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US Bill On Balochistan

we should not take this lightly, i know that they cant do anything to Pakistan and Balochs are Pakistanis, but our leaders need to do something before its too late.
 
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Pakistan should learn from India how to solve the problem by learning how they deal with Kashmir = stick and carrot.

India is in U.S. camp along with Israel. No matter how many human right violations India and Israel commit, the U.S. will not raise a whisper against these countries.

Pakistan should learn from China. Kill all the troublemakers, and ignore human rights violations speech from U.S. Pakistan should work closer with China regarding building Pakistan's navy, and Pakistan should work with Iran on Balochistan issue because U.S. is also after Iranian part of Balochistan. Iran has its insurgency controlled, while our stupid free media cries about missing persons.
 
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India is in U.S. camp along with Israel. No matter how many human right violations India and Israel commit, the U.S. will not raise a whisper against these countries.

Pakistan should learn from China. Kill all the troublemakers, and ignore human rights violations speech from U.S. Pakistan should work closer with China regarding building Pakistan's navy, and Pakistan should work with Iran on Balochistan issue because U.S. is also after Iranian part of Balochistan. Iran has its insurgency controlled, while our stupid free media cries about missing persons.

Rightly said.
All 3 nations (USA, Israel, India) have committed atrocities against a people (the native Indians, Palestinians and Kashmiris respectively). They're most obviously gonna help each other out as much as they can, and the US being the current superpower (which means ALOT), it's at the convenience of India and Israel as they can easily hide behind their big bro.
China on the other hand, while not the best example out there, is FAR better than these 3.

However I must disagree with one thing you said: it's in our best interest that no military operations are conducted in Balochistan, not because of what Uncle Sam might say, but because the Baloch might take it as a declaration of war as the Bengalis did back in 1971. We're in a very intricate situation at this moment, we need a selfless genius of somesort to pull us out of this one :undecided:
 
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if the baloch people r with pakistan then army must hav operation against militants and sardars. Govt should bring economic prosperity to people.
 
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Who cares what the U.S says. Only Indian troll makers will be interested in this.

We need to get rid of feudal system first. I think Balochi people will thank us for taking this type of action. Unfortunately these sardars are the ones that are brain washing the locals. They lie at the top of the cream....
 
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Who cares what the U.S says. Only Indian troll makers will be interested in this.

We need to get rid of feudal system first. I think Balochi people will thank us for taking this type of action. Unfortunately these sardars are the ones that are brain washing the locals. They lie at the top of the cream....

True but they're already brainwashed to a high degree! It'll be detrimental to have a military operation on Balochistan at this point, be it against Sardars or else. As I said before, we must not let the Baloch think we're enemies ANY further, so the first thing to do is to actually SPEAK to these Sardars and BLA, and come to a some sort of agreement.
I'm all for granting special status to Balochistan, like the West Germany did with the East Germany.
 
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However I must disagree with one thing you said: it's in our best interest that no military operations are conducted in Balochistan, not because of what Uncle Sam might say, but because the Baloch might take it as a declaration of war as the Bengalis did back in 1971. We're in a very intricate situation at this moment, we need a selfless genius of somesort to pull us out of this one :undecided:

Baloch in Balochistan province are just about 4 million people and not all are against Pakistan. If not military operations, then ISI and Pak army should continue with making the BLA terrorists go missing. We have to act fast and eliminate the insurgency while its weak and small.

Iran has given the terrorists hell in their Balochistan part of Iran. Pakistan should do the same.
 
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America again stabs Pakistan in the back

WASHINGTON – Crossing the limits that apply to the international relations barring all states from interfering in the internal matters of other sovereign states, the US once again stabbed its terror-war ‘ally’ in the back by introducing a resolution in Congress calling for ‘independence’ of Balochistan.

A week after he chaired a Congressional committee’s hearing on Balochistan, US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher tabled a resolution in the US Congress, calling for giving the Baloch ‘right of self-determination’ and their ‘own sovereign country’, raising Pakistan’s ire as the authorities resented the move. A private TV channel quoted Foreign Office spokesperson as saying that the move was an irresponsible act, violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and violation of international laws.

Balochistan is the largest province of Pakistan in the south-west, bordering Iran and Afghanistan. The security forces of the country and the provincial law enforcement agencies have been fighting insurgents, who are duly supported by India, US, Afghanistan and even Israel. Pakistan has repeatedly raised the issue with all these countries, except Israel with which the country has no diplomatic relations, but the flow of men and material from Afghanistan has been continuing.

UN charter binds all the states to fully respect other sovereign countries’ sovereignty and integrity – but the US has a long history of flouting all laws and treaties of international engagement.

The House Concurrent Resolution in the US House of Representatives has been co-sponsored by Representatives Louie Gohmert and Steve King. It highlights the US perspective of the history of Balochistan, and says that revolts in 1958, 1973 and 2005 “indicate continued popular discontent against rule by Islamabad, and the plunder of its vast natural wealth while Balochistan remains the poorest province in Pakistan.”

Bringing Israeli interest more fully into the picture, the text says that there is also an insurgency underway in Sistan-Balochistan, which is being repressed by Iran. Sistan-Balochistan is the Iranian province bordering Pakistani Balochistan and both these cross-border territories share large part of their cultural and historical traditions.

