US Fleeing From Afghanistan - then what?

[Oldman1]

It is interesting to note that the writer believes the Taliban will not be able to control all of Afghanistan once the Americans go.

If that is true, the only logical alternative is that the pakhtun part of Afghanistan will become a part of Pakistan, officially or de facto.

The Taliban wasn't in control of Afghanistan even before 9/11.

 

[jamal18]

The Taliban wasn't in control of Afghanistan even before 9/11.

No, infact they were, except foe a miniscule part of the north.

They were more in control then nato is now; they successfully banned opium.

Ahmad, I don't see a pakhtun only half of Afghanistan as a viable state whatever people like or dislike. Its not a matter of choice, its a matter of economics.

 

[Oldman1]

No, infact they were, except foe a miniscule part of the north.

They were more in control then nato is now; they successfully banned opium.

Ahmad, I don't see a pakhtun only half of Afghanistan as a viable state whatever people like or dislike. Its not a matter of choice, its a matter of economics.

Opium production is up because the Taliban needed funding for the war after the invasion. Common sense. If they can't control even a small part of the country then they are not in control.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

After US leaves Pakistan should add Afghanistan as additional province and setup a Army base , and move in police to help people in Afghanistan and add people into paliment from Afghanistan end of story

 

[Ahmad]

Ahmad, I don't see a pakhtun only half of Afghanistan as a viable state whatever people like or dislike.

I didnt understand this?

Its not a matter of choice, its a matter of economics.

Leave choice and economics in their place, what matter is the will and what they want.

 

[asad71]

void. sorry double post.

 

[asad71]

Opium production is up because the Taliban needed funding for the war after the invasion. Common sense. If they can't control even a small part of the country then they are not in control.

1. That is incorrect. On request by UN and to keep the nation clean, IEA had literally overnight stopped 95% production of opium. UN Secy Gen himself applauded this achievement and personally thanked Mulla Omar.

2. But the main stake holders in opium production are US users and US banks. They say, if all drugs were controlled many of US banks/financial institutions would collapse. Therefore, can we rubbish the claims made by some that uninterrupted opium production, to ensure US drug industry running, was one of the reasons for the unwarranted Afghan invasion?

3. IEA will control opium production as it suits them. It has nothing to do with control over the nation. As Castro says, USA should control its citizens from taking drugs; the problem would be over instantly.

 

[LaBong]

I agree with you. Kashmiri jihad will get another boost. Happened before. But there is a move by Russia-India-USA to keep the Pashtuns busy fighting the N Alliance. Because of the Shia factor Iran could also be drawn in. Pakistan needs to work out diplomatic contingencies beside boosting assistance to IEA.

Instead of praying for the Pashtuns to Jihad and die while they are at it, why not Bangladeshish living in Canada join the Jihadis & face the music eh?

 

[DADU]

Mujib why are you so obsessed with Pakistan????
Whatever happens with NATO involvement in that region is matter between the neighbours to decide. NOTHING TO DO WITH BANGLADESH!!!!!
I personally have nothing against the Bangladeshis but you seem to have strong obsession with PAK.

I have seen you using your energy to the full on Indian and even Australian forums trying to dictate what actions the Pak Military should take.
In all senses and purposes this is for the Pak Army to decide.

As regard to the post I’m sure it’s quite clear what the scenario will be for afghan.
Nato will have to leave and very likely Taliban will come back….
But Pak army will have to tread very carefully with the approach to the Taliban.
E.G. after 9/11 Pakistan exhausted all efforts to make available the serious situation the talibvan were in and for them to hand over bin ladeon …
But unfortunately they did not understand the seriousness of the situation at the time and also this excuse that the Taliban were bound by pashtunwali is nonsense.

Bin ladeon was only helped because he gave out millions to the Taliban and his AQ organisation worked with the Taliban to kill and locate their enemies such as Ahmad Shah Massoud.
A worrying situation would be if Taliban in power in afghan then some elements of it could shelter terrorists that have killed our soldiers/civilians and whom the Pak Army is fighting now in NWFP .

SO THE DICE WILL HAVE TO BE CONTROLLED CAREFULLY….

 

[asad71]

Instead praying for the Pashtuns to Jihad and die where they are at it, why not Bangladeshish living in Canada join the Jihadis & face the music eh?

void. double post

 

[asad71]

Instead praying for the Pashtuns to Jihad and die where they are at it, why not Bangladeshish living in Canada join the Jihadis & face the music eh?

