US drones killing innocent Pakistanis from tribal areas’ IMRAN! was HAKEEM ULLHA INNOCENT?

[batmannow]

look at the third class quality of your post,,,,what is your education?
this forum is not for you,,,,you posts have never made any sense and you behave like a drunk man who gets agitated when confronted with truth,,,,


you know you are lying

there was not a single Pakistani or Afghan involved in 9/11,,,jews did it to come to this region and destablise Pakistan,,,initiate an internal conflict,,,divide the people,,,bring down the economy and then start a campaign to de-nuclearize the country to clear the path for larger occupation of middle east......

go read musharaf's book....he has himself admitted that he got scared after stone age threat....

so basically he sided with jews and christians against muslims cause he was a coward and was afraid to confront america and become its most wanted and sacrifice his life for a just cause that was not to become a party in killing of muslims and not to join the terror alliance of american army who gets paid by jews who are killing muslims and looting and grabbing land in middle-east....this is plain and simple no rocket science involved....you can keep lying and keep fooling yourself......it wont change the facts and history.

cause of musharaf's cowardice war and blood shed came to this country.

he started all this,,,,he is responsible for all this....he should be tried and what he did should be undone to ensure that peace returns to our country.

Ok mr, DAM alqaeda?
i dont like terrorists using my religion for thier terrorism!
i am going to more abusive, more harsh, towards all of your kind mentally supportive, khawriji brothers which an , call whatever you like, may it be TTp dogs, may it be jahil TALIBANS, may it be stupid & ugly bad smelling alqeada?
its your dam choice!
now let me , know where was that coward hidding when, the 9/11 happened?
yes i mean your, father OBL ?
in afghanistan?
where was KHALID SHEKH mohamad was? in pakistan?
was doing 9/11 was good, moraly nice, & was done under any koranic verse,s guidence?
no , no, no!
why america or jews , didnt came to afghanistan Before 9/11?
ohh they didnt have the feul to go there, or they were scared ?
what ever we pakistanis are now suffereing is just , because we scumbags like you, who cant see beyond thier, short shight?
MUSHARAF never stated that he was affraid, but just stated about the choices he hve that time, he was not a coward hidding in some ABOTTABAD mansion?
nor he was the one, hidding in some nooristani torabora cave?
instead he, was silent even though he , knew where was dam, idiot OBL was , thats why under his rule no body found OBL?
no SECRET COMMANDOS ever came to top the head of, OBL?
its was done under damocrazy, what was IMRANs reaction on OBL ,s killing or capture just go read it?
under jewish MOSSAD,s support IMRAN is just working to appease terrorists & terorism in pakistan, thats whya terrorists like. HAKEEM ULLHAHA SEEMS TO HIM INNOCENT TRIBAL?
but this world, isnt been moving because of his foolish brains?
MUSHARAF never ever, told OBL to do 9/11, what ever was happened after is just because stupid, thinking of afghani TALIBANS & OBL? who tnought that they can fight , USA like the how they did , with soviet russia?
but on thing they forget, that what ever happened to russia in afghanistan , just because the whole workd wax aftet them, & PA has free hand to insure that, any how soviet russia shouldnt cross afghanistan?
but , when MUSHARAF sent genrl mehmood to advice talibans, they were in thier stupid dreams, which was pushed to them by OBL, a former CIA backed opreative?
when MUSHARAF denied them, thier stupid dream fight , against 44 countries they, all become MUSHARAF,s & pakistan,s enemy, in which PAKARMY was the premire target?
now,sorry we pakistani army & peoples , we dont support you & your dog brother in pakistan & in afghanistan even in tbe whole dam world, so plz go to your, abbu jan, mullha fazall ullha & kerp licking his dirty feets, to reach the allha,s heaven & got the 7 virgins a day?
we can give you help, buy topping your stupid, brains out!
but it would be an epic, if you do that hounrs by urself because we , dont want to make dirty our hands, with your dirty blood!

