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US 'encourages both India and Pakistan to talk to each other on all the issues'

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C'mon folks.. Wait for 36 hours.. Why react to useless media drivel specially since we know their (media's) track record on these things.. All of us will end up creating unnecessary threads /posts here , half of which will degenerate into mud slinging matches..

Actual presss conference transcripts excluded of course..
 
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"Holbrooke, however, said the US encouraged both India and Pakistan to talk to each other on all the issues."

On a different tack, does this count as a 'constructive role'?
 
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Aircrafts- india buys from russia or co produce with russia or produce by themselves.
Nope.:disagree: We are buying P-8Is from USA. USA is also contender for MRCA

Submarines, frigates and aircraft carriers- from russia or produce locally.

True for the time being. :agree:

Missiles- produce or co produce with russia, france isreal or buy from them.

Hmm...we will buy AMRAAM from USA if western fighter wins MRCA. Also we just bought smart cluster bombs from USA. India also put out RFIs for loitering missiles, and USA is leader in that field

guns- russia and isreal are more sources.

Yes.:agree: No chance india will go for US M-16 assault rifles. In fact, i can't think of any US small arm India would want.

radars- make locally or from isreal.

Again, that can change if USA gives us ToT their AESA radars. Also, USA offered us ASTOR radar systems.

Tanks- made locally or bu from russia.

true. :agree: US tanks are too heavy for Thar desert

Border toys ( artillery)like howitzers and all from russia, isreal and sweden.

No. :disagree:We just ordered 145 M777 howitzers.

I see a very little US arms to Indians like few small arms guns, helicopters and big cargo aircrafts.

You forgot to mention UCAVs. Which we currently get from Israel or produce locally. But USA can become a primary supplier if they give us ToT.
 
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You said the US needs Pakistan for its arms purchases since India and China look elsewhere, and I pointed out that your argument is invalid since Pakistan does not figure in the list of major arms purchasers of late, which means that the US does not need Pakistan.

And where did the credit, free aid etc. come into the discussion?



Qureshi submits new weapon wish list to America
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Lalit K Jha

Washington, Mar 24 (PTI) As the US and Pakistan open their strategic dialogue to strengthen rocky ties, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has submitted a new weapon wish list to America looking for big ticket systems.

The 56-page wish list submitted to the Obama Administration by Pakistan in fact mostly seeks those equipments that can bring the country on par with the military might of India.

Post 9/11, Pakistan has received more than USD 7 billion worth of arms sale from the US, authoritative sources said.

In fact, major US arms sales and grants to Pakistan since 2001 have included items useful for counter terrorism and counterinsurgency operations, along with a number of "big ticket" platforms more suited to conventional warfare; which is primarily targeted against India.


fullstory
 
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Qureshi submits new weapon wish list to America
Share Print E-mail Comment[ - ] Text [ + ]STAFF WRITER 16:19 HRS IST
Lalit K Jha

Washington, Mar 24 (PTI) As the US and Pakistan open their strategic dialogue to strengthen rocky ties, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has submitted a new weapon wish list to America looking for big ticket systems.

The 56-page wish list submitted to the Obama Administration by Pakistan in fact mostly seeks those equipments that can bring the country on par with the military might of India.

Post 9/11, Pakistan has received more than USD 7 billion worth of arms sale from the US, authoritative sources said.

In fact, major US arms sales and grants to Pakistan since 2001 have included items useful for counter terrorism and counterinsurgency operations, along with a number of "big ticket" platforms more suited to conventional warfare; which is primarily targeted against India.


fullstory

And what does this have to do with the US 'needing' Pakistan as a market for its weapons? Most of the equipment being supplied will likely be through US aid and possibly long term financing.

And what exactly is the list of 'big ticket' weapons being negotiated that the article speaks of?
 
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And what does this have to do with the US 'needing' Pakistan as a market for its weapons? Most of the equipment being supplied will likely be through US aid and possibly long term financing.

And what exactly is the list of 'big ticket' weapons being negotiated that the article speaks of?

any arms supply comes with the service including upgrades , maintainance , spares etc.

Pakistan has been a steady customer for US more than India.

Equipments including hand guns, sub machine guns, assault rifles,battle rifles, grenades, sniper rifles , machine guns , armored personal carriers ( like M113,btr-70,m-88), armoured bridging vehicles, artillery including M-110, M-109a2, etc) attack helicopters like cobra,bell, anti tank missiles like BGM-71 TOW, air defence systems like FIM-43 Redeye, FIM-92 Stinger, anti air craft guns, aircrafts like f-16s, airbus-a310, cessna,huron, hercules, f-86 sabre, starfighter, canberra, lockheedt-33, albatros , etc etc etc,,

if you compare these list with similar products of India, u can see US is nobody compared to other suppliers.

Long term financing and aid money is a temporary thing, nobody expects Pakistan to run its armed forces in aids money for a long time.

Big ticket weapons could be drones, missiles, radar tehnologies , F-16s and god knows what.
 
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