Mastan,
Ill try to clarify your points one by one..
The issue here is that pakistan is still fighting the war of the 80-----. What pakistani generals are not telling the pakistani public is that it was not america that wanted to get involved in that war---but it was pakistan that screwed america into getting involved---.
Cold war was never between USSR and Pakistan, it was between USA and USSR, the bold part is exactly my point, public doesnt need to know everything, thats why we have leading people in different fields, otherwise societies wont work. If you do that, its going to be anarchy everywhere, that is the sole reason of me being against free media.
And USA got involved in USSR by themselves, they got screwed by themselves, If Pakistan was not there to help them, they would really have been screwed BIG time, might have involved some other entities.
The station chief at that time in pakistan had told his govt----according to his analysis it would be a local conflict----and the russians are not interested to go any further than that and u s was fine with that then Zia tricked them into this mess.
For your information, the station chief was wrong in his assessment, if that was the case (I would require a source for this from you)
Afghanistan was pro-Russia, at least Kabul was
there could have been no other logical reason for them to attack Afghanistan
At that time Pakistan had no other choice to protect itself from possible attack of USSR.
The bold part is rather funny to read, you mean to say that mighty USA was made fool out of by a single third world country man? If so, then they were suppose to get screwed.. No my friend, they knew what they were getting into, they wanted it, they went for it
A game is never played on equal basis----there is no concept of equality between two participants each plays to his strengths.
You missed the point or you intentionally tried to twist what I said.. my words were
Games are played on equal terms
not equal strengths
hope you know the difference
There is not going to 'friends not masters' scenario-----that was an error on part of pakistan for not understandoing and accepting its position.
Again, you either are trying to play a dirty game or you dont understand.. there are no friends or masters in this game
its purely playing the cards right
and at the moment, Pakistan has a stronger hand, the only problem is with the hands that are playing for our country, and I am not referring to Military top brasses, Im talking about the political side.
You people don't even treat your servants and poor relatives with equal status and respect----how do you expect to ask it from others----just because you are a nation----doesnot give you equal position of strength.
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read the above response
It is time that the old myths need to be changed----I have first person communication access to two to four of the top executives in pakistan---not directly by myself----but through a conduit----and the news is---a level of callousness and a lack of understanding and accepting the situation is prevalent in the top echelons of the govt. They are basically clueless as what to do----there is no concern at the top as what may happen in the future as how the u s is positioning itself after 9 years of wot.
Thanks for elaborating, my point exactly, the cards are strong but the representatives are mentally retarded
you dont need to rely on 2-4 of your acquaintances acquaintance, Ive practically lived with those top executives for three years (more or less) working as Systems Analyst for PM secretariat
Bottom line? We need better representatives in Political side
Pakistanis also need to move ahead from the idea that OBL was a creation of the americans----well it maybe----but 23 years had past when he was----people need to take ownership of their actions---and can't put the blame on what someone did 20 plus years ago.
Pakistanis have moved on from creation of OBL
we are now stuck on destruction of OBL (in case youve missed it)
For the bold part
its US who needs to take this advice
not the Pakistanis
How many of you would want to be castigated for your sins committed 20 plus years ago.
Irrelevant!
My goodman----it is for the love of my country that I say these things over here----the messages that I sent to Kiyani and Pasha and Gilani were delivered to their desks and they read them----. The propsal for Kiyani was not subtle at all----.
Kiyani and Pashas response has been clearly stated
Order and it will be delivered
No need to blame them
Gilani or Zardari does not give a damn about your personal messages as long as their swiss banks are being filled
My personal message to you
Act to change the Political side of servants
sack the ones who are incapable and recruit the ones who have the capability
after all, they are paid to do a job, nothing more
What was it----12 frontier force men were executed a few days ago on video----where is the strike force in response to that. The general should have been acting like a mad man on a mission to take out those who executed the FC men.
On whos order?? In case you dont understand, army comes under the direct jurisdiction of President of Pakistan
If a direct order is not given by the Government, any such action would be considered treason, and hope you know the punishment for that
There is no place for argument here----in today's world---there is no place for a quiet man----as a matter of fact----he is your worst enemy---.
There is really no need for argument here
This quote of yours is not worth it
Cheers!
