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US lawmakers call Pakistan 'terrorist state', 'schizophrenic ally'

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Go ahead, call Pakistan, your ally in this WOT, as a terrorist state. These kinds of childish remarks won't do any good for a) the safety of American citizens and b) improving Pakistan-US relations.

we all know how well the war with the Taliban has turned out, let's await and see what Pakistan has in store for them then. :rofl:

But please Uncle Sam, if you can't defeat the enemy, don't take out your anger on the ally. :rofl:
 
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1. Real terrorists were their illegitamate fathers who created these monsters to plunder on honest and hard working US citizens hard earned money.

2. They have been barking the same course for many years now, why the heck don't they stop the aid then, who is stopping them?

3. SO if they are calling Paistan terrorist, then whay the **** have they been supporing and financing a "terrorist" Pakistan? It makes them equal if not bigger criminal.

4. Do we give a **** about what tese scumbags say?

5. TOI? Who trusts a source from a country that kills more than 25 million baby girls each year? after raping an equal number of women every year.
 
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So what else are we supposed to do?? Give Nishan e Haider to Dr Afridi???

OBL is as much as our enemy as it is of USA and if Dr Afridi knew about his location he should have informed Pakistani authorities. His collaboration with foreign agencies caused us considerable reputation damage and compromise of our sovereignty.

At minimum Mr Afridi should be sentenced to execution.
 
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Hang Afridi till death ASAP
So they Shut their F. mouth up forever on this.
First they ruined our sovereignty by intruding into our Land
and now they have prob with our decision.
 
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Washington: The Obama administration has joined lawmakers in condemning the conviction of Pakistani doctor Shakil Afridi, who helped the CIA trace Osama bin Laden, leaving Pakistan isolated in the corridors of power in the US capital.

America's top two "Pakistan friendly" foreign policy makers - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Senator John Kerry - have also denounced a tribal court's decision to jail Dr Shakil Afridi for 33 years, reports The Dawn.

Hillary called the judgment "unjust and unwarranted" and Senator Kerry said even though he believed in "the importance of the US-Pakistan strategic relationship, realities like these make that effort more difficult".

"We regret both the fact that he was convicted and the severity of his sentence. We are raising his case and we will continue to do so because we think that his treatment is unjust and unwarranted," Hillary said.

She pointed out that Dr Afridi "was instrumental in taking down one of the world's most wanted murderers. That was clearly in Pakistan's interest, as well as ours and the rest of the world's".

Senator Kerry said, "The irony is, the only person being punished is the person who helped the United States achieve justice for the murder of thousands of Americans."

A senate panel has deducted USD 33 million from a proposed assistance to Pakistan – USD 1 million for each year Dr Afridi will spend in jail.

A senior Pakistani diplomat who spent a day in the Congress House noted that wherever he went, he confronted a "bipartisan anger at Pakistan from very angry congressmen and women".

The US lawmakers, he pointed out, "are not interested in our arguments, even though we tried to argue that no country allows foreign governments, even if friendly, to engage spies".

Other diplomats also noted that no friends in the House were willing to speak for Pakistan.

"Isolate Pakistan seems to be the new plan. US-Pakistan relationship is entering a very bad phase," said one of them.
`Pakistan isolated in corridors of power in US`
 
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"Isolate Pakistan seems to be the new plan. US-Pakistan relationship is entering a very bad phase," said one of them.

Let Russia be your new non NATO ally then :P ... NDN , ringing bells ? :rofl:
 
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Just say no to Pakistan's extortion

Our terrorist-supporting "ally" Pakistan has outdone itself again.

Rather than pin a medal on the doctor who helped confirm bin Laden's identity, it has tossed him in jail on a 33-year treason sentence. Along with other extortionate acts against America, this speaks volumes about what this major recipient of U.S. foreign aid thinks it can get away with from Washington.

Pakistani doctor Shakil Afridi helped the CIA confirm the identity of the man they suspected was bin Laden, paving the way for U.S. Navy SEALs to kill him last May. Instead of apologizing for unwittingly (or wittingly) harboring the man responsible for incinerating 3,000 American civilians, Pakistan's government instead expressed outrage at the heroes who nailed the Al Qaeda leader. They rounded up Afridi and this week, convicted him of treason.

That wasn't the only slap at Washington.

Earlier this week, at the NATO summit, Pakistan's prime minister refused to back away from an extortionate demand for payment to supply our fighting men and women in Afghanistan. Pakistan's government wants a $5,000 bribe for each truck or container that carries military goods to or from Afghanistan. The potential magnitude of this is stunning when one considers that it will take tens of thousands of container-loads to complete the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Worse still, this would be on top of an obscene amount of aid that has gone from American taxpayers to Pakistan. This for a government that recently has supported terrorists in their attacks on Americans, Afghans and Indians. More than $20 billion U.S. taxpayer dollars have gone to Islamabad since 9/11. This amount spiked in recent years, with annual aid hovering around $3 billion. Like so many bad ideas in Washington, the bribe hike had broad bipartisan support from our foreign policy establishment — including the top Democrat and Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Obama administration officials are not above paying a per-container bribe to Pakistan on top of this copious aid. For the privilege of fighting terrorists on Pakistan's borders, the U.S. is reportedly already willing to pay $500 per container, but is expected to settle at a higher number.

