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US has won against Turkey... US pastor free...

LOL.. What a way to say to save face for Turkish.. Previously, this is not what most turkish member say.. They claim they are superpower. US is not able to force anything on them including forcing them on the release of US pastor. Now you claim its Erdogan fault, release of US pastor is expected.

Thanks, the turkish members will love you for helping to avoid the embarrassment.

There are always 2 arguments to any thing and it is our bias which decides. Yes you can say they released him but here you forget that you and me are from east and for us the determination to stand ground.d is different and our cultures tells us the stance of being proud is different. Turkey is at the edge of Europe and they have to value their free system and society. It is difference of perception. I would not call you totally wrong because they should have kept him in prison for at least six more month but then again what was the point of keeping him in prison if he was not going to be executed?
 
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LOL, Your GDP is 1.85 trillion USD while Turkey 857 billion USD. Your economy is around twice of Turkish economy.


Difference is, we dont have a 25% inflation. :) and less people.
 
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The city of Milano alone has almost an economy the size of entire Turkey.

I visited Turkey. Its a very poor country. That was in 2013. Now its worse because their economic collapse

And btw, Istanbul is a shithole.


garbage Italy is shit ,,, Milano is full of shit ...... dont compare garbage Milano with ISTANBUL
ISTANBUL has bigger GDP than Milano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP

open your eyes and stop dreaming ,, the EU is fucked up with over $30 trillion of external debt and over 100 millions of poor population



List of countries by external debt

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United Kingdom 8,475,956,000,000
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France 5,689,745,000,000
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png
Germany 5,398,267,000,000
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Netherlands 4,510,400,000,000
23px-Flag_of_Luxembourg.svg.png
Luxembourg 3,781,000,000,000
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Italy 2,510,690,000,000
23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png
Ireland 2,384,247,000,000
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Spain 2,259,127,000,000
23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png
Belgium 1,278,465,000,000
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Sweden 135,739,662,900
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Austria 638,340,000,000
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Norway 623,223,000,000
20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png
Denmark 491,617,000,000
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png
Finland 483,369,000,000
23px-Flag_of_Greece.svg.png
Greece 476,997,000,000
23px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png
Portugal 447,022,000,000


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Turkey 453,207,000,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
 
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GDP Nominal does not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the Country's currency

but GDP PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using International Market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income

GDP PPP is often used to gauge global poverty thresholds and is used by the United Nations in constructing the human development index


so what about International Market exchange rates ? shitty Greece use Euro , shitty Netherlands use Euro , shitty Italy uses euro

but Turkey use Lira ,, Turkish economy is one of the fastest growing economy in the world
Turkey is under attack by The US,,Israel,,Germany backed Pkk,,Daesh,Hdp and FETO terrorists since 2013
and 1 USD rose from 1.8 Turkish liras to 6 Turkish liras between 2013 and 2018



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

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China 23,159,107
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United States 19,390,600
3
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India 9,459,002
4
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Japan 5,428,813
5
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Germany 4,170,790
6
23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png
Russia 4,007,831
7
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Indonesia 3,242,771
8
22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png
Brazil 3,240,319
9
23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png
United Kingdom 2,914,042
10
23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png
France 2,835,746
11
23px-Flag_of_Mexico.svg.png
Mexico 2,458,357
12
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png
Italy 2,310,902
13
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png
Turkey 2,173,227
14
23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png
South Korea 2,029,032
15
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png
Spain 1,773,906
16
23px-Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg.png
Saudi Arabia 1,773,551
17
23px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.png
Canada 1,769,270
18
23px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png
Iran 1,644,705
19
23px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png
Australia 1,246,475
20
23px-Flag_of_Thailand.svg.png
Thailand 1,233,737
 
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Lol Milano has bigger economy than entire Turkey.

bzw poor by EU stadards is Turkish upper class standards. Poor in EU means you have only one vacation per year. In Turkey poor means hunger and death


nahhhhhhhhhhh ... Italy has $2,3 trillion of GDP PPP and Turkey has $2,1 trillion of GDP PPP

Italy uses euro ........ in reality Italy has $2,3 trillion of gross domestic product based on purchasing power parity
Turkey uses Lira ...... in reality Turkey has $2.1 trillion of gross domestic product based on purchasing power parity

