US military accuses Chinese J-11 of unsafe interception procedures

[Horse_Rider]

This RC-135 was LOADED with high-end tech! I'm surprised to see so many things after zooming into the airframe of this jet. A LOT Digital Tech!

 

[Beny Karachun]

Palestinians are civilians, you’re saying it’s okay for Israeli soldiers to be killing civilians? I see that’s the type of person your are.

No they aren't lol

They just gamble their lives

 

[gambit]

Purpose is to have the "massive 4 engine airplane" bugger off. Chaff will damage engines if it's sucked in. If the RC doesn't want to move and keep taking in chaff, it'll be in for some extended maintance after the mission.

Wrong. When I was active duty, I have seen the engines of the F-111 and F-16 ingested objects larger and tougher than alum strips and the engines were fine. You do not know what you are talking about.

 

[jhungary]

Wrong. When I was active duty, I have seen the engines of the F-111 and F-16 ingested objects larger and tougher than alum strips and the engines were fine. You do not know what you are talking about.

I have seen hail got suck in bigger than aluminium strips.......

 

[gambit]

I have seen hail got suck in bigger than aluminium strips.......

Another instance of 'Chinese physics'...

 

[jhungary]

Another instance of 'Chinese physics'...

Didn't they know they used to throw shotgun shell to start a B-52 engine??

 

[flowerfan2020]

Didn't they know they used to throw shotgun shell to start a B-52 engine??

Are you talking about this?

 

[Yaoudelizard]

No they aren't lol

They just gamble their lives

Nah you just like to justify killing Palestinian civilians

 

[casual]

Wrong. When I was active duty, I have seen the engines of the F-111 and F-16 ingested objects larger and tougher than alum strips and the engines were fine. You do not know what you are talking about.

haha, is that why the last time China jet did this the P-8 immediately gtfo?

'When ingested, chaff can damage a jet engine’s blades and in extreme instances can even shut it down, said Peter Layton, a former Australian Air Force officer who is now a fellow at the Griffith Asia Institute.'

Chinese fighter jet 'chaffs' Australian plane near South China Sea, Canberra alleges | CNN

A Chinese fighter jet's aggressive maneuvers endangered the crew of an Australian reconnaissance plane as it patrolled in the vicinity of the South China Sea, Australia's Defense Ministry claimed Sunday.

www.cnn.com

 

[jhungary]

Are you talking about this?

No, I am talking about this

 

[gambit]

haha, is that why the last time China jet did this the P-8 immediately gtfo?

'When ingested, chaff can damage a jet engine’s blades and in extreme instances can even shut it down, said Peter Layton, a former Australian Air Force officer who is now a fellow at the Griffith Asia Institute.'

Chinese fighter jet 'chaffs' Australian plane near South China Sea, Canberra alleges | CNN

A Chinese fighter jet's aggressive maneuvers endangered the crew of an Australian reconnaissance plane as it patrolled in the vicinity of the South China Sea, Australia's Defense Ministry claimed Sunday.

www.cnn.com

In theory, anything 'can' damage a jet engine.

Comment: Why we can't stop birds downing aircraft

The aircraft that splashed into the Hudson River yesterday is unlikely to be the last plane to be downed by a birdstrike, says Paul Marks

www.newscientist.com

International Civil Aviation Organisation regulations say that jet engines must be able to ingest a small bird without problems. But for large birds, the rules say only that the engine must not explode.​

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Chaff - Radar Countermeasures

www.globalsecurity.org

There are two types of chaff, aluminum foil and aluminum-coated glass fibers. The foil type is no longer manufactured, although it remains in the inventory and is used primarily by B-52 bombers. Both types are cut into dipoles ranging in length from 0.3 to over 2.0 inches. They are made as small and light as possible so they will remain in the air long enough to confuse enemy radar. The aluminum foil dipoles are 0.45 mils (0.00045 inches) thick and 6 to 8 mils wide. The glass fiber dipoles are generally 1 mil (25.4 microns) in diameter, including the aluminum coating which is 0.12 f 0.06 mils thick. A new superfine glass fiber chaff is being manufactured that is 0.7 mil (17.8 microns) in diameter.​

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Your China screwed up. Stop trying to salvage face.

