US military in decline, threats from China ‘formidable,’ report says

[MajesticPug]

It’s not gold. It’s fake money. Every time US federal reserve print more China trillion loses value. Only difference is, China got trillions, US has no limit. Qadaffi in Libya and saddam in Iraq tried to challenge the world reserve currency. Rest is history. Only Saudis have the power to filp the dollars upside down but at what cost?

I do agree with you and all those saying China holding huge amount of US debts and dollar reserves is STUPID. It's like aiming the gun at its own foot going into a fight with the US. But a lot mainland Chinese holding top posts in government (I meant, really top top posts like Xi's advisors or top decision makers) were educated in the US and Europe. These folks could only think and understand economic oerpations/transactions in the Western framework. That is... everything MUST evolve from US dollars. They can't think creatively like Russia's Treasury Minister (whom I think was brilliant advising Putin against the West's sanctions). Worse yet, these West-educated 'Chinese' might have sworn allegiance to the US or their families might have. They probably have their assets in real estate and stocks in the US. I've known many many 'Chinese' nationals from China scooping up real estates in the Los Angeles, NYC, SF Bay areas like there's no tomorrow.

In another word, many of these 'Chinese' top decision makers are too invested in the US national interests that they can't deny, refute, refuse orders from DC or their family members might disappear walking on the streets in NYC, or shopping in a Beverly Hills store.

 

[VCheng]

In another word, many of these 'Chinese' top decision makers are too invested in the US national interests that they can't deny, refute, refuse orders from DC or their family members might disappear walking on the streets in NYC, or shopping in a Beverly Hills store.

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

 

[MajesticPug]

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

In a world where the top dog allows other countries developed as they can and as they see fit, this is not a problem. But When the top dog, the baddest boy on the block, wants to beat you up, to disintegrate your country, then these 'decision makers' and 'policy think tanks' must be got rid of. They are parasites. They are running dogs. They are puppets. Their choices from years ago now run against their conscience -- if they have any, and against China's national interests. CIA and NSA are not 'vegetarians' and not your singing and dancing kindergarten teachers -- if you must know. These running dogs' decision to hold huge amounts of US assets (stocks, bonds, dollars, real estate, and debts) hold China in blackmail. In a peaceful and lawful world, the debtors are in control. But when the scale is decidedly tilted in favor of the borrowers as in huge amounts of debts, the debtors basically hold huge liabilities and the borrowers can do whatever they want to the debtors. The borrower, in this case, is the baddest boy and he can basically make China kneel and bent over.

 

[Abid123]

China will surpass the US in the very near future. In a couple of decades the military gap between US and China could be as large as US and Russia right now.

The only problem China faces is population decline. China's projected population in 2100 is 771 million around half of its current population.

 

[925boy]

It's China fastening the pace, not really USA in decline.

BUt when Iran essentially scrapped the new nuclear deal, and expanded nuclear activities at sensitive sites, AND US didnt start stating more troops around Iran for real militart deterrence, that is evidence that this report is correct. I've also been saying similar on PDF - its not to hate on US or any other country, but HOW power is used is as important as WHAT power a country has. Power hunger has put US in multiple bad situations it didnt have to get into.

 

[VCheng]

then these 'decision makers' and 'policy think tanks' must be got rid of. They are parasites. They are running dogs. They are puppets.

Well then, the American people will have to decide about such matters in the next elections and the ones after that, by due process. That is how our system works, as you may know, considering your location flag.

 

[MajesticPug]

Well then, the American people will have to decide about such matters in the next elections and the ones after that, by due process. That is how our system works, as you may know, considering your location flag.

LOL... I know the system well and you're a liar.. a very bad one, OR you're just an ignorant stud. Just ask how Pelosi got their hundreds of millions.

 

[jhungary]

No, China's strength is in the control of the global supply chain, her industrial and manufacturing might. No countries can outproduce China.


lol, North Korea threatens to wipe you out, dare you do anything about them?

I know I am going to regret that. But here goes.

War did not win on who produce more stuff, war won on who control all the resources, because without it, you can't build anything.

Problem with China is, it is NOT AT ALL resource rich, which mean in order for China to sustain their manufacturer capability, the Chinese would need to import resource from outside. For example, Copper, Iron, Aluminium, Rubber and Petrochemical are all imported from outside China.

