US may keep 10,000 troops in Afghanistan

[Spring Onion]

If we make a deal with Taliban the opium cultivation will decrease significantly and that will be of two factors: 1) Taliban will not need to harvest their part of opium after stopping this insane war. 2) Taliban under any Afghan gov will not allow opium cultivation and the ban will be too strict.

Corruption will end up if we elect a very clean pure person for presidency in 2014 otherwise these ruling thugs will eat up the whole nation for another 5 years term.

1. If you were to make deals with Taliban why the heck you got so many people killed in the war?

2. Who is in your opinion a clean pure person for the slot? above all does it matter if a pure person is prez while his allies are all corrupt same extremist warlords?

be sure the thugs are again in for 5 years

Future is bright. WOrld is ready to help Afghanistan coz it will serve World.

India: India can help Afghans by training ANA officers in Indian Military Acadamy. We will open our university for Afghans. Doctors and engineer can get there training in India. We are providing infrastructure support, like making road, hospitals and educational instuitutions. We will contiue the same. Pakistan have given us transit to have bilateral trade with Afghans, Our Chabar port is almost ready and India-Iran-Afghan transit is also ready, we will create rail network in West Afghanistan.

Pakistan: Pak will stop Cross border terrorism, Pakistan already have sheltered Afghanis, Pakistan can provide basic education to Afghans (Higher education can be taken at India).

Elections are nearing in Pakistan too and there should be no TRADE passage to INDIA in coming days.

you can use chahbahar

 

[Sher Malang]

1. If you were to make deals with Taliban why the heck you got so many people killed in the war?

2. Who is in your opinion a clean pure person for the slot? above all does it matter if a pure person is prez while his allies are all corrupt same extremist warlords?

be sure the thugs are again in for 5 years

Your first question is to be answered by US and Pakistan - The US who started this war and Pakistan who fed and is feeding this war; no Afghan was involved! we have made the biggest sacrifice in this so called WOT.

No, today if the extremist warlords are in the government it's because of the policy of USA, Bush himself authorized hiring all of them in the government and thought they will be US's ally; once US leave and we get to have a strong and clean president with majority of people's support the role of these warlords will come to an end soon even Karzai tried and dismissed alot of them out of government by various political ways in his second term.

 

[VCheng]

Your first question is to be answered by US and Pakistan - The US who started this war and Pakistan who fed and is feeding this war; no Afghan was involved! we have made the biggest sacrifice in this so called WOT.

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Incorrect.

Al-Qaeda started this war by attacking USA, most dramatically on 9/11, and they were given sanctuary by Afghans, so yes, I would say that Afghans were and are involved, intimately, with the whole war.

 

[Sher Malang]

Incorrect.

Al-Qaeda started this war by attacking USA, most dramatically on 9/11, and they were given sanctuary by Afghans, so yes, I would say that Afghans were and are involved, intimately, with the whole war.

Afghans (or the Taliban of that time) wanted evidence for OBL's involvement but hell there was nothing in the USA's hand to give it to them in any case Taliban knew USA had planned to attack Afghanistan. By your logic Pakistan should now be bombed to hell because they found out OBL in Pakistan and killed them there.

 

[VCheng]

Afghans (or the Taliban of that time) wanted evidence for OBL's involvement but hell there was nothing in the USA's hand to give it to them in any case Taliban knew USA had planned to attack Afghanistan. By your logic Pakistan should now be bombed to hell because they found out OBL in Pakistan and killed them there.

It is a testament to the success of Pakistani foreign policy so far that it has not been bombed back to the stone age.

 

[Contrarian]

ANA is standing at over 200,000 strong today with 160,000 ANP, we have enough manpower but all of them lack firepower which will come under serious consideration during current talks between Afghanistan and US on foreign troops post-2014 stay! Afghan government wants to have full authority of 4.1bln$ fund /year from US and allies so they could buy weapons of their choice - their major concern is Afghan Air Force which is currently operating only transport aircraft we lack air defenses too.

ANA has a serious lack of training and discipline. You should be aware of what the US trainers have to tell about ANA. Those numbers are not battle effective currently.

 

[KS]

ANA has a serious lack of training and discipline. You should be aware of what the US trainers have to tell about ANA. Those numbers are not battle effective currently.

Afghanistan must be trained by either India or Pakistan, though I prefer India for obvious reasons, if its Army is to be disciplined. I dont think the US Army instructors can match the wavelength of the Afghan recruits. An Indian or a Pakistani instructor could connect more with them than a NATO one.

