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US Drone Strikes In Pakistan

CIA Strike Brings Bin Laden Closer- Australian

Some interesting stuff here to muddy the waters. Pakistani intell leads to another key hit.

Maybe heap big chiefs speak with forked tongue in Islamabad? Whatever works for you guys. Just keep passin' on that great targeting data.

Thanks.:agree:

Oh! Those McDonald's fries can be REALLY distracting. Especially when they're hot and fresh. Yummy. Glad I'm not escorting any prisoners tonight. Might let one escape just to get some lunch.

Yup.:lol:

you're on slippery ice my friend!
cheers
 
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His in-laws likely have the means. Hope that those guards held out for the "super-sized" big mac meal. 42 oz. coke. Large fries. Good deal even now.
 
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"...you're on slippery ice my friend!"

How so? Is this not something we discussed relative to targeting intel?

It's an interesting story that becomes more so as events proceed.
 
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"...you're on slippery ice my friend!"

How so? Is this not something we discussed relative to targeting intel?

It's an interesting story that becomes more so as events proceed.

just joshing ya!
i am work, will certainly join-in later.
 
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24 Nov 2008

Pilotless "drone" aircraft deliver a silent, deadly payload that has proved effective in killing militants, but has also killed civilians when intelligence goes awry or in "collateral damage" from a successful strike.

In Pakistan, strikes were infrequent - every few months - until August, when there was a sudden and dramatic increase in the drone attacks. Since then there have been at least 20 strikes - more than one a week - possibly in a stepped-up attempt to kill Osama bin Laden before George Bush leaves office on January 20 next year.

The intensity of the bombardment now has made the drone attacks a highly emotive political issue in Pakistan, feeding anti-Americanism. Pakistan's government and army protest loudly after each strike. And yet it is thought that Islamabad is secretly cooperating with the attacks, providing much of the human intelligence that allows the drones to target safe houses in the tribal area where al-Qaida militants are suspected of hiding out. The country even goes as far as hosting CIA agents in Pakistani army compounds in the tribal area, who call in the strikes.

Drones are operated by pilots who sit thousands of miles away, manning their controls from Creech Air Force Base in Nevada, in the US. The drones send back video images of the area they are flying over, which, together with human intelligence from agents on the ground, allow the pilots to pick out their targets. The Predator drones used by the US are each armed with two Hellfire missiles but are used mostly to spy on activity on the ground.

The drones that hover over the tribal belt are usually operated not by the US military but by the CIA, giving American generals plausible deniability that they are behind the strikes. Such is the perceived success of the clandestine drone programme that there is now a rush to train hundreds more US Air Force pilots to fly the remote-control planes.

Drones were originally deployed in Afghanistan before 9/11, as part of a then secret operation to get Osama bin Laden, and it seems they twice had him in their sights. But it is in Pakistan that the drones have become most notorious, as a seemingly constant presence flying high over the country's wild tribal belt, known as a haven of al-Qaida and Taliban militants. Terrified tribesmen regularly try to shoot them down but the planes fly too high.

The current campaign can be dated back to 2006, when on two separate occasions the drones targeted a village in the Bajaur part of the tribal area, on intelligence that al-Qaida number two Ayman al-Zawahiri was present. But it is thought that they managed to kill dozens of civilians instead, fuelling the tribal uprising against both the Pakistani army and international forces in neighbouring Afghanistan.

The drones have hit major al-Qaida operatives in the tribal area, especially this year, which has seen them kill Abu Laith al-Libi, a charismatic senior military commander, and Abu Khabab al-Masri, the terror group's chemical and biological weapons expert.
 
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24 Nov 2008

Islamabad, Nov 24: Pakistan's top leadership said the country would adopt a strategy to counter missile strikes by US drones in the restive tribal belt and to protect the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani called on President Asif Ali Zardari at the presidential palace this afternoon to discuss the security situation in Pakistan and "frequent drones attacks on the border areas", an official statement said.

"They agreed that the government would adopt a strategy on frequent drone attacks on the border areas in the light of recommendations of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security" which would be briefed by the defence and foreign ministers and the chiefs of the interior ministry and the Inter-Services Intelligence agency shortly, the statement said.

