US Carrier Conducts Air Wing Sortie Drills in South China Sea

[ZeEa5KPul]

My friend,

US is not a paper tiger. Just saying.

I don't claim it is. But against a warhead the size of a minivan, falling from space at ten times the speed of sound, the US's vaunted carriers are as helpless as fishing trawlers. And AShBM's are far from the only devastating weapons China has and will soon have in its arsenal.

Even worse horrors are on the way:

@Akasa raised a valid point about the KILL CHAIN scenario.

Kill net, not chain, as I argued previously.

 

[F-22Raptor]

America's cowardly sailors are pis*ing themselves and frankly, I don't blame them. I would be fearful too if I were beneath this shadow:

Knowing that in the blink of an eye, the oversized fishing trawler I'm on could become my tomb. That I might never see my family again. Yes, their fear is as understandable as it is palpable.

The US Navy has developed multiple capabilities to defend itself from anti ship ballistic missiles, both kinetic and non. US admirals have openly stated they can defend against those missiles and are not afraid to operate in there range. China has never even tested them against a maneuvering ship. The fact the US Navy operates on a daily basis in China's near abroad tells you what they think of those missiles.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

The US Navy has developed multiple capabilities to defend itself from anti ship ballistic missiles, both kinetic and non. US admirals have openly stated they can defend against those missiles and are not afraid to operate in there range. China has never even tested them against a maneuvering ship. The fact the US Navy operates on a daily basis in China's near abroad tells you what they think of those missiles.

 

[Jlaw]

Are you sure?

Going by what some around here say, US is nothing more than a third-world primitive military with primitive technology now

To be fair US never fought any country equivalent to an Iran yet. US has never went in alone even in Iraq. It was US and her allies.

 

[艹艹艹]

My friend,

US is not a paper tiger. Just saying.

US is a swindler

 

[Realtalk108]

Does everything have to do with race and the notion of "white" culture? This tactic is getting quite obsolete.

Why deny the truth? Part of the reason we hear so much about China is certainly related to race. In a subconscious way at least.

 

[LeGenD]

@ZeEa5KPul

FYI:

Much has been made in recent years of the “antiaccess” strategies some littoral powers such as China and Iran have embraced to discourage U.S. military presence in the areas they seek to dominate. There is no question these strategies pose a potential danger to U.S. aircraft carriers. However, they pose a much greater danger to U.S. and allied military forces operating from land bases within reach of aggressors, because the location of the bases is well known and cannot be changed. Aircraft carriers, on the other hand, are constantly moving and are heavily protected by both their own defenses and those of the other warships in a carrier strike group.

Elaboration:

Because aircraft carriers are crucial to America’s global military posture, the Navy has invested heavily in defending them against attacks by enemies seeking to drive U.S. warships from nearby seas. In fact, the Navy’s current fleet of ten large-deck, nuclear-powered carriers are among the most densely defended assets in the world. Each carrier is surrounded when it deploys by a layered defense designed to prevent hostile warships, aircraft and missiles from reaching the carrier. If any weapons managed to penetrate this shield, they would be unlikely to cause disabling damage.

The survivability of aircraft carriers derives first and foremost from the fact that they are always moving. Unlike land bases whose locations are well known and readily targeted, a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier has unlimited mobility and can move up to 35 miles in an hour -- meaning if it is sighted, it can be anywhere in an area of 6,000 square miles within 90 minutes. Because no potential adversary has overhead reconnaissance systems capable of continuously tracking carriers, this presents an extreme targeting challenge for even the most determined attacker.

In the event of hostilities, U.S. naval forces would move quickly to degrade whatever targeting capabilities an enemy might possess, for example by destroying over-the-horizon radars on land and drones operating near the carrier strike group. Since aircraft carriers are always accompanied by other warships such as destroyers and attack submarines when they deploy, they are not dependent solely on their air wings and on-board weapons for protection. In fact, there are usually several Aegis destroyers or cruisers nearby with networked sensors that can detect and destroy incoming weapons long before they approach the carrier.

The carrier itself is equipped with extensive active and passive defenses, including thousands of tons of armor to mitigate damage from torpedoes or mines. Because the carriers are very big and contain hundreds of water-tight compartments, it would be nearly impossible for anything other than a nuclear weapon to actually sink one. But incoming missiles and munitions might cause significant damage to on-board sensors, command centers and the flight deck, so the Navy has applied both its technology investments and operational planning to assuring that few if any hostile weapons actually reach the carrier.

The carrier air wing includes radar planes that can monitor surrounding air space for hundreds of miles in search of airborne or ballistic threats, and then alert interceptor aircraft or missile batteries on Aegis warships as circumstances dictate. Because the entire defensive architecture is networked, the warship that first detects a danger need not be the vessel that accomplishes its destruction. An airborne radar plane from the carrier might alert a missile defense destroyer to approaching threats so that the potential for successful interception is maximized.

The carrier air wing also provides defense against hostile submarines, which is bolstered by anti-submarine systems on other friendly warships. For instance, the radar planes in the air wing can detect the periscopes of hostile submarines at considerable distance, and HH-60 helicopters organic to the wing are equipped for anti-submarine, anti-surface and counter-mine warfare. When there is significant danger from hostile submarines, the carrier will typically deploy with an attack submarine far exceeding the capabilities of potential undersea adversaries. In addition, nuclear-powered carriers can outrun submarines.

Some of the capabilities developed to protect America’s aircraft carriers are kept secret to complicate the challenge faced by attackers, such as the passive defenses built into the hull of the carriers. However, even a casual review of the capabilities resident in any carrier strike group will reveal extensive, multi-faceted defenses organic or adjacent to the carriers that few enemies could overcome. When these defenses are combined with agile tactics and the introduction of longer-range strike aircraft allowing greater standoff distances, it is clear U.S. carriers are likely to remain lethal and survivable for a long time to come.

Simulations:

Sources:-

• Loren Thompson; Lexington Institute
• Raytheon

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Hope that clears any confusion.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Hope that clears any confusion.

There's no confusion to clear on my part. I'm quite familiar with Raytheon's marketing brochures and they don't impress me, especially not with horsesh*t like this:

it would be nearly impossible for anything other than a nuclear weapon to actually sink one.

Top k3k.
This is a pointless conversation - there's really only one way to find out which of us is right. But I will note one thing: it's China that keeps dredging and building and militarizing and harassing and bending US vassals over further and further. What has the US done? Nothing but those pathetic "FONOPS" the single-digit IQ OP keeps polluting this section with.
What has that accomplished? Zero. Has it deterred China? ...

 

[terranMarine]

To be fair US never fought any country equivalent to an Iran yet. US has never went in alone even in Iraq. It was US and her allies.

That's why i keep on saying the US is a notorious coward. Has the US ever fought alone? Afghan War, Iraq War, Korean War, just saying . Claiming the title as the World's sole super power and boasting all those state of the art weaponry, lots of fighting experiences you have to wonder why the US constantly keeps forcing her allies to fight those unethical wars.

@F-22Raptor keeps getting high whenever there's news about FONOP Doesn't he understand that by sailing in and out of SCS US has not accomplished a thing, only some dead sailors and damaged ships? What has China gained? Well we expanded the areas of our islands, build many nice structures, placing some nice defense and now jamming equipment and there are many more on the list to come.