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US might strike in Pakistan:White House

blitz said:
Of course Pakistan could put some real hurt on US troops entering Pakistani territory
They should brace for none less. Invasions are always met with resistance.

There is always a way to hurt someone. I would not say that Pakistan should get involved in open hostilities, rather give Taliban a little room, lift some of the pressure that Pakistan has been putting on them. Purpose is only to open US's eyes to the fact that they cannot bully us, which they seem to be oblivious to. US should be reminded of the price they will pay if Pakistan decides to pull out from this so called "War on Terror".
 
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They should brace for none less. Invasions are always met with resistance.

There is always a way to hurt someone. I would not say that Pakistan should get involved in open hostilities, rather give Taliban a little room, lift some of the pressure that Pakistan has been putting on them. Purpose is only to open US's eyes to the fact that they cannot bully us, which they seem to be oblivious to. US should be reminded of the price they will pay if Pakistan decides to pull out from this so called "War on Terror".

That actually reminds me of something Musharraf, I think, said a few months ago in response to NATO complaining that Pakistan was not doing enough. Something to the effect of, "Pakistan can make life hell for NATO if it wanted to if it was actually supporting the Taliban". Pretty clear message. The fact is that if the US or NATO adopted such a policy, of invasion/strikes into Pakistan, and Pakistan was completely serious in opposing such action (rather than mere lip service to not sound like it was kowtowing to the Americans), it could make life miserable for NATO forces. The only way then to stop Pakistan would be a full scale invasion, and there is just no way that any NATO country has the political will or resources to undertake that in the immediate future. Even if they did, it would never get off the drawing board because any conflict fought by conventional means, that could result in Pakistan losing, could always be preempted by the threat of a nuclear attack on Indian or/and U.S interests in the region.

This is either mere bluster, or Pakistan secretly agrees but wants to put up a tough front for domestic consumption.
 
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If some how which i dont think so will ever happen i.e. a full scale invasion of pakistan by nato forces, its india that will play a vital role here as always trying to destroy pakistan in whatever way possible. After 9/11 india openly offered us its bases against pakistan and in that kind of scenario (if pakistan had not agreed) both india and us would have attacked. This is the only reason pakistan is complying to its full extent to avoid such a confrontation.
 
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After 9/11 india openly offered us its bases against pakistan and in that kind of scenario (if pakistan had not agreed) both india and us would have attacked.

You mean to say Pakistan did agree to US and India about it being invaded and so it wasnt!!!:woot:
 
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You mean to say Pakistan did agree to US and India about it being invaded and so it wasnt!!!:woot:

pakistan agreed to join war on terror which by the way was lead by US and not India. Its that simple. India wanted to take advantage of the situation to drag pakistan as the root cause of terrorism which she failed too.
 
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They should brace for none less. Invasions are always met with resistance.

There is always a way to hurt someone. I would not say that Pakistan should get involved in open hostilities, rather give Taliban a little room, lift some of the pressure that Pakistan has been putting on them. Purpose is only to open US's eyes to the fact that they cannot bully us, which they seem to be oblivious to. US should be reminded of the price they will pay if Pakistan decides to pull out from this so called "War on Terror".

The US can bully any country except the Russians and the Chinese - why do you think that is? I dont understand why you're so impatient and need to prove something now. It's very well known US has very good military technology, Pakistan's time will come, it's nearly there, it just needs a bit longer..got to keep the infrastructure in place.
 
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O.K. re-opened .......

I understand some for you disagree quite strongly however please stick to the topic please......
 
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That the US would not hesitate to invade Pakistan is a very interesting and an extraordinary comment (that is if that was what was the intent behind the statement) from the US administration.

One wonders if it was stated 'to test the wind', as also to send a message to the fundamentalists that things could get worse.

Musharraf is US' sole hope. They would not sacrifice him with statements that alarm and cannot be implemented. After all, the Pakistani Army is not a push over. It is a battle hardened army, even if the nuclear arsenal is not taken into consideration. I am sure the US is well aware of this fact. Therefore, it is a moot point if one is to read too much into the US' statement.
 
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US wouldnt dare invade Pakistan, They are too important playground for their interests to lose to China, What might be a issue in the current millitary is if Pakistani Army establishment gets divided aong themselved to serve US interest or Chinese interest more, but it is also unlikely as China is more ruthless to Extremism.

