US Commander:India poised for better role in Afghanistan.

[karan.1970]

We are all fully aware of Indias intent - If it was humanitarian and wanting to assist in aiding Afghanistanis then im sure all would welcome any moves offered by them. I believe their intent is non humanitarian and serves only one purpose and thats to create mischief. They seem to festering on getting involved as if its a priority in their calender. The obsession grows deeper and even more obvious.

No mate.. Its very pragmatic.. Increased pressure on Pakistan from its Western border by Indian influence in Afghanistan, means reduced pressure from Pakistan in Kashmir. Only a blind man would fail to notice this trend in last 3-4 years.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

After so much on terrorism by taliban, I am shocked posters here are still dreaming of Taliban taking over Afghanistan again.

People dont want to development of afghanistan, roads, railway network, school for girls, hospitals, TV, radio.

People dont want to see afghans happy after US is gone, they want Taliban should return, but what if Taliban returns in Pakistan, it has already good hold in KP and other nearby areas. Taliban is blowing security forces and civilians in peshawar, it is blowing schools in KP area and still people wish taliban should rule afghanistan. I am shocked.

 

[nalandapride]

^^^Relevance???

India definitely have a role to play.... They must come forward to help the refugees, must share some burden..

Iran is with us(Iranians are only against US) and soon our Railway line from Chabahar to Hajigak will be a reality just keep on watching. And regarding the Refugee,Pakistan also had huge Afghan Refugees even when Taliban was in power in Afghanistan. Pakistan have interest in keeping these refugees otherwise how come Pakistan has no place for Pakistan loving half a million Biharis stranded in Bangladesh but have open heart for 1.5 million Afghan refugees.

 

[fd24]

Not really.. I think they are to provide Moral and Diplomatic support to Balochi militants/insurgents/freedom fighters..

I think we can agree on this one dude. Why call them "consulates" and "information centers" and play charades? Why not just call them what they are. With respect karan - they dont just provide "diplomatic support" - we both know the intent we agree apon this. Now lets agree on the rest and say their financial and arms support is blatant.
If Pakistan decided to support insurgents/freedom fighters in India - i think knickers would be getting into a twist in India dude.
Why cant India look after number 1 rather than attempting to stick their noses into issues not concerning them? One would think they had no issues in their own back yard!

 

[karan.1970]

So after so much on terrorism by taliban, I am shocked posters here are still dreaming of Taliban taking over Afghanistan again.

People dont want to so development of aghanistan, roads, railway network, school for girls, hospitals, TV, radio.

People dont want to see afghans happy after US is gone, they want Taliban should return, but what if Taliban returns in Pakistan, it has already good hold in KP and other nearby areas. Taliban is blowing security forces and civilians in peshawar, it is blowing schools in KP area and still people wish taliban should rule afghanistan. I am shocked.

Dont be shocked.. But you are right.. Today, the chances of Taliban (or related organizations) have a higher chance of coming to power in Pakistan, than they have of doing that in Afghanistan.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Well...Soviets tried to do exactly the same in 80's...Soviets wanted to give a major role to India in Afghanistan... And the rest is history....Everyone knows what happened to Soviets after tht......I would like to say it to US...Try your luck again.....We will happily repeat history....if u wish so...

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

If Pakistan decided to support insurgents/freedom fighters in India - i think knickers would be getting into a twist in India dude.

Pakistan has already supported insurgents in India like Khalistan and Kashmiri militants. And in both case India has completely eliminated terrorism.

 

[karan.1970]

I think we can agree on this one dude. Why call them "consulates" and "information centers" and play charades?

Because the prime purpose of a consulate is Diplomatic in nature.. Where do charades come in?

Why not just call them what they are.

They are called Consulates (Diplomatic outposts of a country).. What else would you call them?

With respect karan - they dont just provide "diplomatic support" - we both know the intent we agree apon this. Now lets agree on the rest and say their financial and arms support is blatant.

That I certainly dont agree on.. Diplomatic & Moral support is all we provide.. On the same lines of the Diplomatic and moral support provided by Pakistani State to Kashmiri insurgents. Actually India has learnt this art from our brethren across our western border only

If Pakistan decided to support insurgents/freedom fighters in India - i think knickers would be getting into a twist in India dude.

you mean you guys still have bandwidth to do that while reeling under the blows of terrorist and sectarian violence in KP, Balochistan, Karachi etc.. Good luck in trying that..

btw, last time I used the phrase "Knickers in a twist", I received a warning from the moderators for bad language..Looks like whats good for Peter is certainly not good for Paul (or Kaif )

Why cant India look after number 1 rather than attempting to stick their noses into issues not concerning them? One would think they had no issues in their own back yard!

Sometimes, offence is the best defence.. Thanks to India's Afghanistan policy, Kashmir has been peaceful like never before in last 3-4 years..

Well...Soviets tried to do exactly the same in 80's...wanted to give a major role to India in Afghanistan... And the rest is history....Everyone knows what happened to Soviets after tht......I would like to say it to US...Try your luck again.....We will happily repeat history....if u wish so...

