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Have you ever read the actual speech Patton gave the troops on June 5th right befor the invasion of Europe in World War II..

Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American."

The General paused and looked over the crowd. "You are not all going to die," he said slowly. "Only two percent of you right here today would die in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all men. Yes, every man is scared in his first battle. If he says he's not, he's a liar. Some men are cowards but they fight the same as the brave men or they get the hell slammed out of them watching men fight who are just as scared as they are. The real hero is the man who fights even though he is scared. Some men get over their fright in a minute under fire. For some, it takes an hour. For some, it takes days. But a real man will never let his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood. Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best and it removes all that is base. Americans pride themselves on being He Men and they ARE He Men. Remember that the enemy is just as frightened as you are, and probably more so. They are not supermen."

"All through your Army careers, you men have bitched about what you call "chicken **** drilling". That, like everything else in this Army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is alertness. Alertness must be bred into every soldier. I don't give a **** for a man who's not always on his toes. You men are veterans or you wouldn't be here. You are ready for what's to come. A man must be alert at all times if he expects to stay alive. If you're not alert, sometime, a German son-of-an-asshole-***** is going to sneak up behind you and beat you to death with a sockful of ****!" The men roared in agreement.

Patton's grim expression did not change. "There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily", he roared into the microphone, "All because one man went to sleep on the job". He paused and the men grew silent. "But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did". The General clutched the microphone tightly, his jaw out-thrust, and he continued, "An Army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horse ****. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about *******!"

The men slapped their legs and rolled in glee. This was Patton as the men had imagined him to be, and in rare form, too. He hadn't let them down. He was all that he was cracked up to be, and more. He had IT!

"We have the finest food, the finest equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world", Patton bellowed. He lowered his head and shook it pensively. Suddenly he snapped erect, faced the men belligerently and thundered, "Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-bitches we're going up against. By God, I do". The men clapped and howled delightedly. There would be many a barracks tale about the "Old Man's" choice phrases. They would become part and parcel of Third Army's history and they would become the bible of their slang.

"My men don't surrender", Patton continued, "I don't want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back. That's not just bull **** either. The kind of man that I want in my command is just like the lieutenant in Libya, who, with a Luger against his chest, jerked off his helmet, swept the gun aside with one hand, and busted the hell out of the Kraut with his helmet. Then he jumped on the gun and went out and killed another German before they knew what the hell was coming off. And, all of that time, this man had a bullet through a lung. There was a real man!"

Patton stopped and the crowd waited. He continued more quietly, "All of the real heroes are not storybook combat fighters, either. Every single man in this Army plays a vital role. Don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain. What if every truck driver suddenly decided that he didn't like the whine of those shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into a ditch? The cowardly bastard could say, "Hell, they won't miss me, just one man in thousands". But, what if every man thought that way? Where in the hell would we be now? What would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be like? No, Goddamnit, Americans don't think like that. Every man does his job. Every man serves the whole. Every department, every unit, is important in the vast scheme of this war. The ordnance men are needed to supply the guns and machinery of war to keep us rolling. The Quartermaster is needed to bring up food and clothes because where we are going there isn't a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on K.P. has a job to do, even the one who heats our water to keep us from getting the 'G.I. Shits'."

Patton paused, took a deep breath, and continued, "Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men. One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, "Fixing the wire, Sir". I asked, "Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?" He answered, "Yes Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed". I asked, "Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?" And he answered, "No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!" Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds. And you should have seen those trucks on the road to Tunisia. Those drivers were magnificent. All day and all night they rolled over those son-of-a-bitching roads, never stopping, never faltering from their course, with shells bursting all around them all of the time. We got through on good old American guts. Many of those men drove for over forty consecutive hours. These men weren't combat men, but they were soldiers with a job to do. They did it, and in one hell of a way they did it. They were part of a team. Without team effort, without them, the fight would have been lost. All of the links in the chain pulled together and the chain became unbreakable."

The General paused and stared challengingly over the silent ocean of men. One could have heard a pin drop anywhere on that vast hillside. The only sound was the stirring of the breeze in the leaves of the bordering trees and the busy chirping of the birds in the branches of the trees at the General's left.

"Don't forget," Patton barked, "you men don't know that I'm here. No mention of that fact is to be made in any letters. The world is not supposed to know what the hell happened to me. I'm not supposed to be commanding this Army. I'm not even supposed to be here in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the Goddamned Germans. Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, 'Jesus Christ, it's the Goddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-*******-***** Patton'."

"We want to get the hell over there", Patton continued, "The quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit."

The men roared approval and cheered delightedly. This statement had real significance behind it. Much more than met the eye and the men instinctively sensed the fact. They knew that they themselves were going to play a very great part in the making of world history. They were being told as much right now. Deep sincerity and seriousness lay behind the General's colorful words. The men knew and understood it. They loved the way he put it, too, as only he could.

Patton continued quietly, "Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin", he yelled, "I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-***** Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!"

"When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-*******-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!"

