferences.:)
What matters is the rational points they make which we shouldn't overlook.:)

It matters actually in a way because in Kuwait, the majority of people aren't pro-Iran - especially in the current situation of the Middle East. So Kuwaits in general know that their country is too small, and they can't take the risk of being too naive and optimistic about Iran's ongoing proxy expansionism. There is also this ancient dislike towards Persians no matter what they do. The exception to this is Kuwait's Shias as they do have a positive feeling about Iran and Iranians.
 
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And Israel will smoke.
Russia has made a deal otherwise you could see Iran's real face by now. Some time is needed to satisfy Russia to turn a blind eye on your crushed skulls. Death of uncle Sam is so close Israeli trash.
Iranian commander says there are 100,000 missiles ready to strike Israel
Israel will smoke soon inshallah
You smoke some weird stuff. Warmonger.

Just wow. The amount of stupid people be it from Iran, Israel or Arabian countries is just way too high.
 
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You smoke some weird stuff. Warmonger.

Just wow. The amount of stupid people be it from Iran, Israel or Arabian countries is just way too high.
They also make me laugh. Just reading some comments here is hilarious. :rofl:. That's why I love PDF, it's so much fun. Keeps me coming for more. :lol:

For fucks sake man, if the Us/israel attack iran, it would've everthing to do with russia and pakistan, do i really need to explian geopolitics to u?? Have a deep breath and learn to condemn the Us for having a go at any.country that disagrees with them, who told them to.play god??
Really ?? Pakistan will go to war with U.S/ISRAEL if Iran is attacked??? Really?? Have you finished taking 'your' Kashmir territory from India?:lol: I don't see anybody helping you there. Pakistan doesn't feature at all in Arab/Israel/Iran issues to be honest. You are in south Asia . Pakistan is the last country one will think about when it's comes to a hypothetical(never going to happen anyway) Israel-Iran war I'm afraid . The Arabs maybe yes , but Pakistan isn't Arab or Persian, it's issues lies in south Asia and there your hands are more than a full with India unfortunately. :sick:
 
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There won't be any attack on Iran by USA Or On Israel by Iran
N if there is one than Pakistan won't allow it's land for American use n It won't allow any disturbance in Its economic zones like gawadar etc
And I'm sure China won't stay silent seeing it's huge investment getting burned by aggression of USA
I don't have much knowledge about Russian Iran relationship but what I saw on media it clearly explains that they are allies I don't see Russia ignoring the USA invasion against Iran
It won't be easy for USA they need a very strong reason to attack Iran n till today there is not a single reason
 
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They also make me laugh. Just reading some comments here is hilarious. :rofl:. That's why I love PDF, it's so much fun. Keeps me coming for more. :lol:


Really ?? Pakistan will go to war with U.S/ISRAEL if Iran is attacked??? Really?? Have you finished taking 'your' Kashmir territory from India?:lol: I don't see anybody helping you there. Pakistan doesn't feature at all in Arab/Israel/Iran issues to be honest. You are in south Asia . Pakistan is the last country one will think about when it's comes to a hypothetical(never going to happen anyway) Israel-Iran war I'm afraid . The Arabs maybe yes , but Pakistan isn't Arab or Persian, it's issues lies in south Asia and there your hands are more than a full with India unfortunately. :sick:
Phewww!!n i guess im at fault here cause i shouldnt have started an argument with a 2 yr old with zero knowledge in geo politics, sorry but i just dont have the patience to explain abc.to a kid, really werent the teacher material ever, good luck..
 
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You miss the point, In the event of a nuclear war, Israel's enemies would turn into dust, how could you invade Israel, if your country was nuked? Or your army? Israel has nuclear armed submarines right next to Iran, you wouldn't be able to fire more than a few missiles until Tehran would burn.

Talking about invading Israel, trough who will you invade Israel? Do you actually think you can supply and maintain logistics for millions of soldiers, far away from your own country and infrastructure? and do you think we will fight a war of attrition with you, even if you somehow will be able to field your troops nearby Israel?