If the history repeats itself, it will be pretty awesome.. Post 1980's India has become much stronger and prosperous, Pakistan has become much weaker and poorer.. And Pakistan lost its major ally from 1980's (USA)....

I dont mind that storyline repeating itself

 

[notsuperstitious]

Pakistan has already supported insurgents in India like Khalistan and Kashmiri militants. And in both case India has completely eliminated terrorism.

Pakistanis are telling us, do as I say, don't do as I do.

In any case, there is no proof of India's involvement in Balochistan. Its alright to tease Pakistanis about it just for kicks, but perpetuating such lies spread by Pakistani armed forces to hide their own failures and to justify meddling in Afghanistan is not going to intellectually help the Pakistani posters here.

And help, they need.

 

[nalandapride]

Kandahar is Afghanistan's second largest city, so is Jalalabad a big city, not opening any consulate there sounds like Denying any country to open consulate in Mumbai . Lots of Afghan comes to India for education, medical facilities and other work. And there are the Indian consulate in far North of Afghanistan, why Pakistan seems worried about Indian consulates in far North of Afghanistan.

Pakistan will only blame but won't provide any proof.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

Kandahar is Afghanistan's second largest city, so is Jalalabad a big city, not opening any consulate there sounds lie Denying any country to open consulate in Mumbai . And are the Indian consulate in far North of Afghanistan, why Pakistan seems worried about Indian consulates in far North of Afghanistan.

Pakistan will only blame but won't provide any proof.

Many people from afghanistan come to India for higher studies, business, even afghan armed forces come India for training and development, so we need the consulates.

We are investing 2 billion dollars for development of Afghanistan, obvioulsy we need the number of consulates to oversee the proper development of projects India is handling.

They dont have any proof, what they have is big conspiracy theories about CIA- MOSSAD - RAW involvement.

 

[Aramsogo]

Absolutely. Great News. India and Indians need a very, very large roll in Afghanistan.

Washington: India, which is one of the top donors for Afghanistan post 9/11, is poised to play a very important role as the international community prepares to withdraw troops from this war-torn country, a top American commander has told lawmakers.

Testifying before a Congressional Committee, General John Allen, Commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan told lawmakers on Tuesday that India is not only a major economic donor but also has offered to support the development of the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF).

"The Indian government, ... with whom we have very strong relations, appears to be poised ultimately not just to have a substantial economic interest, perhaps even eclipsing the Chinese interest... but also has long-term ties, very healthy and friendly ties with Afghanistan and, in fact, is offering to support the development of the Afghan National Security Forces," Allen said in response to a question.

India poised for better role in Afghanistan: US Commander - World News - IBNLive

 

[Pakistanisage]

You are right about J & G, but screwed up on next 2 letters.. Its Jai Hind....

Actually Karan jee I realize you are a bit slow and I hate to burst your bubble like this, but that mispelling in " JAY "as you call it may have been by design to rhyme with you know what, Capische MON AMI.

And for once try living in present.. Stop making hawaii quillas for the time when uncle Sam will leave Afghanistan and the good terrorists on the payroll of ISI will establish Pakistan's writ in Afghanistan. Thats never going to happen dude.. And even if it does, do remember what happened when that story played itself out in Afghanistan. 8 years after Taliban won Kabul, they were ousted and the worst time in the history of Pakistan began. May be you want a re run of that.. Am sure no sane citizen of Pakistan would want it though..

Unlike you I have been living in the USA for the last 35 years and know the US much better than you MI AMIGO. We Americans neither plan to stay in Afghanistan, nor are we coming back to rescue your rear end in Afghanistan. Why you ask my simpleton Friend so let me explain why ? This war has cost us a TRILLION USD and we are almost Bankrupt. You think we will come back to rescue your Sorry tail in Afghanistan ? Keep dreaming Mi Amigo....My advice to you PADRE, Just enjoy the ROLL Taliban has so lovingly prepared for you my sweet friend.

 

[fd24]

Karan -

1. Your presence in Afghanistan is almost 3 times greater than in the US of A. Now call them "diplomatic" or "Information tourist centers" or whatever you want. I will call it an "obsessive interest ".
2. Lets agree to differ as regards to what kind of support you provide. Readers can decide for themselves the desires of India having 1 "information center" per 5 Indians in Afghanistan..
3. Im sure you will agree with me looking at the OP - we dont need to start discussing Balochistan and Karachi yaar - that would be off topic. Dude you even got so excited Kashmir came into it!!

 

[Black Widow]

Who are Americans and Pakistani to dictate us what we should do in Afgahnistan and what not?? Its totally matter between Indian and Afghanistan.

India will do what we want (If afghanistan permits), we don't need middle men. We didn't listen to America on Iran. we will not listen to them on other issue as well.

Our foreign policy is driven by south block, not Islamabad or Washingaton.
Indian Policy: "We will listen to you humbly but do what ever we like."