US investigating possible ISI role in Mumbai attack

[BATMAN]

^^ And what was terorist interest in killing of hemant Karkaray?
Just becasue he was linking RAW and inidna army with various genocides of Muslims in india?

 

[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

India army , navy and police are responsible for mumbai attack if they had borders secured none of this would have happened

If thats the benchmark you are keeping then you must be hanging some of your army generals and IGs .

I mean the number of terrorist attacks that have taken in Pakistan..you must be holding them responsible??

 

[pak-marine]

^^ And what was terorist interest in killing of hemant Karkaray?
Just becasue he was linking RAW and inidna army with various genocides of Muslims in india?

Lets keep conspiracy theories aside for minute , lets look at it this way 5-6 gun men enters in a different country few thousand miles from their origin they have few hundred rounds and grenades and create a havoc in a mega city ........... my question is where was the big army of 1 million men ?? and my guess is all posted in Kashmir ... Indians should move some from Kashmir and secure its western borders rather than non stop rant of blaming ISI

 

[pak-marine]

If thats the benchmark you are keeping then you must be hanging some of your army generals and IGs .

I mean the number of terrorist attacks that have taken in Pakistan..you must be holding them responsible??

yes they are responsible , they took an oath to do so ... its like this in case of even one person dead the rulers are responsible . Their job is providing security they are getting paid for that !!?

 

[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

yes they are responsible , they took an oath to do so ... its like this in case of even one person dead the rulers are responsible . Their job is providing security they are getting paid for that !!?

Now tell me what can be done against them or rather what are you planning to do against those..whom you hold responsible for attacks in your country.

 

[pak-marine]

Now tell me what can be done against them or rather what are you planning to do against those..whom you hold responsible for attacks in your country.

dont confuse situation in Pak to India , there is no comparison , we have Islamic radicals which we are bearing the brunt of every single day the same kind attacks India when they have a chance our army is fighting them day and night FYI

 

[BATMAN]

Ajmal Kasab was apprehended by the Nepalese authorities in early 2006 and transferred to India

India�s Guantanomo Jails

The disclosure by a Pakistani lawyer C M Farooque that many people including Ajmal Kasab were apprehended by the Nepalese authorities in early 2006 and transferred to India for interrogation by the Indian intelligence agencies has once again raised the issue of the clandestine detention of foreign national in India and their use as clay pigeons in fake encounters to conduct coercive diplomacy against Pakistan. Ajmal Kasab is the only �survivor� from among the nine attackers who held Mumbai to ransom from 26 Nov and 29 Nov, killing 170 and injuring hundreds and forms the pivot of the Indian argument that terrorism emanating from Pakistan constitutes a casus belli that merits a punitive action against Pakistan.

According to Farooque, who is running a NGO, �Voice of Human and Prisoners� Rights� Ajmal was one of around 200 people who were apprehended before 2006 and that an application by him to the Nepal apex court was currently pending in which the Indian and the Nepalese Governments had been made respondents. Farooque had held a press conference earlier in which he had apprehended that Kasab and many of those arrested in Nepal and transferred to India would be killed in fake encounters and their bodies used to authenticate sinister scenarios fabricated by Indian agencies. RAW wields considerable influence in Nepal and the unfortunate people who got trapped by the agency had gone to Nepal on legal traveling documents. The advocate confirmed that he had filed a petition in the Nepal Supreme Court in Feb 2008 seeking Kasab�s release which had made no headway thus far.

Ever since September Eleven�s reprehensible attacks and US� aggressive and unilateral response seems to have obsessed India. To jump on to US led �fight against terror bandwagon� she has gone to and exceeded al limits in presenting herself as the victim of �cross-border-terrorism� to justify a coercive policy vis-�-vis Pakistan. Even as the communalization of India, the deepening fissures of socio-economic fault lines and the rise of Hindu Terrorism have become major sources for the rise of terrorism related incidents in India yet she has refused to acknowledge the ground realities and has been holding Pakistan accountable for all acts of terrorism in India. It is instructive to note that in Dec 2001 India used the attack on the Indian Parliament to mobilize for an impending war with Pakistan even when no evidence was available to justify such a horrendous move. The standoff lasted till Oct 2002 without emergence of any evidence that linked Pakistan to the Parliament attack. When the Supreme Court finally announced its judgment in Aug 2005, there was no mention of Pakistan�s involvement and only one of the five accused, Afzal Guru, emerged as the ultimate fall guy. As of the five attackers who were all killed by the security forces during the attack and dubbed as Pakistanis, nothing is known. There were some reports though that these were Taliban prisoners who had been arrested in Afghanistan by the newly installed government indebted to India for its sponsorship of their cause during the long struggle with Taliban.