 

[airmarshal]

Imran or PTI never said Hakeemullah was innocent. His premise is that you only talk to the enemies which implicitly means TTP chief was not innocent. How can he be?

Now if you want to confuse the issue by bringing in stupid arguments to make your point, its on you.

You can honestly say that many killed in drone strikes were innocent. when a drone strike occurs, have you seen the name and the charge sheet against that so called terrorist? How do we know that person was a terrorist, just because America says so!

Talks or no talks, there must be way out of this mess created by Musharraf.

And those who keep parroting its 'our war', may I ask a simple question? Why do you send the bill to Washington to reimburse from CSF? Nations fight their war from their own resources. They dont ask other countries to pay their bills. So stop this bull $hit.

 

[batmannow]

Imran or PTI never said Hakeemullah was innocent. His premise is that you only talk to the enemies which implicitly means TTP chief was not innocent. How can he be?

Now if you want to confuse the issue by bringing in stupid arguments to make your point, its on you.

You can honestly say that many killed in drone strikes were innocent. when a drone strike occurs, have you seen the name and the charge sheet against that so called terrorist? How do we know that person was a terrorist, just because America says so!

Talks or no talks, there must be way out of this mess created by Musharraf.

And those who keep parroting its 'our war', may I ask a simple question? Why do you send the bill to Washington to reimburse from CSF? Nations fight their war from their own resources. They dont ask other countries to pay their bills. So stop this bull $hit.[/quote]
‘US drones killing innocent Pakistanis from tribal areas’ - DAWN.COM
who the hell, he was declaring innocent, in that statment?
there were only, 6 terrorists kill in that attack?
fact remains that only by drone attacks we got all the "dam innocent terrosists heads in hell"?
what kind of that stupid argument is that"You can honestly say that many killed in drone strikes were innocent. when a drone strike occurs, have you seen the name and the charge sheet against that so called terrorist? How do we know that person was a terrorist, just because America says so!
what the hell is happening in pakistan today, dont you have any eyes?
who is making bomb blasts alliens ?
its GOP which gets frist of intell on the grounds, then its passed to others, just because to prevent some other 9/11 happening some where in the world, & pakistan get blammed for the mess generated by some stupid mullha , who cant clean his nose but is tryimg hard to clean this world by doing terrorism but you hve your own stupid way of thinking right?
thats why still you cant see, the difference of numbers peoples killed by drones & peoples killed by terrorism of innocent terrorists of IMRAN?
musharaf did the 9/11 ?
not dam word is written by you in the whole dam post, abot who did the holy job, yes 9/11?
who was that bastard was?
ohh you cant remember him? ohh may be you are affraid that, may be 2mmrow when you wake up, it wouldbe proven that IMRAN khan was the illegal son of OBL?
so you made it ezy! blame musharaf , blame pakarmy?
wow thats called the great foolish logic, of foolish supporter of a foolish political leader, who cant speak one word against TTp, against thier terror, he can go to drink free royal british wine but forgets to meet a 14 years scholl gril from sawaat who was been sent out of his country , from a province under his party,s rule thats how he is COWARD KHAN.?
btw you never thought why NATO countries donating money for counter terrorism & war on terror, but your eyes allways went blind, pakistan is a non NATO ALLAY ON WAR ON TERTOR, USA is the superme commander of NATO, SO WHO WE ASK, FOR THE FUNDS NEEDED TO FIGHT TERROR?
tell your beloved foolish leader to set an example & sale BANI GALA donate its money to the anti terrorist fund then you follow the same, i hope even if every PTI member/ supporter start doing that before questioning this & that, our country never would need any one to support us, financialy to fight the terror?
btw you never thought why KPK govt is getting biggest of chunk from USAID?ohh no its holy, because PTI is getting it, or IMRAN is getting is thats your dam logical argument is all about!

