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As expected, USA is the best friend of Pakistan, not China.
US Government vs Congress: Sale of F16s to Pakistan
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Look like @MastanKhan nuclear threat worked 
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We will be the judge of that. Thank you for your opinion, though.
On topic: It's time to observe patiently. No need to do anything emotional or rash. Statements that came out of Pakistan were poorly worded and not very well thought out. Diplomacy may be the weakest link in our efforts. A peculiar curse of N government.
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Dear neighbours, Yes everyone wants to be friend of us as we deserve it.Why neighbor country do not wish so.Always busy in conspiracy and leg pulling?
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Ah....the Indian school of thoughts.... more Royal than the Royals.
The writing on the wall people often miss.
''The official noted that while Congress had not sought to block the sale, key members had made it clear that they objected to using FMF to support the sale.''
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America want to sideline Pakistan...
America want Pakistan at any cost...
This circus is going on since last 5 decades... this is America who will decide.. whether US need Pakistan or not because... Pakistan has many parallel where as US don't have any .... a country where US actually now a days busy in Japi&Papi not going to help US much because she has barriers from all side (China, Pakistan now Nepal and Srilanka already show strong reservations against that state). So ball in US Court, US want Pakistan or not... else Pakistan options but US don't have in real...
Rest containing China through India is like... tackling Lion with infant baby...
PS: Upcoming baba begerat G aka Donald Duck oh sorry Donald Trump, IMO, the relation btw Pakistan and US will remain the same because Pentagon will never ever leave Pakistan nor listen bakwaas of Trump against Pakistan (practically don't do anything against Pakistan).
America want Pakistan at any cost...
This circus is going on since last 5 decades... this is America who will decide.. whether US need Pakistan or not because... Pakistan has many parallel where as US don't have any .... a country where US actually now a days busy in Japi&Papi not going to help US much because she has barriers from all side (China, Pakistan now Nepal and Srilanka already show strong reservations against that state). So ball in US Court, US want Pakistan or not... else Pakistan options but US don't have in real...
Rest containing China through India is like... tackling Lion with infant baby...
PS: Upcoming baba begerat G aka Donald Duck oh sorry Donald Trump, IMO, the relation btw Pakistan and US will remain the same because Pentagon will never ever leave Pakistan nor listen bakwaas of Trump against Pakistan (practically don't do anything against Pakistan).
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Are you writing comedy perchance?
Pakistan has many options but US has none? In any sane platform you would be laughed out of the room. To start with what about all of your ME allies? What about almost all of Europe? What about ASEAN countries? What about India? SL and Nepal would give an arm and a half to gain US support and SL infact is doing exactly that
That may be so but containment is easy. China keeps India busy with Pakistan - country many numbers smaller, If containment is all that is needed India can keep China tied up by behaving as Pakistan does for centuries.
It is another matter India is not interested in being a US proxy like you were for US against USSR. We have good economic ties with China, there have been no active crossfire for years, incursions on both sides are taken care of through well established local channels. India keeps all it's options open, our front end systems are mostly Russian and Israeli, support systems Americans and all are projected to be replaced by local systems. We don't have any defence alliance with US or any other country leaving us free to chart our own course.
Where as Pakistan will collapse if tomorrow China, Arabs and US led institutions stop feeding it money.
I know you guys like going ga ga in your delusions but sometimes reality check is a good thing.
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There is NO CHANGE in the Situation
US is asking for FULL PAYMENT
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http://www.dawn.com/news/1257224/us-govt-supports-sale-of-f-16s-to-pakistan-official
“Given the Congressional objections, we have told the Pakistanis that they should
put forward national funds for the purchase,” the official said.
But “we support the sale, and we will continue to work with Congress.
However, we have told the Pakistanis that they should
put forward national funds for the purchase, given Congressional objections,” he added.
US is asking for FULL PAYMENT
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http://www.dawn.com/news/1257224/us-govt-supports-sale-of-f-16s-to-pakistan-official
“Given the Congressional objections, we have told the Pakistanis that they should
put forward national funds for the purchase,” the official said.
But “we support the sale, and we will continue to work with Congress.
However, we have told the Pakistanis that they should
put forward national funds for the purchase, given Congressional objections,” he added.
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Previously, US to Pakistan >>>>>> ''DO MORE''
Presently, Pakistan to US >>>>>>> '' SHOW ME HOW IT'S DONE''. !!
Missed some....the heartbreak is imminent.
When asked what the State Department was doing to deal with the situation caused by the congressional restrictions, he said: “I would prefer to keep the details of our conversations with the Hill and Pakistan on this issue private.”
Presently, Pakistan to US >>>>>>> '' SHOW ME HOW IT'S DONE''. !!
Missed some....the heartbreak is imminent.
When asked what the State Department was doing to deal with the situation caused by the congressional restrictions, he said: “I would prefer to keep the details of our conversations with the Hill and Pakistan on this issue private.”
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You try to get them ; we will try to stop them ie at a subsidised price
What is the HARM in Trying ; Best of Luck
I am sure Indian Government and Lobbyists are watching the situation
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Realistically speaking : If Obama tries to release the subsidy then
TRUMP will be all over the Democratic party for WEAKNESS and Indecisiveness
And Hillary will be affected
You must remember that Pakistan Figures PROMINENTLY in the
Foreign Policy debates
On May 2 ie OBL anniversary Both Trump and Clinton had used strong words
on Pakistan
Soon the FORMAL debates will commence and Obama would be FOOLISH
to weaken his own Party
This is now a Political Hot potato
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Please read this news ; it is a SEPARATE news not related to F 16
but it is about the MOOD in Washington
https://www.dawn.com/news/1256865
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AS much as you like to express your own thoughts and wishes, the reality is somewhat different to what you would have us believe.
Just to give you an idea, Pakistan also figured prominently before Obama took to the White House, in fact he's on record for saying he would attack Pakistan if he becomes President.....now he is the ardent supporter of these F-16s for Pakistan.....obviously India or rather Indians get all exited when some speak against Pakistan ....but who has the last laugh.....i guess Indians never learn.
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