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US military might have brought coronavirus to Wuhan China

I have been saying this for a long time. USA gains more by carrying out a biological terrorist attack on China. Its in the Americans blood to do such inhuman things. They gave used chemical weapons on civilians, white phosphorus on children, even in the early days, they killed the native Americans who helped them.

Already we are seeing so many cases of the virus coming out of USA. Celebrities, politicians, etc are being infected all over the place. Such a fast rate of infection would not happen just over night. It had to have happened long before, and now the cases are surfacing now that is has spread all over the country.

The story about bat spreading the virus was just a cover. Someone told me, people have been eating bats for couple of years now. If that's true, why was there no cases for years. In fact, the bats started to transmit the virus right around the time USA and China are in the middle of trade war.
 
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This coronavirus is super super smart, it hit China right before the Chinese new year when billions of Chinese people started moving around to go back to their homes to celebrate the Chinese new year, hence the virus was fully taking advantage of this once a year gold opportunity to use this world largest moving army to help it spread all over China.
 
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China should not be organizing this event again. Hopefully the lesson is learned although it cannot prevent bio warfare but still you do not want a repeat of this on this scale again.
 
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And US thinks we can't retaliate?
An eye for an eye. They want to play with biological weapon? We can let them have some fun too.

I have been saying this for a long time. USA gains more by carrying out a biological terrorist attack on China. Its in the Americans blood to do such inhuman things. They gave used chemical weapons on civilians, white phosphorus on children, even in the early days, they killed the native Americans who helped them.

Already we are seeing so many cases of the virus coming out of USA. Celebrities, politicians, etc are being infected all over the place. Such a fast rate of infection would not happen just over night. It had to have happened long before, and now the cases are surfacing now that is has spread all over the country.

The story about bat spreading the virus was just a cover. Someone told me, people have been eating bats for couple of years now. If that's true, why was there no cases for years. In fact, the bats started to transmit the virus right around the time USA and China are in the middle of trade war.
The despicable US media just want to use this an excuse to smear all Chinese.
 
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The origin of virus is not China and Iranians are also pointing fingers at USA. USA might be the first country where the out break started.

You want me to post Iranians statement as well. Not everyone is liar.

Spot on. USA are not testing for Corona. None. Looks like there is a big cover-up going on.

After so much research of billions of dollars why cannot the origin of virus be located in China?

As soon as the news about cases popping up more started to break in USA suddenly USA started to go dark on the virus data.

Secondly who is the point zero case in USA and why the origin of point zero case is not being made public as WHO guide says so that it helps globally to stop this threat.

I know USA is scared of losing its global status that is why it exported virus to Wuhan so that if USA declared first case all the economic hit would have been solely USA.

Why is USA hiding its data.



The virus is spreading domestically in USA and the question is that USA has kept its patient zero the very first patient hidden. Why? If that patient has no travel record to Wuhan then USA is origin. Plus USA evacuated few diplomats against WHO advice. Those diplomats went to Alaska not mainland USA but suddenly boom we started hearing in news that USA has coronavirus spreading domestically. Which is very strange.

Great post and insight.

US has such an awful healthcare system that they probably did have community transfer and thought it was the influenza. This is why the CDC Director said what he said. I believe the Americans are hiding the real numbers to calm their country. This is an election year and the regime wants to stay in power. This has spread to all parts of the US, in China this was contained to Wuhan most of the time.

Everything you said is spot on. There's a big cover-up going on. The economy is more important and election is around the corner. Officials didn't want a mass panic. How else do you explain an old white farmer in Umatilla, Oregon (the middle of nowhere) testing positive for corona? Zero contacts with anyone to and from China. It's been in the US going undetected as your common cold or flu.

The American financial markets are crashing, next their economy will crash because everything is shutting down. The COVID-19 spread is causing fear and panic as the US officials are too incompetent to deal with an emergency of this scale.