Israel is stronger than Iran conventionally and unconventionally.

Again, HOW CAN YOU COUNTERMEASURE AFTER YOU ARE DEAD?
You're not being realistic.

Israel will never fight a nuclear war against Iran because it will backfire badly on Israel's own existence/survival.

First of all, no Muslim power will allow Israel to nuke Iran. You might as well forget about garnering such support. Even if Israel gets the tacit approval of the pathetic Gulf states for a nuclear attack on Iran, which I highly doubt will ever occur since not even the Gulf states can stoop this low, you can bet your bottom dollar that major Muslim military powers such as Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan will be vehemently against it.

An Israeli nuclear attack on Iran will alarm the entire Muslim World. The leaders and citizens of Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia and many other Muslim-majority countries will fear that it will set a bad precedent for the Israeli army and other non-Muslim armies to use nuclear weapons or other kinds of weapons of mass destruction in future conflicts between Muslim states and non-Muslim states. The vast majority of Muslims outside Iran will assume that Israel will not hesitate using nukes against them as well in future conflicts, therefore this kind of lunacy will simply initiate a huge nuclear arms race that will lead to nuclear proliferation across the entire Muslim World. Countries such as Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia and even the Gulf states will begin to pursue nuclear weapons in order to deter Israel from ever attacking them in the unforeseeable future.

Simply put, an Israeli nuclear attack on Iran is against the geopolitical and economic interests of all Muslim-majority states, including the Gulf states that are passionately anti-Iranian. In fact, this kind of an attack will lead to another global economic recession, so in reality it doesn't benefit anyone around the world. No one will allow the situation to go that far, not even Donald Trump. And should Donald Trump ever go that far, you can rest assured that he will be assassinated by his own intelligence agencies. There are many limits and red lines in politics. The Americans aren't going to risk starting a mutually destructive thermonuclear world war for the sake of teeny-weeny Israel. There's no telling how nuclear-armed global powers such as Russia and China would react if Israel ever dares to cross the boundaries of international law and diplomacy.

Another consequence of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iran is a very likely regional military response by nearby Muslim countries. Turkey will not sit idly by and watch Iran get destroyed by Israeli nukes. Any kind of societal collapse in Iran will inevitably spill over into Turkey and undermine that country's territorial integrity. The Turks will take it upon themselves to intervene against Israel in one form or another, either by directly attacking a limited number of targets in Israel in order to neutralize the Israeli air force or by quietly arming the Iranian military with NATO weapons in order to give it the ability to strike back at Israel. Speaking of which, even Pakistan might quietly/secretly give a couple of nuclear warheads to the Iranians in this kind of situation.

In short, don't expect a quiet Muslim World if Iran gets attacked. The Sunni versus Shia cold war will end abruptly if Israel uses nukes against any Muslim country, Iran or otherwise. Many geopolitical calculations will change dramatically and spontaneously, and countries that were once friendly with Israel might suddenly change their stance. Israel will foolishly create an environment of unpredictability that will put the country at a greater risk of being wiped out.

So many opportunistic groups will take advantage of the situation to morally justify a war on Israel. Arab nationalists will use it as a golden opportunity to increase the funding and arming of Palestinian nationalist movements. Islamist groups aligned with Turkey and Iran will use the situation as a golden opportunity to increase their attacks on Israel. Even Israel's Western friends will be locally and externally pressured to move away from Israel in order to prevent the situation from getting worse and escalating into a global war. Israel's actions will run contrary to internationally-accepted rules of engagement. The consequences of this kind of decision will be far-reaching and dire for the Israelis.

Hopefully you now realize how unrealistic your argument was.

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As I've said before, Israel can win against Iran in two ways:

1. It can continue to covertly fight a proxy war against the Iranians by quietly supporting anti-Iranian groups both inside and outside Iran. For example, it can quietly support Kurdish and Balochi separatists in Iran, and it can also support the Iraqi and Syrian Kurds in order to use them as a counterweight against Iranian expansionism in the Fertile Crescent.