Much like their fascination with the US evolved concept of unilateral aggression, Indians, in the post Nine Eleven global scenario, seem to be obsessed by the concept of Guantanomo Bay detention facility maintained by US and its concept of secrecy and being beyond the jurisdiction of law and accountability. In the wake of dissipation of Taliban resistance in November 2001 RAW began the operation of airlifting Pakistani and foreign nationals from Afghan jails to undisclosed locations in India. The Panjshiri warlords, indebted to Indian unflinching support during the post Sep 1996 coming to power of Taliban, provided RAW with unrestrained access to prisoners in Afghan Jails where they chose their victims at will. According to reports, in one particular incident a RAW team led by General Sunny and including Brigadier Nair and Mr. S S Phogat aka Colonel Prakash Malhotra singled out prisoners in the Dashtak Jail in Panjshir after spot interrogation. These hapless individuals were shifted by MI 17 helicopters from the Dashtak jail to 6 Frontier Corps Headquarters at Kunduz under the authority of General Qasim Fahim, who later became the Afghan Defence Minister and Younas Qanooni. After more interrogation by RAW these prisoners were heli-lifted to Dushanbe by Afghan Helicopters and later flown to undisclosed location in India by an IAF IL-76 on 25 Jun 2002.

What happened to these individuals who were picked up by India from Afghanistan outside the framework of any legal, military or moral authority? remains any ones� guess. But the increasing exposure of fake encounters by Indian security forces and the discovery of mass graves holding bodies of the victims of such encounters are leads enough to indicate to the sordid and diabolic end meted out to these innocent people. During summer this year there were the disclosures about the presence of 1000 unmarked graves in border villages around Uri in the Indian Held Kashmir. The villagers said that they had no ideas who were the buried men and that the police told them that the men were foreign militants killed in fighting with Indian troops. One can�t cease speculating how many of those lifted from Afghanistan now lie at the bottom of such soggy pits in Kashmir and else where.

The 26 � 29 November Mumbai attacks have elicited an established response from India of blaming Pakistan for all and sundry acts of terrorism occurring in India; even before conducting a proper inquiry and establishing the facts. The statement of Advocate Farooq, duly supported with legal facts establish that Ajmal Kasab was picked up by the Indian agencies from Nepal and he is now being used as a pawn in the Indian explanation of the Mumbai incident that places the onus of responsibility on Pakistan. The disclosure also goes to confirm reports that India is holding foreign and Pakistani nationals in undisclosed jails a la Guantanomo where the incarcerated people have no access to law and who act as cannon fodder in fake encounters that help India conduct her policy of coercion with Pakistan. Pakistan , also, needs to take up the matter with the Nepalese Government to circumscribe the untrammeled liberty of action enjoyed by the Indian intelligence agencies in Nepal, to the detriment of Pakistan.

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I hope this puts an end to the falsification of sea route.

 

[ek_indian]

Ajmal Kasab was apprehended by the Nepalese authorities in early 2006 and transferred to India



I hope this puts an end to the falsification of sea route.

Thanks dear. That was really funny.

 

[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

dont confuse situation in Pak to India , there is no comparison , we have Islamic radicals which we are bearing the brunt of every single day

Well situation is similar in our both countries, than you would think.
These same Islamic radicals are responsible for attacks in this country too.

the same kind attacks India when they have a chance our army is fighting them day and night FYI

We hope you fight them and eliminate them all and not be partial towards some groups.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Its just a game, if Pakistan will refuse any cooperation it will be labeled with Mumbai issue -

Non cooperation meaning
a)Refusing drone attacks
b) Refusing killing of local civilians border
c) Any moral help to neighbouring countries
d) Any trade that effects other countrie's interest

Just like Turkey is threatened with genocide tag

 

[Tshering22]

US investigating possible ISI role in Mumbai attack - India - The Times of India

WASHINGTON: In the wake of India's assertion that ISI was involved in the Mumbai attacks, the Obama Administration has said it was investigating the matter to find out whether Pakistan's spy agency played a role in the 26/11 terror strikes.

