US doesn't care about Vietnam: Top 7 reasons

[Martian2]

Britain was fighting against Germany alone besides the Soviet Union. What was the U.S. doing? Lend Lease Act, destroyers in return for lease on bases, firing on Uboats which Hitler complained about when U.S. was still not at war, etc.

Read the thread title PLEASE!

You're living in World War II.

Show me a Lend Lease agreement between the US and Vietnam. If you can't, stop bringing up irrelevant history.

You can't just keep speculating about every event in history. You have to show real facts.

In the real world, Vietnam got 5 patrol boats from the United States. That's the extent of annual US help. Hardly Lend Lease!

 

[Oldman1]

Read the thread title PLEASE!

You're living in World War II.

Show me a Lend Lease agreement between the US and Vietnam. If you can't, stop bringing up irrelevant history.

Funny that you also like to use history as a lesson. I like to do that too. When did the Lend Lease Act was introduced? Was it before Britain and Germany went to war? Or during the war between the nations?

 

[Martian2]

Oh my god. I'm being trolled to death today. I'm leaving.

 

[Rechoice]

Oh my god. I'm being trolled to death today. I'm leaving.

OK. good luck.

We no need such fake lecture from Chinese. we do know how to do to counter our enemy.

 

[Viet]

It's every US administration.

Forty years of US neutrality on the South China Sea issue

For those that are keeping track, the latest US pronouncement of neutrality on the South China Sea occurred on December 7, 2014. From 1974 (see chart below) to 2014, that's 40 years of US neutrality. Happy 40th anniversary everybody!

Beijing's and Washington's Dueling South China Sea Papers | Center for Strategic and International Studies

"Dec 9, 2014 - Two days earlier the U.S. State Department released a long-awaited ... islands in the South China Sea, reiterating the U.S. position of neutrality."
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China and America: A Superpower Showdown in Asia | The National Interest

can´t you read between the lines?

the US says they stay out of the dispute among the claimants in the south china sea. BUT they will NEVER accept China to use force to change the status quo. Interprete it as a warning to China. Uncle Sam is not amused that you challenge their supremacy in Asia.

Text - S.Res.412 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): A resolution reaffirming the strong support of the United States Government for freedom of navigation and other internationally lawful uses of sea and airspace in the Asia-Pacific region, and for the peaceful diplomatic resolution of outstanding territorial and maritime claims and disputes. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

here an extract of the senat resolution:

Whereas, on May 1, 2014, the People's Republic of China's state-owned energy
company, CNOOC, placed its deepwater semi-submersible drilling rig Hai
Yang Shi You 981 (HD-981), accompanied by over 25 Chinese ships, in
Block 143, 120 nautical miles off Vietnam's coastline;

Whereas from May 1 to May 9, 2014, the number of Chinese vessels escorting Hai
Yang Shi You 981 (HD-981) increased to more than 80, including seven
military ships, which aggressively patrolled and intimidated Vietnamese
Coast Guard ships in violation of COLREGS, reportedly intentionally
rammed multiple Vietnamese vessels, and used helicopters and water
cannons to obstruct others;

Whereas, on May 5, 2014, vessels from the Maritime Safety Administration of
China (MSAC) established an exclusion zone with a radius of three
nautical miles around Hai Yang Shi You 981 (HD-981), which undermines
maritime safety in the area and is in violation of universally
recognized principles of international law;


similar to the east china sea:
US Senate Issues Bipartisan Resolution Condemning Chinese ADIZ | The Diplomat

 

[Soryu]

Man always don't care about a girl goes after him, especially when the girl is very normal, not outstanding feature.

Vietnam's end will be very miserable, big ambitiom, but lack of ability, seems strong, but too fragile, he choose a wrong enemy he shouldn't, he are not smart, his destiny all depend on his big neighbour's patience.

These stupid kids think they smarter than Vietnamese or Chinese leaders ... ?

 

[Viet]

Vietnam is a crybaby, no one wants to be friend with a crybaby.

well, at least we have a formidable army, while you none.

 

[Soryu]

Vietnam is a crybaby, no one wants to be friend with a crybaby.

And who 're you ?

 

[Viet]

You can trust China that it will never interfere in your internal affairs, attempt a color revolution, pit one group against the other by arming one at the cost of other, seek fifth-columns and paid NGOs to bring down your government. Yes, on all these, you can trust China.

It is true that we have a territorial dispute. You are welcome to negotiate it on bilateral basis. Resources can be shared and disputes can be shelved. If Japan can negotiate and shelve the dispute, so can Vietnam, which shares a closer ideological affinity with China.

Our language in bilateral relations should be one of peace and mutual development. Personally, I think of Vietnam as a fiercely independent nation. That's beyond respect. So is China. Without letting any third party to intervene and to use each one of us as a playground for their own selfish ends, we can negotiate.

Do you honestly believe that others will think of Vietnam's interests more than China would?

International relations rule number one: Every free minded nation is alone in the jungle.

