US lawmakers strongly oppose weapon sales to ‘snitch’ Pakistan

[Irfan Baloch]

Also---the dirty nuc does not have feet of its own---it needs to be transported by people----and all those people are under the microscope---.

So---since the breakdown of soviet union----just take a guess how many people tried to smuggle and use the dirty bomb----possibly above a 25 and below 75----and guess what happened---all of them got caught---you won't read that in the news paper---unless the reporter got there first.

reminded me of a speech by a Pakistani nuclear scientist who laughed at the idiots who eat the western propaganda garbage about Possible stealing of Pakistani nukes saying they make it sound as if its as simple as smuggling screw driver set by smuggling the components like triggering machinaism, the uranium the containers etc in pockets one at a time and then assemble them out in the back of a car

 

[New World]

each worth an estimated $165 million

$165 million

 

[Blue Marlin]

$165 million

would be about less than half of that in reality. on the ultimate highend your looking at $80 million

 

[MastanKhan]

reminded me of a speech by a Pakistani nuclear scientist who laughed at the idiots who eat the western propaganda garbage about Possible stealing of Pakistani nukes saying they make it sound as if its as simple as smuggling screw driver set by smuggling the components like triggering machinaism, the uranium the containers etc in pockets one at a time and then assemble them out in the back of a car

Hi,

People don't understand that there is no safe way to carry fissile material---and specially when it is illegal---you don't have the safety measures in place---.

The radiation would be deadly for the carrier and those assembling it. It would need a specialist to put the equipment together and then shipping it---and basically all those handling it would die of radiation---so basically----by the time they reach europe or america---they could possibly be dying.

If anyone has better or different information that this---please post it.

 

[batmannow]

Sure, but why don't we let the TTA clarify what was meant by a "very real scenario" as was described above?

Not everything needs to be explained in a country where , education still is a luxury ,which most of its population really not enjoy ?
Its enough , we have learned the hard way , : no black waters been given free visas to run a wild in Pakistan , we packed them all ?
Even though , first hand was OBL , the target america wants to show the world , its Rambos are still in works , but deadly green brigade didn't allowed it that way , even though Mr Kiyani was fully cooperated , with zardari on that issue , but both been stopped , humilitated , & sent back into their stupid chairs ?
You won't get any , conformations , even if real OBL is sitting, at private spot Miami beach & sipping some good wine , smiling talking to his friend , Mr George w.bush senior ?lolzz
We know that ,they knows that & thats it !
That's why ,they always tell to others Pakistani nucks are in safe hands ,cause they tried & tested !

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

People don't understand that there is no safe way to carry fissile material---and specially when it is illegal---you don't have the safety measures in place---.

The radiation would be deadly for the carrier and those assembling it. It would need a specialist to put the equipment together and then shipping it---and basically all those handling it would die of radiation---so basically----by the time they reach europe or america---they could possibly be dying.

If anyone has better or different information that this---please post it.

It can be done, if one knows how to do it.

 

[Donatello]

Are you saying that "complete collapse of state control, (with) ISIS like entity running wild in Pakistan" is a very real scenario? Really?

It is a plausible scenario in any 'developing country'

ISIS doesn't control all of Syria/Iraq, yet the effects are far and wide.

 

[VCheng]

It is a plausible scenario in any 'developing country'

ISIS doesn't control all of Syria/Iraq, yet the effects are far and wide.

Not really. As long as the PA remains effective, this scenario will remain highly unlikely.

 

[Donatello]

Sir,

OBL was let go out of afghanistan towards pakistan for strategic reasons. It was a trump card to be used by the americans when they wanted to.

Don't ever imagine of selling these 'white boyz' short.

Whenever you get the urge---just remember what they did to the Japanese in the 80's---the japanese still have not come out of that loss yet and may never come out either.

If you are too young to remember---in the 80's---the japanese star was rising---they were buying properties left and right in the U S---there came a time when the media started saying that the japs will own the U S---they bought all of Vegas high roller casinos----.

And then americans took the japanese to the cleaners----.

No you may bit-ch and moan for a feel good bit-ching about the U S---as I do at time----but I would be making a fool of myself----if I started believing in it as well.




Sir,

Please stop the silly posts---. With cash in hand---the french have refuse to sell pakistan fighter aircrafts---Sweden is the same---russia may not do it either---korea would also be on the sanction list---so what aircraft are you talking about that you can buy with cash without acting like a A---hole to the seller.

You show to be 40 years old and still have not learnt that it is better to have good relationship to get equipment rather than to flaunt your money around---.



Hi,

Those milstar satelites sitting above pakistan can do wonders---at sniffing them.

You are not familiar with pak nuc command and control----. There is no chance of a nuc disappearing----.

The disappearing act only happens when the military breaks down and nation breaks down like in case of russia----different nuc installations became different nations with different standards of security and some with no money to secure them.

Also---the dirty nuc does not have feet of its own---it needs to be transported by people----and all those people are under the microscope---.

So---since the breakdown of soviet union----just take a guess how many people tried to smuggle and use the dirty bomb----possibly above a 25 and below 75----and guess what happened---all of them got caught---you won't read that in the news paper---unless the reporter got there first.

Please read these:
Nuclear Smugglers Tried Selling Radioactive Materials To ISIS

Julian Borger on what has happened to all the radioactive material that has gone missing since the end of the cold war | World news | The Guardian

These tell you of the attempts that have been thwarted......but plenty more are there. It is not as easy as simply sniffing stuff out. Those who know how to make and handle these materials, know how to ship them. Plenty of stuff you can buy on the 'black market' if you have enough cash in hand......and by stuff i don't just mean nuclear material itself, but the carrying equipment, handling procedures etc.

Not really. As long as the PA remains effective, this scenario will remain highly unlikely.

Yes, and i am sure they have counter plans for any such attempt, along with 'SOCOM' roaming freely in Pakistan to seize the materials.

Pakistan has already said, any attempt on it's nuclear sites/ infrastructure by ANY entity, state or non-state would be an act of war.

 

[VCheng]

Yes, and i am sure they have counter plans for any such attempt, along with 'SOCOM' roaming freely in Pakistan to seize the materials.

Pakistan has already said, any attempt on it's nuclear sites/ infrastructure by ANY entity, state or non-state would be an act of war.

Let's look at it this way.

As long as the PA is effective, the nukes are in safe hands. If there is total collapse of the PA, then any actions to retrieve the nukes would be totally justified, and the fact that such action is needed means that there is no effective State to be offended by a declaration of formal war.

Nothing wrong with that approach. As long as there is Pakistan to take care of its own marbles, then others do not need to take care of them at all.