‘US election shaping up as contest between which candidate hates China more’

[beijingwalker]

I got a feeling that both of them will end up having Corona before the election day.

 

[Dalit]

The Americans used to do this with Pakistan during election seasons.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Just check American economic outlook before COVID-19 pandemic. GDP growth rate exceeded 4% and unemployment level was at its 50 year low (3.5%).

that was unsustainable due to corporate tax cuts, hot money flooding the stock market and the rise of contract slave labor jobs over previous middle class permanent jobs. think Uber driver vs. engineer at IBM.

consumption is being strangled by the student loan crisis (1.6T USD). People being crushed by student debt don't have the capability to either spend OR save - not even 500 USD.

64% of Americans cannot afford a $500 emergency. And as proof that consumption is being strangled, US energy consumption is flat, the retail market is flat, the only market that is not flat is housing and stocks.

wages have stagnated, indicating that GDP growth was not going to ordinary people but rather solely to the top, further supporting the observation that the economic "growth" during the Trump administration was mostly due to finance and not due to improved productivity.

CoVID-19 did not cause the recession you see today. It was a long time in the making. The coincidence of Fed money printing, student loan debt, rise of contract slave labor jobs with few benefits or security, flat consumption and low savings all but guaranteed a massive bubble.

 

[925boy]

As the election draws closer, what matters to the voters is the US economy - jobs, jobs, jobs!

hmm...but also identity, identity,identity...US is at a crucial time IN ITS LIFE....its old azz constitution needs to be modified, the allocation of govt funds in the yearly budget needs to be realigned..the country is very visibly corrupt now..needs internal work on self now...

 

[Menthol]

What is China's fault?

About doing the right thing.


Welcome to the modern world, when even helping people and doing charity will ended in jail as criminal.

 

[bolo]

‘US election shaping up as contest between which candidate hates China more’
July. 17 2020
Tokyo [Japan], July 18 (ANI): As relations between Washington and Beijing worsen over a range of issues, the upcoming US election is shaping up as a contest between which candidate hates China more, suggests William Pesek.

The relations between US and China have been on a downward spiral over issues ranging from coronavirus pandemic to Hong Kong to human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

In an article in Nikkei Asian Review, Pesek said: “The U.S. election is shaping up as a contest between which candidate hates China more: President Donald Trump or former Vice President Joe Biden?”

For now, Pesek noted, the advantage is Trump’s, who on Tuesday ended Hong Kong’s special status with the U.S., which allowed the city direct access to key U.S. sectors like technology and defense. “He also signed legislation requiring sanctions against Chinese officials involved in Beijing’s crackdown in the former British colony and the banks they deal with.”

US President Donald Trump had on Tuesday signed a legislation and executive order authorising sanctions against China for its oppressive actions against the people of Hong Kong.

“Today, I signed legislation and an Executive Order to old China accountable for its oppressive actions against the people of Hong Kong,” Trump had said.

China’s move to impose national security law in Hong Kong has drawn fierce criticism, with many saying it is aimed at crushing dissent in the erstwhile British colony which saw massive pro-democracy protests last year.

“Trump’s actions demonstrate the extent to which November 3 will be a race to the bottom to see who can be harsher toward China. Your move, Joe,” the article read.

Pesek said the Central question for this election should be who has the best plan to keep the U.S. on top of the great power struggle. Americans trying to decide might consider why China’s President Xi Jinping seems to fear Biden more than another four years of Trump, he stated.

While noting that the ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) “loathes the trade war, the Twitter tantrums and Trump’s racist remarks about the coronavirus’ origins”, Pesek said the “more Trump damages America’s global standing, the closer China is to realizing its hegemonic aspirations.”

“In sharp contrast, a Biden presidency promises a return to the Democratic Party’s traditional approach toward Beijing. That means using a multilateral approach that puts human rights, environmental concerns and government censorship at the front end of trade talks, not as retaliatory cudgels to bash China,” he said.

China has been trying to bully its smaller neighbours with its muscle power. Its territorial claims have aggravated tensions in the region.

Pesek, however, also cautioned that Biden must not overplay his hand. “He is not an economic guru. Foreign policy is his comfort zone and he will need some semblance of a relationship for his approach to work,” he said.

He stated that Biden, who has earlier served as Vice-President, would reengage the world, would keep US in WHO, reenter Paris Climate Accord and the Iran Nuclear Deal.

“He would reach out to the remaining 11 TPP nations to revive a deal China hoped would stay dead. Odds are, Biden would lobby Bangkok, Jakarta, Manila, New Delhi, Seoul and others to join the pact,” he said.

Earlier this month, Donald Trump administration, which has been critical of UN health body over its handling of the coronavirus pandemic has formally withdrawn US from the WHO.
Yet, Pesek said, Biden risks repeating Trump’s mistake of losing sight of the bigger picture when it comes to dealing with an “ascendant” China.