Number two: The lackeys are expendable. US will not hesitate to use South Korea (even at the cost of the North nuking them) if their greater interests require so.

Number three: You cannot change your geographic destiny. We have to sit next to each other even if we do not want.

I like your response. You are one of the most reasonable members here on the forum. If China has more people as you, the world would become a peaceful place.

Can't chant USA USA USA forever

We have all waited five years for a Vietnam-US deal to happen.

To date, the US gave Vietnam five patrol boats.

I say that pretty much shows the US-Vietnam alliance is a dead turkey.

If the Vietnamese members would stop trying to bring it up or hint at serious US military support, we can move to the issue of what's next for Vietnam.

In all of the threads, the Vietnamese members post the same thing as the Indians.

I ask, "what's next for Vietnam?" Vietnamese: USA USA USA

I say, "it's been five years, the USA isn't coming. What's next?" Vietnamese: USA USA USA

I say, "the US never showed up in Georgia, Crimea, or Eastern Ukraine. What's next for Vietnam?" Vietnamese: USA USA USA

It's like being in an insane asylum. The Vietnamese chant the same thing over and over again and there's no real discussion.

yes USA USA USA

martian, you are a taiwanese living in america, the empire of evil. I wonder why you bother about china and vietnam? you know vietnam and taiwan have a wonderful peaceful relationship.

 

[areal]

Vietnam formidable army only existed in one place, myth.

well, at least we have a formidable army, while you none.

Vietnam is a toy or tool used by US to harass China. Being a tool is not a shame, and China will not blame it.
However, willing to be a tool will make the problem different.
US has the exact power to stop China in SCS? so far, only see US-mouth plus Viet-tool to work on SCS issue.
what a pity! Vietnamese people have at least a half of Chinese gene or blood, they should not be so stupid.

can´t you read between the lines?

the US says they stay out of the dispute among the claimants in the south china sea. BUT they will NEVER accept China to use force to change the status quo. Interprete it as a warning to China. Uncle Sam is not amused that you challenge their supremacy in Asia.

Text - S.Res.412 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): A resolution reaffirming the strong support of the United States Government for freedom of navigation and other internationally lawful uses of sea and airspace in the Asia-Pacific region, and for the peaceful diplomatic resolution of outstanding territorial and maritime claims and disputes. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

here an extract of the senat resolution:

Whereas, on May 1, 2014, the People's Republic of China's state-owned energy
company, CNOOC, placed its deepwater semi-submersible drilling rig Hai
Yang Shi You 981 (HD-981), accompanied by over 25 Chinese ships, in
Block 143, 120 nautical miles off Vietnam's coastline;

Whereas from May 1 to May 9, 2014, the number of Chinese vessels escorting Hai
Yang Shi You 981 (HD-981) increased to more than 80, including seven
military ships, which aggressively patrolled and intimidated Vietnamese
Coast Guard ships in violation of COLREGS, reportedly intentionally
rammed multiple Vietnamese vessels, and used helicopters and water
cannons to obstruct others;

Whereas, on May 5, 2014, vessels from the Maritime Safety Administration of
China (MSAC) established an exclusion zone with a radius of three
nautical miles around Hai Yang Shi You 981 (HD-981), which undermines
maritime safety in the area and is in violation of universally
recognized principles of international law;


similar to the east china sea:
US Senate Issues Bipartisan Resolution Condemning Chinese ADIZ | The Diplomat

 

[Nike]

Actually it's China who care Vietnam at most, at least the Chinese poster here

 

[Rechoice]

Freedom and Independence is our way.

 

[Viet]

Vietnam formidable army only existed in one place, myth..

not myth, but reality, my friend. unlike you loser, our army has a glorious history. with victories over enemy armies that were bigger and larger and mightier than ours. we still remember of the trung sister revolt 2,000 years against the han rule. the sisters spanked you badly.

Vietnam is a toy or tool used by US to harass China. Being a tool is not a shame, and China will not blame it.
However, willing to be a tool will make the problem different.
US has the exact power to stop China in SCS? so far, only see US-mouth plus Viet-tool to work on SCS issue.
what a pity! Vietnamese people have at least a half of Chinese gene or blood, they should not be so stupid.

the problem is your bullying mentality. I suggest you seek some medical and mental help.

 

[areal]

Wow, no more China-invade-Vietnam-16-times sadness story any more, and turn to the glorious and formidable version.
I never know that Vietnam has revised their history textbook so dramatically. How can those poor Viet kids accept these stories after they grow up, or sinking in delusion, like you.

not myth, but reality, my friend. unlike you loser, our army has a glorious history. with victories over enemy armies that were bigger and larger and mightier than ours. we still remember of the trung sister revolt 2,000 years against the han rule. the sisters spanked you badly.



the problem is your bullying mentality. I suggest you seek some medical and mental help.

 

[Sanchez]

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For the viet kids it's a pity that you don't know how your country begged for China's help...