"I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living **** out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like **** through a tin horn!"

"From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that."

The General paused. His eagle like eyes swept over the hillside. He said with pride, "There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled **** in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-***** named Georgie Patton!"
 
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Really the USA is a Republic. The founding fathers of the USA did not have that high an opinion of a democracy. I dont think you will find the word democracy in the constitution or the declaration of independence or the pledge of alliegence to the flag.

Are these two mutually exclusive? A republic does not mean a country is not a democracy. A republic is one where the head of state is elected by the people - as opposed to a monarch or dictator. A democracy is one where the representatives are elected by the citizens.

But I understand that in the American political system, the President is supreme and needs to be impartial to any party, while in a true democracy, the prime minster calls the shots and has allegiance to the ruling party.
 
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Imagine if one has developed a weapon of war. One that controlled the power of god but never before used on mankind. Wouldn't you be curious to drop it on mankind and see what happens? Ask yourself if you would not be truly curious as a creater /politician?

Btw the pilot who dropped the bomb tried to commit suicide.

Possible, but could you provide a source.

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Paul Warfield Tibbets Jr., the pilot and commander of the B-29 that dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan, died Thursday, a spokesman said. He was 92.

Tibbets died at his Columbus home after a two month decline from a variety of health problems, said Gerry Newhouse, a longtime friend. Tibbets had requested no funeral and no headstone, fearing it would provide his detractors with a place to protest, Newhouse said.
"I knew when I got the assignment it was going to be an emotional thing," Tibbets told The Columbus Dispatch for a story on Aug. 6, 2005, the 60th anniversary of the bomb. "We had feelings, but we had to put them in the background. We knew it was going to kill people right and left. But my one driving interest was to do the best job I could so that we could end the killing as quickly as possible."

Tibbets, then a 30-year-old colonel, never expressed regret over his role. It was, he said, his patriotic duty — the right thing to do.

"I'm not proud that I killed 80,000 people, but I'm proud that I was able to start with nothing, plan it and have it work as perfectly as it did," he said in a 1975 interview.

"You've got to take stock and assess the situation at that time. We were at war. ... You use anything at your disposal. There are no Marquess of Queensberry rules in war.

"I sleep clearly every night."
 
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Are these two mutually exclusive? A republic does not mean a country is not a democracy. A republic is one where the head of state is elected by the people - as opposed to a monarch or dictator. A democracy is one where the representatives are elected by the citizens.

But I understand that in the American political system, the President is supreme and needs to be impartial to any party, while in a true democracy, the prime minster calls the shots and has allegiance to the ruling party.

Remember the president of the USA is not elected by popular vote but , each state assigns people called electors who vote for the ticket that won their state. The electors then get together at a big meeting called the Electoral College, where they elect the President and Vice-President, who are then sworn in and begin their term.

There has been times where the Electoral College elected a president that had the fewest popular votes.
 
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Consider what Imperial Japan did to Asia, I say the A-bombs were cosmic justice. Spare us all your crocodile tears for Japan.

oh for real? then why dont we not spare america ? heck afganistan iraq now iran? i mean you guys are trying to take over why dont we nuke NY or texas or LA its a just cause you see your country kills innocent people why dont we do the same ? or another 911?
 
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If the US had invaded Japan a lot more Japanese civilians would have died...with nukes both American soldiers and Japanese civilians were spared.

That is too simple an explanation. The effect of the nuclear attack can be felt even now, after generations, in terms of genetic and birth defects. It was not a quick and easy solution as you assume it to be.
 
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Are these two mutually exclusive? A republic does not mean a country is not a democracy. A republic is one where the head of state is elected by the people - as opposed to a monarch or dictator. A democracy is one where the representatives are elected by the citizens.

But I understand that in the American political system, the President is supreme and needs to be impartial to any party, while in a true democracy, the prime minster calls the shots and has allegiance to the ruling party.

I am not an expert on the US goverment though I have taught some highschool classes on goverment. The President is not supreme, there are 3 seperate but equal branchs of the USA goverment...Executive (president) Legisture, (House and Senate) and the Judical supreme court. All 3 acts as checks and balances on the others.
 
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That is too simple an explanation. The effect of the nuclear attack can be felt even now, after generations, in terms of genetic and birth defects. It was not a quick and easy solution as you assume it to be.


Occam's razor (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem). The popular interpretation of this principle is that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
 
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That is too simple an explanation. The effect of the nuclear attack can be felt even now, after generations, in terms of genetic and birth defects. It was not a quick and easy solution as you assume it to be.

That is the true explanation...plus when they dropped the bomb they had no idea about how long the radiation would stay. The plans called for an invasion of the cities nuked within weeks by American troops as they thought the radiation would only last so long.

Remember a lot more people died when Tokyo was firebombed compared to the atomic weapons used and still Japan was not ready to surrender. They had to be shocked into surrender and the nukes did that.
 