 

[jyynnxx]

person just raised the point why we joined the US War and that Musharaf said that it was because he was scared of the threat "back to stone age"
reality and truth is far from it
In recent news as you all may have seen that Washington proved paper prove that Pakistani government know about Osama bin Laden attack as well as all the drone attacks that have been or will be conducted
Lets start with blame on imran Khan well he is not to be blamed he has state government not national government he can't make foreign decisions so do not blame him yet
As for the drone attacks killing the innocent people than even investigation done by UN on this matter has stated that US has down played the amount of innocent deaths by drone attacks
Where does that leave Pakistani politics ?
Well they get money from US each and every year a huge amount is cut up for pakistan now does pakistani people see a cent of it no they do not it all goes into politicians pockets
Basically pakistani politicians doesn't matter who it is is sold out to US ?
Questions to answer here are:
1) Where were Pakistani Talibans 10 years ago why weren't they causing trouble back than and what has changed that made them pissed off ?
2) We all know innocent people are dying than why appeal after appeal is being made by Pakistani government to stop drone attacks yet no threat of shooting down the drones (which PAF is capable of) or blocking the NATO supply route?
3) how many innocent pakistanis are going to die till Pakistani nation will realize that "YES it is their fight, it is their issue" and starts with hanging 99% politicians for their hand in cruel crimes against Pakistan and pakistani nation

 

[Jazzbot]

person just raised the point why we joined the US War and that Musharaf said that it was because he was scared of the threat "back to stone age"
reality and truth is far from it
In recent news as you all may have seen that Washington proved paper prove that Pakistani government know about Osama bin Laden attack as well as all the drone attacks that have been or will be conducted
Lets start with blame on imran Khan well he is not to be blamed he has state government not national government he can't make foreign decisions so do not blame him yet
As for the drone attacks killing the innocent people than even investigation done by UN on this matter has stated that US has down played the amount of innocent deaths by drone attacks
Where does that leave Pakistani politics ?
Well they get money from US each and every year a huge amount is cut up for pakistan now does pakistani people see a cent of it no they do not it all goes into politicians pockets
Basically pakistani politicians doesn't matter who it is is sold out to US ?
Questions to answer here are:
1) Where were Pakistani Talibans 10 years ago why weren't they causing trouble back than and what has changed that made them pissed off ?
2) We all know innocent people are dying than why appeal after appeal is being made by Pakistani government to stop drone attacks yet no threat of shooting down the drones (which PAF is capable of) or blocking the NATO supply route?
3) how many innocent pakistanis are going to die till Pakistani nation will realize that "YES it is their fight, it is their issue" and starts with hanging 99% politicians for their hand in cruel crimes against Pakistan and pakistani nation

Welcome to and prepare to get bashed from all sides, defending IK and talking against Mushi are two heinous crimes here which you've just committed in single post.

 

[Aamna14]

First lets have at least one conspiracy theory and not a dozen. Some say Imran khan is pro taliban, some say he is a neo liberal and others think he is a jewish agent?? And the funny part is that the same people would switch their opinions as long as they only get to bash Imran Khan, so much for their concern for the country.

 

[Jazzbot]

First lets have at least one conspiracy theory and not a dozen. Some say Imran khan is pro taliban, some say he is a neo liberal and others think he is a jewish agent?? And the funny part is that the same people would switch their opinions as long as they only get to bash Imran Khan, so much for their concern for the country.

They all hate IK so much that they can't even decide what he really is, a liberal, pro taliban, establishment's man or jews agent. Irony is, all four of these names associated with IK are ideologically complete opposite to each other. I pity on these poor souls..

 

[Aamna14]

They all hate IK so much that they can't even decide what he really is, a liberal, pro taliban, establishment's man or jews agent. Irony is, all four of these names associated with IK are ideologically complete opposite to each other. I pity on these poor souls..

Yeah exactly.