 

[Zabaniyah]

ANA is standing at over 200,000 strong today with 160,000 ANP, we have enough manpower but all of them lack firepower which will come under serious consideration during current talks between Afghanistan and US on foreign troops post-2014 stay! Afghan government wants to have full authority of 4.1bln$ fund /year from US and allies so they could buy weapons of their choice - their major concern is Afghan Air Force which is currently operating only transport aircraft we lack air defenses too.

Initial strength of 200,000 for ANA? That's pretty good for starters.

Afghanistan must be trained by either India or Pakistan, though I prefer India for obvious reasons, if its Army is to be disciplined. I dont think the US Army instructors can match the wavelength of the Afghan recruits. An Indian or a Pakistani instructor could connect more with them than a NATO one.

I wouldn't dispute the discipline part. Also, these "insider attacks" reduce their credibility.

I think it should be (or must be) in everyone's interests to have a stable Afghanistan. And it needs the regional support. I feel America hasn't been working on this matter enough.

It is crucial, at least for Pakistan and India take a bold initiative in this. No one wants to see an unstable Afghanistan from which extremists and drugs would keep creeping in.

Afghanistan's security challenges would be far from resolved even after 2014. People need to bear this in mind.

 

[S10]

I spoke with a few Canadian troops who had returned from Afghanistan. Their opinion of the ANA and ANP in general are negative. Incompetence is a common opinion shared by them, as well as drug use, desertion, and working for Taliban. One of them even joked that he suspects the ANA soldiers would go fight for the Taliban on their days off.

 

[Sher Malang]

ANA has a serious lack of training and discipline. You should be aware of what the US trainers have to tell about ANA. Those numbers are not battle effective currently.

Not at all, their discipline and trainings have improved a lot since 2006; they are having control of 75% of Afghanistan independently, leading 80% of operations, have a lot of special units etc.. so discipline, training and effectiveness is today out of question!

 

[Sher Malang]

Afghanistan must be trained by either India or Pakistan, though I prefer India for obvious reasons, if its Army is to be disciplined. I dont think the US Army instructors can match the wavelength of the Afghan recruits. An Indian or a Pakistani instructor could connect more with them than a NATO one.

For the time being we are receiving world class trainings from US and NATO countries - a number of ANA trainees are in India but Pakistan comes at last because of some political instabilities between two countries.

 

[KRAIT]

From 40,000 to 24,000 and now 10,000. US is reducing troop soldiers to be posted every now and then.

 

[Sher Malang]

Initial strength of 200,000 for ANA? That's pretty good for starters.



I wouldn't dispute the discipline part. Also, these "insider attacks" reduce their credibility.

I think it should be (or must be) in everyone's interests to have a stable Afghanistan. And it needs the regional support. I feel America hasn't been working on this matter enough.

It is crucial, at least for Pakistan and India take a bold initiative in this. No one wants to see an unstable Afghanistan from which extremists and drugs would keep creeping in.

Afghanistan's security challenges would be far from resolved even after 2014. People need to bear this in mind.

Insider attacks were due to lack of good recruitment procedures no insider attack was done by any ANA soldier who had been in duty for more than 2 months; most of the insider attacks were by new (in weeks) recruited soldiers.

 

[Sher Malang]

I spoke with a few Canadian troops who had returned from Afghanistan. Their opinion of the ANA and ANP in general are negative. Incompetence is a common opinion shared by them, as well as drug use, desertion, and working for Taliban. One of them even joked that he suspects the ANA soldiers would go fight for the Taliban on their days off.

Man if you are in any imagination of ANA compared to Canadian troops that's far behind comparison - everyone of us know ANSF was built from ashes and when? just 4 years ago when Obama administration knew that they aren't going to fight alone in this war - today ANA is as much equipped as a Taliban thug why? because USA wants a balance between ANSF and Taliban so fight can prolong for some special purposes; lets not forget ANSF is being built in the middle of war anyone of the soldier who remain committed to their national duties will be the strongest in the future compared to any soldier in neighboring countries, how many soldier in our neighbors have actually fought a real fight in their lives before dieing I am pretty that will be under 10% of their overall structure; all the ratings of drugs, desertion working for enemy would come to the ranking once they start to fight - security in Afghanistan goes parallel with geopolitics everything is balanced in Afghanistan for some major political goals.

It's just the beginning ANSF has long way to go! from the day ANSF has taken the responsibilities we Afghans have seen significant decrease in terrorist activities. May Allah bless them! Ameen.

From 40,000 to 24,000 and now 10,000. US is reducing troop soldiers to be posted every now and then.

From where did you got those other values?

 

[KS]

how many soldier in our neighbors have actually fought a real fight in their lives before dieing I am pretty that will be under 10% of their overall structure;

Actually it would be much more than 10% since both Pak and India face active insurgencies and the troops are always rotated.