You probably didn't know Bengalee Muslims were always in the forefront of jihad - in fighting or in providing support. During the 1857 Uprising, the jihad against the Sikhs in the Frontier under Shaheed Syed Ahmed Berlavi and Gen Ismail, Faraizi/ Faqir/ Majnu uprisings in Eastern subcontinent, in the continuous fights against the Firingi kafirs in the Frontier, in the Khilafat Movement when we sent volunteers and donation to Turkey to save the Caliphate, in Palestine where many Bengalee Muslim youth embraced martyrdom, in Afghanistan, in Kashmir, in Chechnya, in Bosnia, in Acheh (where the founder of the movement was an ex-Serviceman from Comilla) and elsewhere. The society honors them and respects their families. Btw, even Indian Muslims have been seen in many jihad fronts.

 

[jamal18]

Ahmad, yes will and what people want is important. Nothing can be imposed on the Afghan people because it will simply not work.

For Pakistan to be involved in Aghanistan in any way against the wishes of the Afghan people will be a disaster for Pakistan, whose financial resources are a lot more limited than that of nato. However, to let Afghanistan go into meltdown will, as in the past, have a very negative impact on Pakistan as in the past.

Even the option of fencing it off doesn't work.

 

[CENTCOM]

if usa leaves, terrorism will stop.

It is too naive to think so. The taliban/mullah/wahabi brigade senses blood in the water and will stop at nothing to get control of Pakistan, unless they are stopped. The US can only help in fighting this scourge.

Dear readers, to see progress we need do no more than compare dark rule under the Taliban with the elected government and freedom Afghans now enjoy. Has not Afghanistan’s future improved dramatically now that its land, its blood and its people are free from Taliban rule? Afghanistan, long suppressed under the brutal Taliban regime, is now showing prosperity where none existed under the Taliban, because the hard work of Afghan, US and NATO forces is leading the nation towards self determination. A nation once crumbling under the Taliban dictatorship now allows its citizens a better quality of life. Are there not more economic and educational opportunities than there were under the Taliban? Is not the Afghan National Army receiving, under the guidance of US and NATO forces, the proper training to independently protect the nation? Does not this training ensure that the tempo and mode of Taliban atrocities will decline until 2014 when the Afghan Security Forces are able to defeat the Taliban by themselves?

Today, by contrast, the US and international community invests in every aspect of Afghan life to provide the humanitarian aid, development assistance, civil infrastructure, security and stability that allows the people of Afghanistan to restore, reform and rebuild what was destroyed under the Taliban regime. Does not, dear readers, the drawdown of our troops indicate that Afghanistan continues its progression toward successful security transition? Does not, dear readers, our successful phased drawdown from Iraq provide an example of what the future holds for a free Afghanistan ready and able to defend itself?

CDR Speaks,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

 

[Imran Khan]

US Fleeing From Afghanistan - then what?
be ready for flood of blood more migrants more drugs more arms more mess .

 

[Paan Singh]

Dear readers, to see progress we need do no more than compare dark rule under the Taliban with the elected government and freedom Afghans now enjoy. Has not Afghanistan’s future improved dramatically now that its land, its blood and its people are free from Taliban rule? Afghanistan, long suppressed under the brutal Taliban regime, is now showing prosperity where none existed under the Taliban, because the hard work of Afghan, US and NATO forces is leading the nation towards self determination. A nation once crumbling under the Taliban dictatorship now allows its citizens a better quality of life. Are there not more economic and educational opportunities than there were under the Taliban? Is not the Afghan National Army receiving, under the guidance of US and NATO forces, the proper training to independently protect the nation? Does not this training ensure that the tempo and mode of Taliban atrocities will decline until 2014 when the Afghan Security Forces are able to defeat the Taliban by themselves?

Today, by contrast, the US and international community invests in every aspect of Afghan life to provide the humanitarian aid, development assistance, civil infrastructure, security and stability that allows the people of Afghanistan to restore, reform and rebuild what was destroyed under the Taliban regime. Does not, dear readers, the drawdown of our troops indicate that Afghanistan continues its progression toward successful security transition? Does not, dear readers, our successful phased drawdown from Iraq provide an example of what the future holds for a free Afghanistan ready and able to defend itself?

CDR Speaks,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

1)if you are correct with your mentioned points,then one thing is sure,all your developments will go in bin,after your departure they will come back and take the a-stan to same position where it used to be.
2)Their military will be dissolved with taliban.
3)and pakistan will never want strong a-stan.
4)even many afghans are against u,coz u bomb those innocents.

so nato forces leave or remain but i believe usa must live there atleast for a decade,so that atleast a generation can be improved.
but unfortunately u guys have given up and points 1,2,3 are going to happen.