US can and invade NWFP though but there will be definite help of PA else the losses encurred in any such daring invasion in the hilly areas would not be taken care softly by US Public.
 
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Already the US has struck the Pakistan. Isn't it?
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US might strike in Pakistan:White House

Agence France-Presse . Nashville, Tennessee

The White House on Thursday refused to rule out striking at suspected terrorist targets inside Pakistan and would not say whether US forces would first seek permission from Islamabad.

Asked whether the US president, George W Bush, had ruled out US military action inside Pakistan, spokesman Tony Snow replied: ‘We never rule out any options, including striking actionable targets.’

Asked whether Bush would first seek authorisation from the Pakistan president, Pervez Musharraf, Snow told reporters: ‘Those are matters that are best not discussed publicly.’

Washington in recent days has sharply criticised Musharraf’s truce with leaders in Pakistan’s tribal areas, where al-Qaeda and Taliban militants were believed hiding, calling on him to take aggressive military action.

And Bush’s top counter-terrorism adviser at the White House recently suggested that the United States did not get all of the cooperation it hoped for from Pakistan in the global war on terrorism.

At the same time, the White House has been praising Musharraf personally.

‘President Musharraf has put his life on the line and has been a very important ally in the war on terror,’ Snow said as Bush travelled here to make remarks on the federal budget.

‘It’s also clear that Taliban and al-Qaeda, in the northwest territories and the federally administered tribal areas, have begun to put on operations that threaten the government of Pakistan itself,’ he added.

‘President Musharraf, having tried one approach, in terms of dealing with the tribal leaders, is now going to have to be more aggressive and is being more aggressive moving forces into the region to deal with the security problems there,’ he said.

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Look at this cartoon. There is a answer.
 
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US tries to smooth Pakistan al-Qaeda row

Agence France-Presse . Washington

New Age - July 27, 2007

The United States Wednesday stressed it was acutely concerned about infringing Pakistani sovereignty, after Islamabad bristled at its threats of strikes against al-Qaeda in restive tribal areas.

But senior State Department troubleshooter Nicholas Burns said Washington would retain the option of targeting Osama bin Laden’s terror group in Pakistani-Afghan border areas in some circumstances.

‘We want to respect the sovereignty of the Pakistani government ... we want to work with the Pakistanis,’ Burns, under secretary of state for political affairs, told a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

‘Are there any scenarios under which the United States might take its own action when we are dealing with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda? We can foresee some such scenarios,’ he said.

‘But it’s always going to be our preference to work with (Pakistan) ... we are partners of them, we don’t want to complicate their internal politics needlessly.’

Burns was replying to a question from Virginia Senator Jim Webb, who expressed concerns about the political impact of any US action in the tribal areas on president Pervez Musharraf, a key ally in the US ‘war on terror.’

‘We would have the potential of causing a ripple effect throughout the country which could truly destabilise the central government,’ Webb said.

Burns appeared before the committee several days after Pakistan reacted angrily to threats of action against militant targets in tribal territories, where US intelligence says al-Qaeda and the Taliban are regrouping.

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‘Strike inside Pakistan is an option’


REF:http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=9244

Pentagon officials tell House panel US Special Forces will enter Pakistan on specific intelligence; Democrats lash out at Musharraf

By News desk

WASHINGTON: US Special Forces would enter Pakistan if they had specific intelligence about an impending terrorist strike against the United States, despite warnings from the Pakistani government that it would not accept US troops operating independently inside its borders, the Washington Post reported on Thursday.

Quoting top Pentagon and State Department officials that a strike by the US inside the tribal areas of Pakistan is an option, the report said there were the clearest assertion yet of the Bush administration’s willingness to act unilaterally inside Pakistan.

“If there were information or opportunity to strike a blow to protect the American people,” US forces would act immediately, Peter Verga, the acting assistant secretary of defence for international security, told an unusual joint session of the House’s Armed Services Committee and Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

At a separate Senate hearing, R Nicholas Burns, the State Department’s undersecretary for political affairs, suggested that a unilateral strike would be a last resort, according to the report. “Given the primacy of the fight against al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, if we have in the future certainty of knowledge, then of course the United States would always have the option of taking action on its own,” Burns said during questioning before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The statements were prompted by lawmakers’ questions about an intelligence assessment released last week that concluded that a resurgent al-Qaeda was using the tribal areas of Pakistan as a sanctuary for planning attacks against the United States and suggested that Pakistan had not been effective in combating the terrorist group and its allies.