 

[jhungary]

haha, is that why the last time China jet did this the P-8 immediately gtfo?

'When ingested, chaff can damage a jet engine’s blades and in extreme instances can even shut it down, said Peter Layton, a former Australian Air Force officer who is now a fellow at the Griffith Asia Institute.'

Chinese fighter jet 'chaffs' Australian plane near South China Sea, Canberra alleges | CNN

A Chinese fighter jet's aggressive maneuvers endangered the crew of an Australian reconnaissance plane as it patrolled in the vicinity of the South China Sea, Australia's Defense Ministry claimed Sunday.

www.cnn.com

lol, I can tell you that is definitely false, at least

My brother work for Boeing as an Engine Specialist for RR Trent Engine (the same one that was use on Boeing 747)

An engine passed safety test need to be able to ingest a bird with a certain size As this video show.

While it is true ANYTHING that got stuck into the engine can potential clause engine damage, An engine most likely would not stopped just because it injected a string of chaff strip.

In theory, anything 'can' damage a jet engine.

Comment: Why we can't stop birds downing aircraft

The aircraft that splashed into the Hudson River yesterday is unlikely to be the last plane to be downed by a birdstrike, says Paul Marks

www.newscientist.com

International Civil Aviation Organisation regulations say that jet engines must be able to ingest a small bird without problems. But for large birds, the rules say only that the engine must not explode.​

​

Chaff - Radar Countermeasures

www.globalsecurity.org

There are two types of chaff, aluminum foil and aluminum-coated glass fibers. The foil type is no longer manufactured, although it remains in the inventory and is used primarily by B-52 bombers. Both types are cut into dipoles ranging in length from 0.3 to over 2.0 inches. They are made as small and light as possible so they will remain in the air long enough to confuse enemy radar. The aluminum foil dipoles are 0.45 mils (0.00045 inches) thick and 6 to 8 mils wide. The glass fiber dipoles are generally 1 mil (25.4 microns) in diameter, including the aluminum coating which is 0.12 f 0.06 mils thick. A new superfine glass fiber chaff is being manufactured that is 0.7 mil (17.8 microns) in diameter.​

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Your China screwed up. Stop trying to salvage face.

you beat me to it by 3 seconds......

 

[gambit]

While it is true ANYTHING that got stuck into the engine can potential clause engine damage, An engine most likely would not stopped just because it injected a string of chaff strip.

Maybe he was talking about the Chinese jet engine.

 

[Beast]

haha, is that why the last time China jet did this the P-8 immediately gtfo?

'When ingested, chaff can damage a jet engine’s blades and in extreme instances can even shut it down, said Peter Layton, a former Australian Air Force officer who is now a fellow at the Griffith Asia Institute.'

Chinese fighter jet 'chaffs' Australian plane near South China Sea, Canberra alleges | CNN

A Chinese fighter jet's aggressive maneuvers endangered the crew of an Australian reconnaissance plane as it patrolled in the vicinity of the South China Sea, Australia's Defense Ministry claimed Sunday.

www.cnn.com

Obviously, @gambit know zero about basic interception during peacetime.

 

[casual]

lol, I can tell you that is definitely false, at least

My brother work for Boeing as an Engine Specialist for RR Trent Engine (the same one that was use on Boeing 747)

An engine passed safety test need to be able to ingest a bird with a certain size As this video show.

While it is true ANYTHING that got stuck into the engine can potential clause engine damage, An engine most likely would not stopped just because it injected a string of chaff strip.


you beat me to it by 3 seconds......

Obviously your Aussie Airforce officer disagrees. Everytime China plane throws chaff, your jet buggers out.