 

[jyynnxx]

Welcome to and prepare to get bashed from all sides, defending IK and talking against Mushi are two heinous crimes here which you've just committed in single post.

if Pakistani public is afraid of change than just keep on eletecting the officials which have been rotating through sewer of politics like used condoms than hey that is their issue
Stating ones opinion is never a crime

 

[batmannow]

if Pakistani public is afraid of change than just keep on eletecting the officials which have been rotating through sewer of politics like used condoms than hey that is their issue
Stating ones opinion is never a crime

if change means , getting the power apeasing terrorism & terrorists sorry we dont need that, dam change at all?
we never wanted to see, pakistan bieng called TALBANISTAN ?
just because, some IMMI , TIMMY, JIMMY wants to be PM?

 

[batmannow]

‘TTP planned kidnap of Shias, Ahmadis for ransom’
MOHAMMAD SALEEM

According to the sources, the militants told their investigators that they would raise funds for terrorist activities by looting houses of Shia community members and stealing PTCL cables. — File Photo
Published 2013-11-13 06:57:58
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FAISALABAD: The banned Pakistan Tehreek-i-Taliban’s local militants had allegedly been assigned the task of kidnapping members of Shia and Ahmadi communities for ransom for fundraising.

The plan, according to sources, was revealed by five militants during their interrogation by intelligence agencies.

The five alleged TTP terrorists -- Usman Ghani alias Talha of Jameel Town, Ghulam Mohammadabad, Ali Azam alias Farooq of Razabad, Mubashar Nadeem alias Bao of Chak Jhumra, Usman of Lahore and Shahzad Ali of Gurunanakpura – had been produced before the media by the police at a press conference on Nov 5.

The sources said the plan to kidnap members of two communities was approved after an ‘edict’ in favour of such kidnappings for ransom issued by an unidentified cleric.

According to the sources, the militants told their investigators that they would raise funds for terrorist activities by looting houses of Shia community members and stealing PTCL cables.

They also confessed that they would send a part of their ill-gotten money to their group leader, Qari Imran, in Miramshah. The alleged terrorists said a car laden with explosives and weapons that was seized by Faisalabad police on May 24 and was later remained in illegal use of an SHO, Rana Asif, was to be sent to an address in F-8 Markaz, Islamabad, for kidnapping some Chinese nationals.

They said the task of kidnapping the foreigners was assigned to two militants Umar and Muhammad.

The terrorists told the investigators they were also asked to send some specimens of Frontier Constabulary (FC) uniform to Miramshah which were to be used in a terrorist activity in Bannu.

According to the sources, one of the arrested terrorists, Usman, was born in 1987. He had taken part in fight against Nato forces in Logar, Afghanistan. He remained with Qari Imran in Miramshah for nine months and got militant training before leaving for Afghanistan.

Similarly, Ali Azam was born in 1990 and had been trained to use different weapons, including Kalashnikov. He escaped from police custody in Faisalabad after seizure of the explosive-laden car. He later lived for two weeks in Miramshah and then in Shawal near Afghanistan boarder.

The alleged terrorists had also planned kidnap of an officer of a secret agency residing in Razaabad, Faisalabad, near the house of Salman alias Asad. They wanted to use the kidnapped officer in a bargain for release of Usman Ghani alias Hamza and Abdul Ghani alias Kaka, both detained in connection with a suicide-car bombing at a local CNG station. After their release, Qari Imran was to give them a list of government officers for kidnapping, Usman was quoted as saying.

The TTP men had also planned kidnap of a Chinese national from a hospital in Faisalabad and an MNA who was the son of a veteran politician.

They revealed that Qari Imran had given them task of action against the military and police personnel and Shia and Ahmadi and they had been collecting the contact numbers of their potential targets.

Ali Azam said he had also been given instructions by Qari Imran for monitoring of an office at Saleemi Chowk.

The sources said their six accomplices, including Abu Bakar alias Shamil of Multan, Salman alias Asad of Razaabad, Usman Sabir, Kashif alias Nikkar of Pensra, Salman of Razaabad and Mohammad Shahid of Raiwind, Lahore, were yet to be arrested.