INCOMPETENT is not even the word, it's beyond that! Sad how much they've insulted others but are failing on all ends. We're not ready to take on this virus.
 
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In this fairy tale thread, here is my fairy tale

China has an aging population which it is believed will put a strain on their capabilities as they will now have to look after a lot of old people. So Xi had the idea of setting free a virus that had 10% mortality against the aged and 0.1% against the young. That would take care of the aging problem.

Unfortunately for him, the leaders in Wuhan were not informed and they quarantined Wuhan so Xi plan could not take off totally.
 
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China has an aging population which it is believed will put a strain on their capabilities as they will now have to look after a lot of old people. So Xi had the idea of setting free a virus that had 10% mortality against the aged and 0.1% against the young. That would take care of the aging problem.

Unfortunately for him, the leaders in Wuhan were not informed and they quarantined Wuhan so Xi plan could not take off totally.
LOL, this is a good one.
 
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COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US
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    Larry Romanoff
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  • Categories: English
  • Tags: CDC, China, coronavirus, COVID19, United States
It would be useful to read this prior article for background:

China’s Coronavirus: A Shocking Update. Did The Virus Originate in the US?

By Larry Romanoff, March 04, 2020

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As readers will recall from the earlier article (above), Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists and pharmacologists have determined that the new coronavirus almost certainly originated in the US since that country is the only one known to have all five types – from which all others must have descended. Wuhan in China has only one of those types, rendering it in analogy as a kind of “branch” which cannot exist by itself but must have grown from a “tree”.

The Taiwanese physician noted that in August of 2019 the US had a flurry of lung pneumonias or similar, which the Americans blamed on ‘vaping’ from e-cigarettes, but which, according to the scientist, the symptoms and conditions could not be explained by e-cigarettes. He said he wrote to the US officials telling them he suspected those deaths were likely due to the coronavirus. He claims his warnings were ignored.

Immediately prior to that, the CDC totally shut down the US Military’s main bio-lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland, due to an absence of safeguards against pathogen leakages, issuing a complete “cease and desist” order to the military. It was immediately after this event that the ‘e-cigarette’ epidemic arose.



Screenshot from The New York Times August 08, 2019

We also had the Japanese citizens infected in September of 2019, in Hawaii, people who had never been to China, these infections occurring on US soil long before the outbreak in Wuhan but only shortly after the locking down of Fort Detrick.

Then, on Chinese social media, another article appeared, aware of the above but presenting further details. It stated in part that five “foreign” athletes or other personnel visiting Wuhan for the World Military Games (October 18-27, 2019) were hospitalised in Wuhan for an undetermined infection.

The article explains more clearly that the Wuhan version of the virus could have come only from the US because it is what they call a “branch” which could not have been created first because it would have no ‘seed’. It would have to have been a new variety spun off the original ‘trunk’, and that trunk exists only in the US. (1)

There has been much public speculation that the coronavirus had been deliberately transmitted to China but, according to the Chinese article, a less sinister alternative is possible.

If some members of the US team at the World Military Games (18-27 October) had become infected by the virus from an accidental outbreak at Fort Detrick it is possible that, with a long initial incubation period, their symptoms might have been minor, and those individuals could easily have ‘toured’ the city of Wuhan during their stay, infecting potentially thousands of local residents in various locations, many of whom would later travel to the seafood market from which the virus would spread like wildfire (as it did).

That would account also for the practical impossibility of locating the legendary “patient zero” – which in this case has never been found since there would have been many of them.

Next, Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease expert at Georgetown University in Washington, said in an article in Science magazine that the first human infection has been confirmed as occurring in November 2019, (not in Wuhan), suggesting the virus originated elsewhere and then spread to the seafood markets. “One group put the origin of the outbreak as early as 18 September 2019.” (2) (3)

Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spreading globally.

Description of earliest cases suggests outbreak began elsewhere.