James R Clapper Jr, Undersecretary of Defense and the Pentagon’s top intelligence official, told the House committee hearing that the Musharraf government was not “doing 100 per cent of everything we might like,” but he added, “I think they are doing what they can, given the constraints.”

Clapper said the new efforts by Pakistan to rout al-Qaeda out of its haven “are only in the first week or so of implementation... and so, at this point, it is much too early to try to provide an assessment of the impact of these latest Pakistani moves”.

Several Democrats on the committee questioned Musharraf’s commitment to a head-on confrontation with the terrorists. Representative Robert Andrews said the American people — both Republicans and Democrats — want this job done by the United States. “We do not want to farm this one out.”

He asked whether the US would be willing to intercede with Pakistan’s special forces against al-Qaeda if it received actionable intelligence (or) the US special forces would be able to strike if the US received a report that required swift action, Clapper responded: “Well, yes, sir. We would be.”

Pete Verga interjected: “I would not want the American people to get the impression that if there were information and opportunity to strike a blow to al-Qaeda in (the tribal area) that we would not take immediate advantage of that opportunity.”

The committee members also questioned the Bush administration’s steadfast reliance on the Pakistani president and whether he had earned the more than $10 billion in US assistance provided since the Sept 11, 2001, terror attacks on the United States.

Warning Musharraf that US assistance, which requires congressional approval, was “not a blank check,” Senator Robert Menendez said the Pakistani president was operating with a “blind eye” to the terrorist build-up.

However, Clapper replied that Musharraf had faced at least three assassination attempts because of his assistance to the United States. “Some of the most critical arrests that have occurred of senior al-Qaeda members have occurred in Pakistan by the Pakistanis,” he said, adding: “Since al-Qaeda is in an area largely inaccessible to Pakistani forces, it is a very difficult operating environment for them.” He stressed that more involvement of Pakistani troops would help, as would “more freedom of action on our part to engage in Pakistan”.

Democratic members complained that the National Intelligence Estimate released last week contradicted President Bush’s earlier repeated assertions that al-Qaeda was “on the run” instead portrayed a resurgent al-Qaeda after the US has spent billions of dollars on the war on terrorism.

The defence and intelligence officials testified that al-Qaeda attempted to reconstitute itself in Pakistani urban areas, only to be pushed out by Pakistani forces in early 2004. Al-Qaeda then “relocated” to North Waziristan, where it was far more difficult for Pakistani forces to find its members.

“We saw indications that the top (al-Qaeda) leadership was able to exploit that comfort zone” and exert more influence over al-Qaeda affiliates elsewhere, Edward Gistaro, the CIA’s national intelligence officer for trans-national threats, told the hearing.

Michael Leiter, deputy director of the National Counter-Terrorism Centre, testified that a peace agreement Musharraf signed last year with the North Waziristan tribes contributed to the development of a safe haven for al-Qaeda in the tribal areas.

Mary Beth Long, acting assistant secretary of defence for international security affairs, told the hearing that the agreement has since been “abandoned by both sides” and is “no longer in effect”.

Back at the Senate panel hearing, Burns called President Musharraf the “most indispensable partner” of the United States in fighting terror and added that the Bush administration wanted a more sustained and effective effort by the Pakistani government against both al-Qaeda and Taliban forces on Pakistani soil.

An al-Qaeda build-up in tribal areas along the Afghan border underscores the need for Pakistan to “elevate its efforts to fight the enemy,” said Burns. “Al-Qaeda remains a potent force inside Pakistan, as is the Taliban,” he said. “Defeating these enemies is essential to our effort to defeat terrorism in South Asia and around the world.”




.....once again..ARROGANT MFKS......I hope Pakistan....in its own usual way....treat the American special forces with due courtesy......that is...KICK their Effing arses the hard way. The US/Nato are making strategic cock-ups and are not able to subdue the Taliban in Afghanistan despite their HI-TEC gear. It is the Bastard Us lobbys who would like Pakistan to be disabled and made ineffective as other Muslim Nations have been made.

The Babur cruise missile was a 'timely' tested reminder to these arrogant twats (US/Nato....still with their effing 'colonialist' attitudes!!!.... I hope PaK PLAYS IT COOL. tHE uS/Nato are just trying to woo their own public on the progress on the 'war on terrorism'.....it looks like the neo-cons would desire a 'clash of civilization' to further their agendas.....
 
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