“Trump’s efforts to color his opponent as soft on China clearly pushed the Biden campaign’s efforts to out China-bash Trump,” he said, while adding that China “deserves” it too.

Referring to Xi’s “chilling clampdown” in Hong Kong, exploits in South China Sea, appalling treatment of Uighur Muslim minority in Xinjiang and clampdown on media, Pesek said these actions have won Beijing little goodwill.

“A Group of Seven nation like the U.S. should help to ensure the world’s second-biggest economy plays by the rules,” said Pesek.

He also warned that taking on China alone will not build American economic muscle nor will it suddenly restore the manufacturing sector to its 1980s heyday or end the struggle to compete with Asia’s low wages. “It will not magically improve crumbling infrastructure nor reduce inequality or improve the education system,” he said.

“So will building a more equitable and collaborative trade relationship with China. Trump’s approach has been starting economic food fights. A President Biden will have to work with Xi, not just hurl platitudes,” added Pesek. (ANI)

https://www.zee5.com/zeekannada/us-...est-between-which-candidate-hates-china-more/

regardless who the Chinese want as US president, the main adversary will be China. There's no escaping this fate.

 

[sms]

US voters are dumb, they will easily misled all problem is from China. It no coincidence US is declining with American getting lower and lower intelligent. Voting Trump in just prove that. Will not be surprised Trump will stay another 4 years.

Calling a country dumb, when it does not suits your narrative is really dumb!
There is nothing wrong to worry about job, financial security and vote for option available to them.

How come one country's election is centered on another country instead of their own... a really strange phenomenon.

Sir, it's called democracy, some one need to sell something to shine above others. You can contact people in HK they may be able to explain better.

The only strong democrat candidate was Sanders.

He was kicked out by his own party. He has decent base but do not appeal blue collar people.

LOL.. How did Trump ever revive US economy? From his ever day one to present, Trump action is never but destructive to US economy. The same problem of jobless for many low, middle class American. The same declining living standard of most American. We just have to agree and disagree on our own view.

American voters are emotional. They never really understand the real reason for their economy woe. Worst is US media constant bombard with misinfo to feed the mass to escape US real problem.

contrary to your belief, If you put Media frenzy aside, ignore the nonsense peddled by politicians and Trump and look at progress pre Corona timeline. They had lowest unemployment rate in more than a half century, economic growth was hitting 4% and interestingly small scale business (lifeline of every country) were started to grow.

They were on right path till Mar 2020. Corona virus has screwed every one.

 

[KAL-EL]

China will want trump win. Same as Russians.

I disagree, what has Joe Biden ever done to China? Absolutely nothing that I know of. Things will go back to business as usual if Biden gets elected.

In my opinion, Biden will be nothing but a pushover for China, or anyone else for that matter. He will be an empty vessel.

Don’t mistake my words for wanting Trump back in tho, because I’m not a Trump fan either.

 

[GumNaam]

if hate of another nation is the deciding factor in the elections, then I'm afraid that the election is doomed.

 

[beijingwalker]

if hate of another nation is the deciding factor in the elections, then I'm afraid that the election is doomed.

US has so much domestic problems now, virus, riots.. and their politician still focus on hating China, this democracy will cost many average Americans lives.

 

[mmr]

I disagree, what has Joe Biden ever done to China? Absolutely nothing that I know of. Things will go back to business as usual if Biden gets elected.

In my opinion, Biden will be nothing but a pushover for China, or anyone else for that matter. He will be an empty vessel.

Don’t mistake my words for wanting Trump back in tho, because I’m not a Trump fan either.

are you sure? Because Biden will be able work with EU. Without EU help usa cant contain china.

But that is not the only thing. Biden will also going to invest 2 trillion dollar on green energy..go back to paris agreement....he will probably invest in infra...work to unite usa and focus more on health and education. In the long term these will ensure USA remain number one in the world. what trump is doing right now is very short term and he simply dont understand damage he is doing and how most EU leaders and even canada PM want trump to be gone. No one trust him.

If trump win he will probably sign another trade deal with china. trump is very unstable he flip flop all the time. he is talking tough now but once he win he will change his tone.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Two Nazis. One's election campaign against Pakistan, others against China.

 

[Menthol]

Sir, it's called democracy, some one need to sell something to shine above others. You can contact people in HK they may be able to explain better.

That is very dangerous about democracy.

And it should never exist.


Such a thing that makes me lose faith in democracy.

What if in Pakistan election, it's all about who can bring more suffering to India.

Or even who is more willingly to nuke India.


In the article above, if USA name exchanged with Pakistan and China as India.

You know how evil it is.


If the rest of the world hate USA and see it as the world's biggest threat, it's no wonder.

Because their democracy is equally as crazy as Osama bin Laden.