"We are very much engaged in this question," a senior administration official said, when asked about the statements made by home secretary G K Pillai and national security advisor Shivshankar Menon that ISI had played a role in planning and execution of the Mumbai terror attacks.

The official, who requested anonymity, said that the matter was under investigation and he would not like to comment till the probe was over.

The revelation about ISI role in 26/11 had not only come from the interrogation of Pakistani-American LeT operative David Headley, but also through India's own investigation which had been shared with the US officials.

Pakistan, for its part, has strongly denied that ISI had any role.

It is understood that the issue was raised when US national security advisor James Jones met his Indian counterpart during his trip to New Delhi this month.

It is learnt that officials of the Obama administration were more considerate than ever about the Indian assertion against the ISI.

In fact, Pakistan has been told by top American officials, who visited Islamabad, this month that "it must" take strong action against those involved in the Mumbai terrorist attacks and that this would be the barometer of its sincerity and willingness to improve its relationship with India.

"The message has been delivered quite forcefully and quite convincingly," Gen Jones had told an Indian channel.

Pakistan must recognise that it is contrary to their own interests for the future and the stability of the region to continue to tolerate the existence of insurgents within their borders, he said.

"So as a first means of correcting that then, as a first means of showing that Pakistan wants the same things we want and has the same values we want, they have to make the tough decision to go after these terrorist organisations and state, I think, concretely and publicly that this, as a matter of policy cannot be tolerated," he said.

The US needs Pakistan now. They have the Americans by their necks because of the supply route that goes from Pakistani territory into Afghanistan. There's no word on US accepting Russian offer and have continued to opt for Pakistan instead.

Take my words, US won't do anything and this investigation will die down just like many others. Besides, apart from geo-politics I don't think we need their stamp to be convinced of our own threats.

The Pentagon will say "Pakistani government is committed to eradicate terror" and the case will be closed and the following month, we'd see a shipment of AH-1 Super Cobras and 3 dozen F-16s to "balance" us.

 

[mjnaushad]

The US needs Pakistan now. They have the Americans by their necks because of the supply route that goes from Pakistani territory into Afghanistan. There's no word on US accepting Russian offer and have continued to opt for Pakistan instead.

Take my words, US won't do anything and this investigation will die down just like many others. Besides, apart from geo-politics I don't think we need their stamp to be convinced of our own threats.

The Pentagon will say "Pakistani government is committed to eradicate terror" and the case will be closed and the following month, we'd see a shipment of AH-1 Super Cobras and 3 dozen F-16s to "balance" us.

Quite true.......

But a little correction....US wont do anything not because it needs us but because US know all these reports are false......

 

[Imran Khan]

as i think usa should today investgate more abut wiki leakes.

 

[SMC]

Pakistan it self responsible for that in past your gov funded Taliban now they are out of control.

Letest wikileaks also prove that point ...

If you want i can post some links ?????

WikiLeaks proves nothing.

1. No concrete evidence has been provided.
2. It is raw and unverified intelligence.
3. It is intelligence from Afghan Intelligence.
4. US continues to provide us aid, sell us weapons. Use your brain for a second and think whether they would give us aid if Pakistan was aiding Taliban.
5. US with its influence and diplomatic leverage has done little against Pakistan on a public level. Again, use your brain to make something that make sense out of this.

See ya.

 

[ramu]

WikiLeaks proves nothing.

1. No concrete evidence has been provided.
2. It is raw and unverified intelligence.
3. It is intelligence from Afghan Intelligence.
4. US continues to provide us aid, sell us weapons. Use your brain for a second and think whether they would give us aid if Pakistan was aiding Taliban.
5. US with its influence and diplomatic leverage has done little against Pakistan on a public level. Again, use your brain to make something that make sense out of this.

See ya.

Define the content of concrete evidence. Also provide an example evidence you think is available to the public that you believe is concrete enough and is against any state.