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By: PTI | Washington | Published:October 7, 2016 7:34 am
India has been strongly pushing for reform of the UN Security Council and getting its permanent membership.

The US is disappointed with the way Russia and to some extent China have been exercising their veto power in the UN Security Council to blunt global efforts for peace in Syria, the White House has said as it underscored the need to reform the powerful wing of the world body.

“We have been deeply concerned by the way Russia has used its veto power on the UN Security Council to prevent as much action from the UN as we would like to see,” White House Press Secretary Josh earnest said.

“I know there has been a broader and, in some ways, more esoteric discussion about proposed reforms of the UN Security Council and the way that it works. I know there have been some proposals to enlarge it. Our friends in India are certainly interested in benefitting from reforms like that,” Earnest told reporters at his daily news conference yesterday.

India has been strongly pushing for reform of the UN Security Council and getting its permanent membership.

He said as it relates to the situation in Syria, the US’ most urgent concern is with the way Russia has used their veto authority on the Security Council at the UN.

“The United States has been disappointed at the way in which Russia and to a certain extent China have wielded their veto authority on the UN Security Council to blunt international efforts to limit the violence inside of Syria,” the White House spokesman said.

“We have been disappointed that they have used that veto to protect (Syrian President Bashar al) Assad. There have also been movements at the United Nations Security Council to raise concerns about the conduct of individuals in that conflict and to ensure that they are met with some accountability. Those accountability measures have been blocked by the Russians,” Earnest said.

There are other examples of the US being able to work effectively outside the auspices of the UN to implement sanctions in a coordinated fashion to maximise the impact of those sanctions, he said.

The situation in Ukraine is the best example where the US has been able to work effectively with its European allies to impose tough sanctions against Russia, Earnest said.


 
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The veto is mostly used by the veto powers to shelter crooks. Just as Russia is protecting the assad regime the US has the record of protecting israel. This veto power is what has made the UN an affront to humanity.
 
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The veto is mostly used by the veto powers to shelter crooks. Just as Russia is protecting the assad regime the US has the record of protecting israel. This veto power is what has made the UN an affront to humanity.

That's strong words! What do you think how India would have used their veto power?
 
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This would hold more water if the US didn't religiously kill/block/veto every potential resolution against Israel.

Sadly, all the major powers have misused the UNSC...so, it''s hypocritical for any of them to criticize each other.
 
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This would hold more water if the US didn't religiously kill/block/veto every potential resolution against Israel.

Sadly, all the major powers have misused the UNSC...so, it''s hypocritical for any of them to criticize each other.

There is no a single angel to all! The 5 bad guys all have their own core interests to protect. Hopefully they could make a just decision on other issues in the world,
 
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UNSC already is a place where undemocratic vultures meet, why whining? That is expected.
 
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There is no a single angel to all! The 5 bad guys all have their own core interests to protect. Hopefully they could make a just decision on other issues in the world,

It is better if the UNSC is non-functionally functional. China and Russia abstaining on UN Resolution on Libya did not end up well, right?

On the other hand, China-Russia common position and veto on several US and France backed Resolutions ensured that the sectarian fire burning in Syria would not spread any further.

I am positive about China getting more aggressive at the UNSC. People like it or not, their countries are most likely a part of this system and are subject to its rules and regulations. They like it or not, UN can wage a just war upon them if the 5 top nations agreed on it.

Nobody can change this sans another major war.

Yet, unlike the second world war, power disparity is such that, no small country can easily provoke a major war -- the best case scenario, as it is happening in Syria now, would be a protracted proxy war while the top five (well, at least the top 3-2 combination) cannot directly engage each other.

The grass is smashed and trashed. The elephants get their share.

The veto is mostly used by the veto powers to shelter crooks. Just as Russia is protecting the assad regime the US has the record of protecting israel. This veto power is what has made the UN an affront to humanity.

China, as well, stands, on the side of the legitimate Syrian government and your (or your regime's, if any) ideological spasms mean nothing to us. So, do not single out Russia, please. We vetoed US-backed anti-China Resolutions along with Russia each time. We have carried out a naval drill with our most strategic partner in the Mediterranean.

And currently our naval platforms are sailing near Syrian waters and having strong communication with Russia.

Why?

Because we believe that what is the real affront to humanity are the very countries/regimes who stand by the likes of US and France (and regional allies like Israel, Turkey, Qatar) in their ideological and historical hatred toward the last progressive front in the Middle East, which is Syria.

Currently, people of your kind would die for the US to have the sole veto power. Then, your Syrian radical Jihad dream would have finally come true.
 
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China, as well, stands, on the side of the legitimate Syrian government and your (or your regime's, if any) ideological spasms mean nothing to us. So, do not single out Russia, please.

I singled out the US too but you didn't notice that. You sound like I condone what the US does but I don't. If criticizing the US means staying silent about the mischiefs of her adversaries that I cannot do for I hate being a one eyed person.


Currently, people of your kind would die for the US to have the sole veto power.

I would die for the godamn veto to be abolished. If you think I'm a US poodle like many are it is your shortcoming not mine. Perhaps you should read my posts about the US in general before making such assumption, trust me it won't hurt you. You Chinese people often talk of wisdom and true wisdom dictates that you get to know a person quite well before judging what he believes in or what he is.
 
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I singled out the US too but you didn't notice that. You sound like I condone what the US does but I don't. If criticizing the US means staying silent about the mischiefs of her adversaries that I cannot do for I hate being a one eyed person.

I know that. I know your critical view of the US. But, on this particular issue, I see you are falling squarely on the US camp by criticizing Russia (and by extension, China) for using its veto power to prevent a condensed coalition attack (which would likely be composed heavily of US, France, UK, Turkey and the Gulf) on the Syrian government.

Obviously, we, and probably our countries, are not looking eye to eye on the Syrian issue and I am proud of China's position on this, whether you call it mischief or not.

I would die for the godamn veto to be abolished. If you think I'm a US poodle like many are it is your shortcoming not mine. Perhaps you should read my posts about the US in general before making such assumption, trust me it won't hurt you. You Chinese people often talk of wisdom and true wisdom dictates that you get to know a person quite well before judging what he believes in or what he is.

I was talking hypothetically of your position on US veto power on the Syrian issue, particularly. Logic dictates that, being on the same side with the US, Israel, KSA, Turkey and the likes, US' overwhelming power over China and Russia on the Syrian issue to your liking would be to your interest.

However, your interests are squarely against and inimical to our interests.
 
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