2. In the worst possible case, it can fight a very limited conventional war against Iran in order to swiftly achieve a number of short-term military objectives. This kind of confrontation will likely take place somewhere near the Golan Heights, and it is contingent on Iran carrying out the first attack. In this case, Israel can respond to a hypothetical Iranian attack on the Golan Heights by successfully neutralizing the Iranian threat near its borders. In this kind of conventional military confrontation, Israel will naturally have the upper hand by virtue of its superior military technology. Israeli jets will without a doubt fare better against Iranian jets, and Israeli tanks will no doubt be more effective than their Iranian counterparts. Having said that, the likelihood of a limited conventional war initiated by Iran is very, very slim. Iran knows its military is technologically weaker, therefore it's not stupid enough to fight conventionally against Israel. Iran will most likely fight an asymmetric/irregular war, which is what it's best at. But should Iran ever start a conventional war against Israel, then Israel can definitely win due to its technological superiority.

Apart from these two scenarios, there's no other way Israel can win. Israel cannot win by resorting to an excessive show of force as that would border on becoming an unconventional war. Anything excessive and non-conventional will bring about a very harsh, irregular/asymmetric response from Iran.

You have to be pragmatic.

Both Iran and Israel are capable of achieving victory against each other, but it will all depend on how the war is fought.
 
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Yes and than so will the Us after retaliatory strikes by russia, wake up beta..
And why would Russia attack US for Iran?

Trust me when israel gets out of its boundry, the pakistani war machine will start rolling, its a centre piece of our military strategy, israel is considered by army as more of a threat than india..
No, it won't.

Pakistan Army has the mandate to protect Pakistani territory and its overseas commitment is limited to protection of Mecca and Medina only. Nothing else.

Pakistan will stay away from conflicts in the Middle East.

You're not being realistic.

Israel will never fight a nuclear war against Iran because it will backfire badly on Israel's own existence/survival.

First of all, no Muslim power will allow Israel to nuke Iran. You might as well forget about garnering such support. Even if Israel gets the tacit approval of the pathetic Gulf states for a nuclear attack on Iran, which I highly doubt will ever occur since not even the Gulf states can stoop this low, you can bet your bottom dollar that major Muslim military powers such as Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan will be vehemently against it.

An Israeli nuclear attack on Iran will alarm the entire Muslim World. The leaders and citizens of Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia and many other Muslim-majority countries will fear that it will set a bad precedent for the Israeli army and other non-Muslim armies to use nuclear weapons or other kinds of weapons of mass destruction in future conflicts between Muslim states and non-Muslim states. The vast majority of Muslims outside Iran will assume that Israel will not hesitate using nukes against them as well in future conflicts, therefore this kind of lunacy will simply initiate a huge nuclear arms race that will lead to nuclear proliferation across the entire Muslim World. Countries such as Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia and even the Gulf states will begin to pursue nuclear weapons in order to deter Israel from ever attacking them in the unforeseeable future.

Simply put, an Israeli nuclear attack on Iran is against the geopolitical and economic interests of all Muslim-majority states, including the Gulf states that are passionately anti-Iranian. In fact, this kind of an attack will lead to another global economic recession, so in reality it doesn't benefit anyone around the world. No one will allow the situation to go that far, not even Donald Trump. And should Donald Trump ever go that far, you can rest assured that he will be assassinated by his own intelligence agencies. There are many limits and red lines in politics. The Americans aren't going to risk starting a mutually destructive thermonuclear world war for the sake of teeny-weeny Israel. There's no telling how nuclear-armed global powers such as Russia and China would react if Israel ever dares to cross the boundaries of international law and diplomacy.