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I am not an expert on the US goverment though I have taught some highschool classes on goverment. The President is not supreme, there are 3 seperate but equal branchs of the USA goverment...Executive (president) Legisture, (House and Senate) and the Judical supreme court. All 3 acts as checks and balances on the others.

Those are the three estates of any democracy. Sometimes, the media is mentioned as the fourth estate.
 
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I am not shedding tears for Japan here.
I read enough from that line of criticisms about the A-bombs in WW II to know better.

Just correcting the misconception that the US nuked Japan to "save the world".
To 'save the world' is a phrase I do not recall reading from the US. Of course I am willing to be corrected. So please provide a source for that. As for the delivery of the A-bombs themselves, the US did it to put a swift end to the war.

OPERATION KETSU-GO
The sooner the Americans come, the better...One hundred million die proudly.

- Japanese slogan in the summer of 1945.
There were little credible signs that Imperial Japan was ready to surrender. Diplomatic overtures to Russia were to open the possibility of a conditional surrender, which the Allies did not want. For what Imperial Japan did to Asia and as part of a racist alliance intending to dominate the world, the unconditional surrender demand was the most appropriate, some might say the only demand. We found out later that even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed, the Japanese military command still refused to consider the Emperor's wish to surrender. A speech was prepared for the Emperor and a cadre of officers attempted a palace coup to intercept that speech and to place the Emperor under house arrest.

Ky?j? Incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The officers, in an attempt to block the decision to surrender to the Allies, killed Lieutenant General Takeshi Mori of the First Imperial Guards Division and attempted to counterfeit an order to the effect of occupying the Tokyo Imperial Palace. They attempted to place the Emperor under house-arrest, using the 2nd Brigade Imperial Guard Infantry. They failed to persuade the Eastern District Army (Japan) and the high command of the Imperial Japanese Army to move forward with the action. Due to their failure to convince the remaining army to oust the Imperial House of Japan, they ultimately committed suicide in traditional Japanese form. As a result, the communique of the intent for a Japanese surrender continued as planned.
Imperial Japan, after the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, did not intend to surrender. If the US did not have nuclear weapons or if the A-bombs failed, the only alternative to achieve the total defeat of Imperial Japan would have been an invasion and consequently an occupation. Operation Ketsu-go would go into effect. The Quantung Army, the one responsible for so many atrocities in Asia including the infamous Unit 731, was on the march home. This army was defeated by the Russians but no mean it was incapable of conducting a bloody guerrilla warfare campaign against Allied occupation forces. The Pacific war would continue on for many more bloody years.

So yes, you and many here have shed much crocodile tears for Japan. I have much admiration for Japan, as a people and as a culture, but as an Asian whose family suffered under Imperial Japan back in WW II, many of us applauded the A-bombs. Cosmic justice indeed.
 
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Have you ever read the actual speech Patton gave the troops on June 5th right befor the invasion of Europe in World War II..
Here is Mattis, probably slightly less crude than Patton but probably no less a brute when necessary...

Gen. James Mattis: Petraeus's new boss boasts a salty mouth, keen mind - CSMonitor.com
Speaking of the Taliban, he said in 2005: "It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you. I like brawling." To Iraqi military leaders in 2003, he said: ""I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you [expletive] with me, I'll kill you all."

Gen. James Mattis thinks about when, and how, American troops should put their lives at risk. - By John Dickerson - Slate Magazine
For Mattis, the teaching didn't stop once the Marines got to the fight. He constantly toured the battlefield to tell stories of Marines who were able to show discretion and cultural sensitivity in moments of high pressure—the Marines who greeted an Iraqi funeral by clearing the street and removing their helmets, or the ones who diffused a street protest by handing out water rather than raising their rifles. He told of a platoon attacked by insurgents in Al-Anbar who, after suffering brutal losses, showed kindness to the civilians caught in the crossfire. "They had just finished scraping up their buddies off the deck but showed the people respect," he says. "Those were Marines the enemy didn't succeed in turning into racists who hated everyone." In other words, Mattis called on his troops to accept more immediate risks—to not shoot, to remove helmets—in order to plant seeds for future peace.
 
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Occam's razor (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem). The popular interpretation of this principle is that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

Maybe I stated it incorrectly. I meant it is too naive an explanation.

That is the true explanation...plus when they dropped the bomb they had no idea about how long the radiation would stay. The plans called for an invasion of the cities nuked within weeks by American troops as they thought the radiation would only last so long.

The reasoning that "we did not know then" is only valid if anyone ever showed remorse for that action. The usual chest thumping that goes on shows that Truman would have done this regardless of the consequences. But I truly wonder if they did not know about the possible after effects.

This thread is based on the premise that the US is a global dictator. That is not untrue in my opinion. At the same time, if there has to be a bully, there is none better than the land of the free and the home of the brave.
 
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White people are saints and non-whites are either criminals or inferior and has to be contained at any cost.

It's got nothing to do with the colour of your skin, i don't know why people like you make such stupid comments.

There are heaps of non white countries that are peaceful, but are threatened by countries like iran. Japan for example.
 
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