Rohrabacher’s resolution says that it is the US policy to “oppose aggression and the violation of human rights inherent in the subjugation of national groups as currently being shown in Iran and Pakistan against the aspirations of the Baloch people.”

The resolution then involves Afghanistan, saying the people of Balochistan that are “currently divided between Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan, have the right to self-determination and to their own sovereign country and they should be afforded the opportunity to choose their own status among the community of nations, living in peace and harmony, without external coercion.”

Afghanistan was invaded by US-led western forces at the pretext of fighting global militancy following September 11, 2001 attacks at the World Trade Centre. The country is still under effective occupation of the US and her allies.

In a statement from his office, Rohrabacher, who is also the Chair of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, said, “The Balochi, like other nations of people, have an innate right to self-determination. The political and ethnic discrimination they suffer is tragic and made more so because America is financing and selling arms to their oppressors in Islamabad.”

The press release further added that Balochistan is “rich in natural resources but has been subjugated and exploited by Punjabi and Pashtun elites in Islamabad, leaving Balochistan the country’s poorest province.” (Why did he leave out Sindhis :rolleyes:)

Rohrabacher is the same Congressman who had earlier this week introduced a bill calling for awarding the Congressional Gold Medal, the highest civilian award, to Dr Shakil Afridi for ‘revealing the location of Osama bin Laden, directly aiding in the SEAL team operation to kill the former al-Qaeda leader’. Rohrabacher had previously introduced a bill in Congress seeking US citizenship for Dr Afridi.

Media reports had earlier said that Dr Afridi, who is now in the hold Pakistan’s security agencies, had organised a polio vaccination campaign in the city for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), in order to collect DNA sample to prove that the al-Qaeda leader was present in the Abbottabad compound.

The US clandestine raid in Abbottabad and following incidents including the Nato raid on Pakistani border posts in Mohmand in November last year that martyred over two dozen Pakistani soldiers – plunged Pak-US relations to their lowest ebb. Pakistan responded by stopping the passage of Nato supplies through the country and boycotted an international conference on Afghanistan. It also asked the US to evacuate two airbases in Balochistan that were reportedly being used for carrying out drone attacks in Afghanistan as well as in Pakistan.

The US overtures on Balochistan were previously being taken in Islamabad as mere pressure tactics to coerce Pakistan back into the fold, but Friday’s resolution is surely something that would lead to more sharp and concrete reaction from Pakistan.

Interestingly Islamabad was a venue of a three-way Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan summit on the sidelines of which bilateral talks between Islamabad and Kabul were also held on Thursday and Friday. President Karzai made a torrid attack on the Pakistani leadership in a face-to-face meeting with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Thursday, demanding that Islamabad produce top Taliban leaders to negotiate with him, forcing Gilani to halt the meeting where the country’s military and intelligence brass was also present.

The arrogance of Karzai, who considered a puppet of the US by his own countrymen, earned him a sharp rebuke from Pakistani foreign minister on Friday who said: “We are willing to look at anything. But if you have unrealistic, almost ridiculous expectations, then you don’t have sort of common ground to begin with”. This made clear enough that the Afghan delegation is returning with gaining little form this important bilateral engagement.

America again stabs Pakistan in the back | The Nation
 
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Congressmen Balochistan bill violation of international laws: FO

ISLAMABAD: The Foreign Office on Friday termed the bill tabled in House of Representatives by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, seeking right to self-determination for Balochistan, as a 'highly irresponsible attitude'.

According to the statement issued here, the Foreign Office said mover of the bill is 'oblivious to the ground situation' and hoped the move will never succeed.

It said presentation of the bill is in violation of the international laws and shows a 'highly irresponsible attitude' on part of the congressman.

The bill states that the Baloch people 'have the right to self-determination and to their own sovereign country; and they should be afforded the opportunity to choose their own status'.

Congressmen Balochistan bill violation of international laws: FO
 
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India should step in and help the aspiration of Balocho people. India is capable to create another country like Bangladesh.
Afghan and Iranian will also join in this effort.

The reason why Pakistan started its nuclear program in the 1970's under the leadership of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was because India broke Pakistan in 1971. Those 200+ nuclear warheads Pakistan currently possesses was made for you people. So just try doing another stunt like 1971. All 200+ nuclear warheads will be flying over delhi, mumbai, calcutta, and all across the rest of your "shining india".
 
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The reason why Pakistan started its nuclear program in the 1970's under the leadership of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was because India broke Pakistan in 1971. Those 200+ nuclear warheads Pakistan currently possesses was made for you people. So just try doing another stunt like 1971. All 200+ nuclear warheads will be flying over delhi, mumbai, calcutta, and all across the rest of your "shining india".

Even before that. Ayub khan was the first to start. He brought Abdus Salaam...
Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was successful in advancing and promoting this program.
 
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The reason why Pakistan started its nuclear program in the 1970's under the leadership of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was because India broke Pakistan in 1971. Those 200+ nuclear warheads Pakistan currently possesses was made for you people. So just try doing another stunt like 1971. All 200+ nuclear warheads will be flying over delhi, mumbai, calcutta, and all across the rest of your "shining india".
.....oh i am so scared:smokin:
 
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