Zardari and Gilani "agreed that no compromise on national sovereignty and integrity would be made at any cost". Referring to a report in the Washington Post, they dispelled the notion that Pakistan had signed any kind of deal with the US on drone attacks, the statement said.

The two leaders also discussed steps being taken by the government for reviving the economy. Gilani briefed the President on ongoing parliamentary proceedings.

Earlier in the day, Gilani said Pakistan has no agreement with the US that allows the latter to carry out incursions and aerial attacks within Pakistani territory. "As far as my government is concerned, certainly we have no agreement with the US to continue air attacks inside Pakistani area," he said.
 
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I'd love to read the exact statement. I'm certain that there are NO signed agreements.

Who wants a leaked document this explosive hitting the press? Plausible deniability is something I've used since my first girlfriend. Key is "plausible". Without it, the rest crumbles like a house of cards. Don't ask. Don't tell.

"The country even goes as far as hosting CIA agents in Pakistani army compounds in the tribal area, who call in the strikes."

No agreement. Sure. I'd sue the GUARDIAN on a comment this definitive if so. One would think from this report that ISI, Pakistani Army intelligence, and CIA might feel otherwise.

Maybe this is one of those "rogue" operations?:agree:
 
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I'd love to read the exact statement. I'm certain that there are NO signed agreements.

Who wants a leaked document this explosive hitting the press? Plausible deniability is something I've used since my first girlfriend. Key is "plausible". Without it, the rest crumbles like a house of cards. Don't ask. Don't tell.

"The country even goes as far as hosting CIA agents in Pakistani army compounds in the tribal area, who call in the strikes."

No agreement. Sure. I'd sue the GUARDIAN on a comment this definitive if so. One would think from this report that ISI, Pakistani Army intelligence, and CIA might feel otherwise.

Maybe this is one of those "rogue" operations?:agree:

the Guardian reporters are reportedly imbedded with army troops. so looks like the "cat is out of the bag" or something like that!
 
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Pak army practises shooting drone
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Pakistan's army on Friday carried out a training exercise in which pilotless aircraft drones were shot down by anti-craft guns and short range surface-to-air missiles, a military statement said.

The exercise was carried out as public pressure on the government in Islamabad is increasing to use force to halt air raids by US drones that target suspected militant hideouts in Pakistan's tribal region.

"The elements of army air defence demonstrated their shooting skills by targeting the drones flying at different altitudes," said the statement.

The indigenously built man-portable surface-to-air missile Anza II, the anti-aircraft Oerlikan and an unnamed 57 mm radar-controlled gun were used in the exercises that were conducted in a semi-desert area near Muzaffargarh in central Pakistan.

US spy planes have carried out around two dozen airstrikes in Pakistan's tribal districts, which are believed to have safe havens of Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters launching cross-border attacks on international forces in Afghanistan. Pakistan says the actions violate its sovereignty and undermine its efforts against terrorism.

nice pic of German soldiers! i didnt know they were involved in the firing drill!
 
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"...the Guardian reporters are reportedly imbedded with army troops. so looks like the "cat is out of the bag" or something like that!"

Indeed! And the Pakistani newspapers are...where? Let me guess-covering an air defense artillery live fire exercise. Oh boy!:woot:

I guess different interests for different readng audiences.

I know this, fatman17- I'm grateful for the assistance. It's real- no hot air or empty expressions of solidarity- and it's working.
 
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November 25, 2008

KARACHI: Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshall, Tanvir Mahmood has said that Pakistan Air Force is fully capable to stop drones’ flights and missile strikes.

He said that it was now up to the government to decide whether it wanted to benefit from our capabilities or ready to fight a war with the aggressors.


Air Chief Marshall made these remarks, while speaking to newsmen during IDEAS 2008 defence equipments exhibition at the Expo Center in Karachi.

He said most of the fighter aircrafts of Pakistan Air Force would reach to their life in next few years after which JF-17 thunder fighters would be added to fill the gap.

The fighter jets of Pakistan Air Force are fully capable to carry all warheads, he commented.
 
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He said that it was now up to the government to decide whether it wanted to benefit from our capabilities or ready to fight a war with the aggressors.

political will or hot air!
 
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