The article states:

“As confirmed cases of a novel virus surge around the world with worrisome speed, all eyes have so far focused on a seafood market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the outbreak. But a description of the first clinical cases published in The Lancet on Friday challenges that hypothesis.” (4) (5)

The paper, written by a large group of Chinese researchers from several institutions, offers details about the first 41 hospitalized patients who had confirmed infections with what has been dubbed 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

In the earliest case, the patient became ill on 1 December 2019 and had no reported link to the seafood market, the authors report. “No epidemiological link was found between the first patient and later cases”, they state. Their data also show that, in total, 13 of the 41 cases had no link to the marketplace. “That’s a big number, 13, with no link”, says Daniel Lucey . . . (6)

Earlier reports from Chinese health authorities and the World Health Organization had said the first patient had onset of symptoms on 8 December 2019 – and those reports simply said “most” cases had links to the seafood market, which was closed on 1 January. (7)

“Lucey says if the new data are accurate, the first human infections must have occurred in November 2019 – if not earlier – because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing. If so, the virus possibly spread silently between people in Wuhan – and perhaps elsewhere – before the cluster of cases from the city’s now-infamous Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market was discovered in late December. “The virus came into that marketplace before it came out of that marketplace”, Lucey asserts.

“China must have realized the epidemic did not originate in that Wuhan Huanan seafood market”, Lucey told Science Insider. (8)

Kristian Andersen is an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute who has analyzed sequences of 2019-nCoV to try to clarify its origin. He said the scenario was “entirely plausible” of infected persons bringing the virus into the seafood market from somewhere outside. According to the Science article,

“Andersen posted his analysis of 27 available genomes of 2019-nCoV on 25 January on a virology research website. It suggests they had a “most recent common ancestor” – meaning a common source – as early as 1 October 2019.” (9)

It was interesting that Lucey also noted that MERS was originally believed to have come from a patient in Saudi Arabia in June of 2012, but later and more thorough studies traced it back to an earlier hospital outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in Jordan in April of that year. Lucey said that from stored samples from people who died in Jordan, medical authorities confirmed they had been infected with the MERS virus. (10)

This would provide impetus for caution among the public in accepting the “official standard narrative” that the Western media are always so eager to provide – as they did with SARS, MERS, and ZIKA, all of which ‘official narratives’ were later proven to have been entirely wrong.

In this case, the Western media flooded their pages for months about the COVID-19 virus originating in the Wuhan seafood market, caused by people eating bats and wild animals. All of this has been proven wrong.

Not only did the virus not originate at the seafood market, it did not originate in Wuhan at all, and it has now been proven that it did not originate in China but was brought to China from another country. Part of the proof of this assertion is that the genome varieties of the virus in Iran and Italy have been sequenced and declared to have no part of the variety that infected China and must, by definition, have originated elsewhere.

It would seem the only possibility for origination is the US because only that country has the “tree trunk” of all the varieties. And it may therefore be true that the original source of the COVID-19 virus was the US military bio-warfare lab at Fort Detrick. This would not be a surprise, given that the CDC completely shut down Fort Detrick, but also because, as I related in an earlier article, between 2005 and 2012 the US had experienced 1,059 events where pathogens had been either stolen or escaped from American bio-labs during the prior ten years – an average of one every three days.

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Larry Romanoff is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held senior executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business. He has been a visiting professor at Shanghai’s Fudan University, presenting case studies in international affairs to senior EMBA classes. Mr. Romanoff lives in Shanghai and is currently writing a series of ten books generally related to China and the West. He can be contacted at: 2186604556@qq.com. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research.

Notes

(1) https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/CjGWaaDSKTyjWRMyQyGXUA

(2) https://science.sciencemag.org/content/367/6477/492.full

(3) Science; Jon Cohen; Jan. 26, 2020

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally

(4) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

(5) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

(6) http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2020011109036

(7) http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2020011509040

(8) https://sciencespeaksblog.org/2020/...-2019-ncov-qa-6-an-evidence-based-hypothesis/

(9) http://virological.org/t/clock-and-tmrca-based-on-27-genomes/347

(10) http://applications.emro.who.int/emhj/v19/Supp1/EMHJ_2013_19_Supp1_S12_S18.pdf

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Wow, wth did I just read???