Another consequence of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iran is a very likely regional military response by nearby Muslim countries. Turkey will not sit idly by and watch Iran get destroyed by Israeli nukes. Any kind of societal collapse in Iran will inevitably spill over into Turkey and undermine that country's territorial integrity. The Turks will take it upon themselves to intervene against Israel in one form or another, either by directly attacking a limited number of targets in Israel in order to neutralize the Israeli air force or by quietly arming the Iranian military with NATO weapons in order to give it the ability to strike back at Israel. Speaking of which, even Pakistan might quietly/secretly give a couple of nuclear warheads to the Iranians in this kind of situation.

In short, don't expect a quiet Muslim World if Iran gets attacked. The Sunni versus Shia cold war will end abruptly if Israel uses nukes against any Muslim country, Iran or otherwise. Many geopolitical calculations will change dramatically and spontaneously, and countries that were once friendly with Israel might suddenly change their stance. Israel will foolishly create an environment of unpredictability that will put the country at a greater risk of being wiped out.

So many opportunistic groups will take advantage of the situation to morally justify a war on Israel. Arab nationalists will use it as a golden opportunity to increase the funding and arming of Palestinian nationalist movements. Islamist groups aligned with Turkey and Iran will use the situation as a golden opportunity to increase their attacks on Israel. Even Israel's Western friends will be locally and externally pressured to move away from Israel in order to prevent the situation from getting worse and escalating into a global war. Israel's actions will run contrary to internationally-accepted rules of engagement. The consequences of this kind of decision will be far-reaching and dire for the Israelis.

Hopefully you now realize how unrealistic your argument was.

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As I've said before, Israel can win against Iran in two ways:

1. It can continue to covertly fight a proxy war against the Iranians by quietly supporting anti-Iranian groups both inside and outside Iran. For example, it can quietly support Kurdish and Balochi separatists in Iran, and it can also support the Iraqi and Syrian Kurds in order to use them as a counterweight against Iranian expansionism in the Fertile Crescent.

2. In the worst possible case, it can fight a very limited conventional war against Iran in order to swiftly achieve a number of short-term military objectives. This kind of confrontation will likely take place somewhere near the Golan Heights, and it is contingent on Iran carrying out the first attack. In this case, Israel can respond to a hypothetical Iranian attack on the Golan Heights by successfully neutralizing the Iranian threat near its borders. In this kind of conventional military confrontation, Israel will naturally have the upper hand by virtue of its superior military technology. Israeli jets will without a doubt fare better against Iranian jets, and Israeli tanks will no doubt be more effective than their Iranian counterparts. Having said that, the likelihood of a limited conventional war initiated by Iran is very, very slim. Iran knows its military is technologically weaker, therefore it's not stupid enough to fight conventionally against Israel. Iran will most likely fight an asymmetric/irregular war, which is what it's best at. But should Iran ever start a conventional war against Israel, then Israel can definitely win due to its technological superiority.

Apart from these two scenarios, there's no other way Israel can win. Israel cannot win by resorting to an excessive show of force as that would border on becoming an unconventional war. Anything excessive and non-conventional will bring about a very harsh, irregular/asymmetric response from Iran.

You have to be pragmatic.

Both Iran and Israel are capable of achieving victory against each other, but it will all depend on how the war is fought.
Your strategic calculus doesn't takes into consideration the threshold of Israeli nuclear response. I don't think Israel would consider using nuclear weapons in a war unless a major city in Israel is raised to the ground or worse.

For the sake of argument, let us assume that Tel Aviv is raised to the ground. Do you think that Israel would find it difficult to use its nuclear weapons after that? It won't.

Also, nuclear weapons are not a joke. Current generations haven't witnessed the destructive power of a nuclear weapon in the battle. Even a single nuclear strike will send a chill down the spine of every state in the world and people will be crying for restraint.

In-fact, a development like that would give impetus to anti-nuclear drive worldwide and US will have the pretext to make sure that no state remains nuclear in the Middle East or even in South Asia. Heck, Russia and China will also find themselves in a quandary for this kind of situation.

And do not forget the dreaded Samson Option. Read about it.
 
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