A Senate committee voted yesterday to slice just $33 million from aid to Pakistan—a million dollars for each year of Dr. Afridi's sentence. Other actions on Capitol Hill could reduce Pakistan's aid to "merely" a billion dollars per year.

Such largesse with money we don't have is hardly tough enough love for Pakistan. In our past, we would have had the honor and intelligence not to tolerate extortion of this nature.

Our schools teach American children about the "XYZ Affair" in our history. In that episode, France and its corrupt representative wanted outrageous bribes to restore diplomatic relations after the murderous French Revolution. Then-President Adams flatly refused and a congressman summed up the matter with the succinct phrase: "Millions for defense, sir, but not one cent for tribute!"

The point is that giving in to extortion from a reprehensible and adversarial government is wrong for reasons of principle, but also pragmatism. The practitioners of our foreign policy then knew what those of ours today do not: that acquiescing to extortion leads to more extortion and rewards the corrupt.

Today, there is a pragmatic alternative to indulging Pakistan's government. The U.S. can focus on supplying Afghanistan and ultimately removing our forces via Central Asia instead of Pakistan. This involves moving goods through a combination of the other "stans" and the Caspian Sea or Russia. The costs are higher, but they could be brought down if NATO commits a fraction of what it gives Islamabad and Kabul each year to improve rail and road transportation instead.

This would also be better economically and politically for Afghanistan, orienting its economy and interests — and ultimately its future — away from Pakistan. It would stymie Pakistan's imperialist adventure in Afghanistan -- the reason it supports terrorists and insurgents there.

This sorry episode also raises the question of whom President Obama expects to cooperate with the U.S. if we do nothing to protect those who are our friends. It isn't clear if Dr. Afridi expected a reward for helping the U.S. identify bin Laden, but he presumably at least expected Washington to have his back if he was acted against.

Perhaps President Obama has been too busy congratulating himself for the bin Laden raid over the past year to consider protecting those who helped us. This would fit a pattern with his administration. For example, during Mr. Obama's tenure, WikiLeaks has compromised globally those cooperating with U.S. diplomats, soldiers and intelligence officers. Even after successive waves of disclosures, Mr. Obama and his aides have failed to act. It has been a year-and-a-half since Attorney General Holder said he was undertaking "significant" actions against WikiLeaks and that "we are doing everything that we can."

Apparently doing "everything" is actually doing nothing — both then and now. Like WikiLeaks, Pakistan seems never to be held to account for its misconduct by the Obama administration or the Washington foreign policy establishment.

Obama's message: Good luck Dr. Afridi, wherever you are.

Read more: Just say no to Pakistan's extortion | Fox News
 
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Just say no to Pakistan's extortion


Diplomacy, it is such sweet chaos. There is a highly organized plan behind this mayhem. Behind the game face that we put on, there are various levels of high level govt to govt interactions taking place in order to reach a compromise. In the mean while, these 'Shoves' are meant to weaken the other my turning public favour against them. Pakistan is in no mood to buckle any time soon though. The Americans will have to allow us better terms in this 'Alliance', they started this row, but we shall carry it to the end!
Bravo to the FO, GoP and PA for withstanding all the pressure that is actually being echoed back by our own media as well!
 
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Diplomacy, it is such sweet chaos. There is a highly organized plan behind this mayhem. Behind the game face that we put on, there are various levels of high level govt to govt interactions taking place in order to reach a compromise. In the mean while, these 'Shoves' are meant to weaken the other my turning public favour against them. Pakistan is in no mood to buckle any time soon though. The Americans will have to allow us better terms in this 'Alliance', they started this row, but we shall carry it to the end!
Bravo to the FO, GoP and PA for withstanding all the pressure that is actually being echoed back by our own media as well!

Pakistan needs new leaders as well. The current government is only putting on a recent show and standing up to the U.S. since elections are just around the corner. We need leaders willing to stand up and say no to America's foreign policy at all times.
 
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Pakistan needs new leaders as well. The current government is only putting on a recent show and standing up to the U.S. since elections are just around the corner. We need leaders willing to stand up and say no to America's foreign policy at all times.


Saying 'No' to America on every occasion isn't the sign of a good leader, it is actually the sign of a pretty poor vocabulary. We need leaders that will stick up for national interests, whether those interests are inter-twined or divergent from that of America's is a later question.
 
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Saying 'No' to America on every occasion isn't the sign of a good leader, it is actually the sign of a pretty poor vocabulary. We need leaders that will stick up for national interests, whether those interests are inter-twined or divergent from that of America's is a later question.

I agree we need leaders simply to put Pakistan first if that diverges or converges from another country so be it
 
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