I have been saying this for a long time. USA gains more by carrying out a biological terrorist attack on China. Its in the Americans blood to do such inhuman things. They gave used chemical weapons on civilians, white phosphorus on children, even in the early days, they killed the native Americans who helped them.

Already we are seeing so many cases of the virus coming out of USA. Celebrities, politicians, etc are being infected all over the place. Such a fast rate of infection would not happen just over night. It had to have happened long before, and now the cases are surfacing now that is has spread all over the country.

The story about bat spreading the virus was just a cover. Someone told me, people have been eating bats for couple of years now. If that's true, why was there no cases for years. In fact, the bats started to transmit the virus right around the time USA and China are in the middle of trade war.

Everything you said just makes so much sense. And the bat thing, I knew it was bs all along but most people will believe anything you spew at them. Indonesians probably consume more bats than any other people on this planet and you never hear about a deadly virus like this wrecking havoc on their society. Same goes for most southeast Asian countries, they all eat bats and yet you never hear anything close to what we are seeing now.

Major coverup going on in USA, they're not testing for it because everyone's got it. They want it to run it's course.
 
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Blame America for screwing up. Pay some white folk of xyz research institute to speculate, or suggest that the virus originated from the US ask CCP bots to flood the social media with this speculation. They might even believe this, in a couple of years, Chinese folks would forget the Corona ever originated in Wuhan, and they believe it originated in the US and was spread in China to stop China from global domination. Commie propaganda 101
 
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Stop spreading CCP propaganda

Actually he might have a point here, dude..

i believe, based on certain hollywood movies like Resident Evil, that influenza (the flu) is heavily researched by the US military, for various reasons.
Given the trade-war, given how an exercise in viral containment is actually useful for all countries, *i*, personally, consider it even likely that the US is involved in the start of the Corona viral outbreak.

But i'm *not* sure about any of this. I do not work for the US government (aka i'm not on their payrolls).



what are the names of the hospitals?!
that's a violation of the oath of secrecy of the medical profession, dude.
try something else, please.
 
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Plausible. But in the end US will never allow investigation in their soil. But i highly doubt its from Wuhan Biolab. I can see this escalate into a biological warfare.
 
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Plausible. But in the end US will never allow investigation in their soil. But i highly doubt its from Wuhan Biolab. I can see this escalate into a biological warfare.
It won't escalate, it will *de-escalate*, and even offer opportunities to end the trade-war between the US and China.
This is because viral outbreaks lead to mobilization of the entire media and medical professions, and those are very nice and wise people with a lot of social power.
 
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It won't escalate, it will *de-escalate*, and even offer opportunities to end the trade-war between the US and China.
This is because viral outbreaks lead to mobilization of the entire media and medical professions, and those are very nice people with a lot of social power.
Nah, bioweapon are way more powerful than bombs to bring down countries. I'm pretty sure terrorist and covert agencies might re-evaluate their strategies.
 
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Nah, bioweapon are way more powerful than bombs to bring down countries. I'm pretty sure terrorist and covert agencies might re-evaluate their strategies.
you'll only strengthen a country with an influenza 'attack', within 3 months to a year of even seeing the virus take hold on the population.
and designing a new flavor of even something as simple as influenza takes years for large groups of scientists working with advanced equipment and the strictest of work ethics..
groups like alQuada and ISIS don't have such power, and western *and* Russian *and* eastern intel agencies won't let them acquire such powers either.

#disclaimer i'm not the one who started this. i have no idea who did. it could have been 'natural causes', aka a natural occurring mutation happening in a crowded live animal market.
 
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