City Police Officer Dr Haider Ashraf said efforts were on to nab the accomplices of the arrested militants. He said police were finding it hard to arrest these outlaws as they were not using any cell phones.


why not to kill these bastered innocent tribal terrorists of IMRAN by drones ?

 

[jyynnxx]

why not to kill these bastered innocent tribal terrorists of IMRAN by drones ?

you know what they say "ignorance is a bliss" enjoy it ..your profile pic of General Musharaff tell me about where your IQ level is ....

Here is what i dont understand but before that lets take an account for few things
1) Pakistan has standing army and air force
2) Pakistan has Police and ISI and I am sure other secret agencies for national security
3) Pakistan has firm ground on which it stands towards the terrorists
4) Pakistan has politicians like rest of the world which are elected by public (so we believe) lol

It does not matter if these talibans or what i like to call them shir-pasands are from tribal areas or they are in karachi or any other city of pakistan which is plagued by their crimes. You have a system, you have rules, you have enforcers (army airforce) and police, and your public is suffering
now if pakistani politicans (doesnt matter who) is true pakistani and gives a single damn about pakistani public than this has to be issued on all national TVs, newspapers, and radios as ultimatum to these
give blackwater and CIA agents living openly in Islamabad and other major cities 24 hours notice to leave the country or shot on site (you are a nation with your rights fucking practice those rights)
Tell US to stop the drone attacks and you will handle the shit on your own because you are cable of it otherwise drones will be shot down
Tell talibans and other shira pasands that there will be no arrests made, there will be no mercy and it is going to come down on your like Saladin did on Christines during crusades
Have your ISI, police be more accountable for the events happening in their areas
No matter who these guys are backed by (politicians, businessmen, religious fanatics) just go all out hit them as hard as you can with whatever you got believe me there will be peace
pakistani public is a very cruel cruel nation..i mean watching the events on pakistan channel news or their crime shows tell you that damn there is something really wrong with pakistan public so in order to control this public you need to take off the kiddy gloves and handle them with MAN-HANDS screw it if anyone will say something about it but the questions is who has the MAN-HANDS (sharif, Imran, musharaf, or mr 20% who become mr 100% or his son or sons of these bastards)
Also unite the nation and make them focus on national goals rather then having politicans picking sides and choosing favorites

Now look at what is folding in middle east
you have syria with civil war , egypt with crises, Iran has its own crap going on and pakistan well believe it or not but is in middle of a civil war between millions of parties
i know some of you will say well its very hard to do with a country and democratic rule but my brothers have they left any other choice have your own government left you any choice, your own public your own brothers who are going out there planting bombs to kill innocents for few bucks?

Tell you a personal story:
i have a friend who has been deployed to Afghanistan 3 times as a marine and another one of our civilian friend got in an argument with him that US is loosing the war in Afghanistan. So my marine buddy said "look we are not fighting a conventional all out war we are trying to handle these people with kiddie gloves while accusing them of crimes and occupying them so ofcourse we are not winning the war but don't think we can't win the war. give us 24 hours window when Army, Air Force, marine corp and special forces can do whatever they want and we will start with carpet bombing them inch by inch like we did in WW2 after those 24 hours are over tell me who won the war.

Pakistan's war is same only problem is we have been betrayed by our politicians, our own security groups(army, airforce etc), and most of all by our own brothers for just few lousy greens.

As i always say we are a generation that can bring the change since we have the knowledge and tools at hand. Stop following these ran down overly sold out politicians which are attending court of many charges after each time their term is over.. Bring the revolution of nationalism and Islam(moderate) to the nation and innovate every way possible and become a fist when anyone dares to look at you with bad intentions

and with this i am leaving these forums
1) people don't understand what someone with common sense is trying to say
2) people are ignorant to their old ways and with seeing the truth are unable to accept it
3) I have realized that by sitting here with forums and reply after reply is really not going to get me or any of us anywhere

point less​

 

[batmannow]

you know what they say "ignorance is a bliss" enjoy it ..your profile pic of General Musharaff tell me about where your IQ level is ....