GDP PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using International Market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income

GDP PPP is often used to gauge global poverty thresholds and is used by the United Nations in constructing the human development index


nobody is hunger and death in Turkey
even Syrian refugees are not hunger .. Turkey spent over $32 billion for 3,9 million Syrian refugees in Turkey


Europe is garbage ,, old dirty cities , shitty houses , gay,homo,narkoman,rapist people is everywhere
 
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Lol Milano has bigger economy than entire Turkey.

bzw poor by EU stadards is Turkish upper class standards. Poor in EU means you have only one vacation per year. In Turkey poor means hunger and death.

You have 25% inflation, mass poverty and live in shit. I visited Turkey and was disgusted. It doesnt match the standards i´m used too. You cant even drink the tap water there.

That said of course you have low debt. People dont lend Turkey money ha ha ha ha ha
look who's bitching here, the US spanked ur *** in ww2 or have u forgotten, they came to ur land and fucked it while u little italian fagotts cheerfully bent over while turkey fucked the allies at Gallipoli, no foriegn forces have ever conquered the turks while ur nothing but a little bitch of the Us. Look just keep making shoes okay, i always feel relieved wearing italian on my feet.
 
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look who's bitching here, the US spanked ur *** in ww2 or have u forgotten, they came to ur land and fucked it while u little italian fagotts cheerfully bent over while turkey fucked the allies at Gallipoli, no foriegn forces have ever conquered the turks while ur nothing but a little bitch of the Us. Look just keep making shoes okay, i always feel relieved wearing italian on my feet.

Italian War History: Switch Sides when shit hits the fan and win the war lmaooo
 
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The Pastor is free and Turkish justice system freed him. So this shows the Turkish justice is not influenced by erdogan.
Now on Erdogan defeat from Trump is a bit far fetched idea. Still there remains many issues where Trump and Erdogan are at odds.

Nonsense .

They arrested an innocent pastor for two years for no reason - how reliable is such a system ?

Than : " We are working with our close ally , the USA to solve this crises " ( That is what a responsible leader would have said under the circumstances. )

But instead Erdogan first demanded to free the pastor in exchange for Fethullah Gülen. Than promised to release him in exchange of a turkish citizen held in israel and went back on his word.

Than he lashed at the US saying they have no tight to interfere in turkey affairs and that he himself cant influence the court.

After a few months sanctions , he was persuaded to " see the light " and showed that he can in fact release him and the sanction suffered.

The whole crises could have been avoided had turkey not have been led by this caprizic person.



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Mard e Momin erdogan the sultan is all talk. what did he say? My Hands are tied before the honorable judges only they could decide that pastor's fate . don't know whether he was given any assurances that the Turkish economy is going to be put back on track?

@Hakikat ve Hikmet always stay away from the man in power and the cops. they are no one's friends.
 
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The difference is, We have a 15 times bigger economy than Turkey...and we dont shout to trump: "Please! hit me harder daddy!"

:D ha ha ha
your economy is NOT 15 times Turkey's economy. Your GDP is $1.9trn while TUrkey is $850bn, so that is a little over 2 times. stop exaggerating.
 
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Mard e Momin erdogan the sultan is all talk. what did he say? My Hands are tied before the honorable judges only they could decide that pastor's fate . don't know whether he was given any assurances that the Turkish economy is going to be put back on track?

@Hakikat ve Hikmet always stay away from the man in power and the cops. they are no one's friends.
If the Deep Nation doesn't support its very own Deep State and vice versa, then who will????? By the by, the common folks throw themselves under the tanks for Reis Erdo'an!!!!

Anyway, it looks like a good bargain from the Reis for the following reasons:
  • External financial pressure is lessened, so fiscal reforms can be strengthened
  • Confidence of the international investors is boosted further
  • Putting TL in the forefront of the international trade/investment can be fast tracked
  • Paving the way for putting the Turkish forces inside the currently US supported PKK/YPG held regions inside Syria
  • Unhindered growth of the indigenous military industrial complex
  • Chasing the outsiders away from looking for petrol/gas in the Mediterranean regions near Turkey
  • etc.
 
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