It would be fine in peace time, but it will not be the case in war with the US, I mean, first of all, some country will stop selling Chinese resource due to US pressure, and the one that won't, US can literally blockade them, so they can't ship anything out. Say for example, China depends on Bauxite import from Australia and Gambia (or Ghana, I don't remember which one, either way it's a far away African country) to make aluminium. If China is at war with US, Australia will most likely stop supplying Bauxite to China and if Gambia don't play ball with the US, US have more than enough firepower to stop them from delivering Bauxite to China. The US won't even need to blockade China to get this done.

Sames goes Rubber, Tin and other Resource Chinese import.

Look at it this way, US did not declare war on Russia, they just sanction them, and Russia is VERY Resource Rich, yet after 6 months of war, Russia have to turn to Iran for Drone and North Korea for munition. I mean if US can do that to Resource Rich Russia, would you really think China have a chance?

 

[beijingwalker]

Look at it this way, US did not declare war on Russia, they just sanction them, and Russia is VERY Resource Rich, yet after 6 months of war, Russia have to turn to Iran for Drone and North Korea for munition. I mean if US can do that to Resource Rich Russia, would you really think China have a chance?

Russia depends on selling its resources and its manufacturing is weak, China is the oppostie, do you know how many drones China makes? China doesn't import weapons from US, so what kind of sanctions US can impose on China without hurint itself way more?

 

[jhungary]

Russia depends on selling its resources and its manufacturing is weak, China is the oppostie, do you know how many drones China makes? China doesn't import weapons from US, so what kind of sanctions US can impose on China without hurint itself way more?

Do you know how many drones China can make without Aluminium to make the body, Copper to make the wire?

ZERO.

Both of which will be denied from import with by will or by force, and you can't materialise copper and aluminium out of no where, which mean whatever you have was that.

Dude, don't be naive Russia do not have the capability to make stuff, they can, but when there is no resource to make them, how would they do that?

 

[beijingwalker]

Do you know how many drones China can make without Aluminium to make the body, Copper to make the wire?

China consumes over half of the world alumnimium and copper to supply to world with household products, but China doesn't import them from US, It's US that should worry, not China.

 

[jhungary]

China consumes over half of the world alumnimium and copper to supply to world with household products, but China doesn't import them from US, It's US that should worry, not China.

how are you getting those ore from Gambia or Australia when they don't allow you to have them or US blockading them?

Can you teleport those ore to China??

Dude, it's not what mine you own, it's you don't have them in your country.

By the way, that chart is to detail the COMSUMPTION of those mineral, not the ownership of those mine, which mean you are actually going to get worse because that means you are more depending on them in 2018 than in 2008, and those ore aren't coming to you in a war for the reason I had mentioned.

 

[beijingwalker]

how are you getting those ore from Gambia or Australia when they don't allow you to have them or US blockading them?

Can you teleport those ore to China??

Dude, it's not what mine you own, it's you don't have them in your country.

Sanction doesn't mean blockagding, did US blockage Russia now? blocading China means blocading the world, include US.

besides, China is also the wrold biggest alumnimium and second biggest copper miner and producer.

 

[jhungary]

Sanction doesn't mean blockagding, did US blockage Russia now? blocading China means blocading the world, include US.

besides, China is also the wrold biggest alumnimium and second biggest copper miner and producer.

Sanction means blockading.......because it means you stopped trading with that country, just not by force...

And no, China is the biggest producer does not mean they have the biggest mine or reserve.

Copper Ore in China | The Observatory of Economic Complexity

Find the latest exports, imports and tariffs for Copper Ore trade in China.

oec.world

In 2020, China exported $16.9M in Copper Ore, making it the 49th largest exporter of Copper Ore in the world. At the same year, Copper Ore was the 1025th most exported product in China. The main destination of Copper Ore exports from China are: Malaysia ($10.4M), Georgia ($2.74M), Chinese Taipei ($1.51M), Cambodia ($1.22M), and Kazakhstan ($543k).

https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2021/mcs2021-bauxite-alumina.pdf

On the other hand, China was NOT the top copper producer in the world. It's 3rd in Copper

Top 10 Copper Producers by Country (Updated 2024)

Copper prices have not been immune from the market volatility impacting most commodities over the past year, especially on the back of weakened demand from China.Time will tell when the price of copper will once again reach the record level it hit in the first half of 2022, but analysts are...

investingnews.com

And that just 2 of the examples, you also have a lot more different ore and metal China does not have reserve for. And non-metal such as rubber also being a problem for China too.

 

[beijingwalker]

Sanction means blockading.......Not by force...

Then by what? how can US stop China from importing raw material? did US stop Russia from importing now ?