Here is what i dont understand but before that lets take an account for few things
1) Pakistan has standing army and air force
2) Pakistan has Police and ISI and I am sure other secret agencies for national security
3) Pakistan has firm ground on which it stands towards the terrorists
4) Pakistan has politicians like rest of the world which are elected by public (so we believe) lol

It does not matter if these talibans or what i like to call them shir-pasands are from tribal areas or they are in karachi or any other city of pakistan which is plagued by their crimes. You have a system, you have rules, you have enforcers (army airforce) and police, and your public is suffering
now if pakistani politicans (doesnt matter who) is true pakistani and gives a single damn about pakistani public than this has to be issued on all national TVs, newspapers, and radios as ultimatum to these
give blackwater and CIA agents living openly in Islamabad and other major cities 24 hours notice to leave the country or shot on site (you are a nation with your rights fucking practice those rights)
Tell US to stop the drone attacks and you will handle the shit on your own because you are cable of it otherwise drones will be shot down
Tell talibans and other shira pasands that there will be no arrests made, there will be no mercy and it is going to come down on your like Saladin did on Christines during crusades
Have your ISI, police be more accountable for the events happening in their areas
No matter who these guys are backed by (politicians, businessmen, religious fanatics) just go all out hit them as hard as you can with whatever you got believe me there will be peace
pakistani public is a very cruel cruel nation..i mean watching the events on pakistan channel news or their crime shows tell you that damn there is something really wrong with pakistan public so in order to control this public you need to take off the kiddy gloves and handle them with MAN-HANDS screw it if anyone will say something about it but the questions is who has the MAN-HANDS (sharif, Imran, musharaf, or mr 20% who become mr 100% or his son or sons of these bastards)
Also unite the nation and make them focus on national goals rather then having politicans picking sides and choosing favorites

Now look at what is folding in middle east
you have syria with civil war , egypt with crises, Iran has its own crap going on and pakistan well believe it or not but is in middle of a civil war between millions of parties
i know some of you will say well its very hard to do with a country and democratic rule but my brothers have they left any other choice have your own government left you any choice, your own public your own brothers who are going out there planting bombs to kill innocents for few bucks?

Tell you a personal story:
i have a friend who has been deployed to Afghanistan 3 times as a marine and another one of our civilian friend got in an argument with him that US is loosing the war in Afghanistan. So my marine buddy said "look we are not fighting a conventional all out war we are trying to handle these people with kiddie gloves while accusing them of crimes and occupying them so ofcourse we are not winning the war but don't think we can't win the war. give us 24 hours window when Army, Air Force, marine corp and special forces can do whatever they want and we will start with carpet bombing them inch by inch like we did in WW2 after those 24 hours are over tell me who won the war.

Pakistan's war is same only problem is we have been betrayed by our politicians, our own security groups(army, airforce etc), and most of all by our own brothers for just few lousy greens.

As i always say we are a generation that can bring the change since we have the knowledge and tools at hand. Stop following these ran down overly sold out politicians which are attending court of many charges after each time their term is over.. Bring the revolution of nationalism and Islam(moderate) to the nation and innovate every way possible and become a fist when anyone dares to look at you with bad intentions

and with this i am leaving these forums
1) people don't understand what someone with common sense is trying to say
2) people are ignorant to their old ways and with seeing the truth are unable to accept it
3) I have realized that by sitting here with forums and reply after reply is really not going to get me or any of us anywhere

point less​

thankyou mr genoiuos, for leaving this fourm specially, you can enjoy your chances on the other planets, still vacant?lolzzz

 

[boomslang]

'US drones killing innocent Pakistanis from tribal areas’...



Let me guess, they're ALL women and children, right ?

 

[Pakistani E]

50k Pakistanis have been killed by these "innocent patriotic Pakistanis from the tribal areas". Imran khan's logic is killing my brain cells.