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US believes Russian President Vladimir Putin has decided to invade Ukraine

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Occupier?

Back in 2014,there were elections in Ukraine. The winner was Yanukovich,who was pro-Russian. Then,riots begun in Kiev that eventually kicked out Yanukovich. However,the majority of the people in eastern,south and southwestern Ukraine,had voted for Yanukovich and they were Russian or Pro-Russian Ukrainians. They rose up against this and just like the right-wing and extreme nationalist rioters and others in Kiev had organized their own militias,the eastern parts did the same.

Crimea is not occupied. Crimea had been part of Russia. Most of the people there wanted to join Russia again. So in fact,Crimea came back to Russia.

While most of the other cities and areas with majority of significant pro-Russian population in Ukraine were under control of the Ukrainian government eventually,the area of Donbass,that is Donetsk and Lugansk,still remained "independent" and kept fighting against the Ukrainian forces with its militia and help from Russia.

That's all.

If the US stages a color revolution in Greece, Turkey gets to invade Greece. Wonderful logic there.

The areas settled by Muslim migrants in Greece should have a vote if to be annexed by Turkey, that is how things work in Russia. Russians are not native to Crimea and Sochi, Russians genocided the natives and then sent occupiers to Russo-fy the regions. Russians are no different than Isrealis, and actually 100X or more worse.

What is happening to the Palestinians happened to Caucasian white natives of the southern part of Russia in greater order of magnitudes. Their crime was not being slavic and being Muslims.

And Ukrainians died by the millions at Moscows evil grasp.

Russia is far worse than the zionist regime. Genociders through and through.

Russia is an evil country filled with evil, and the only time it was good is when it was fully opposing the UK, US and Israel during the later part of the Soviet Union. The cia and the pope staged a cia revolution against the Warsaw Pact, USSR and Yugoslavia and we are dealing with that nightmare in Russia today.
 
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If the US stages a color revolution in Greece, Turkey gets to invade Greece. Wonderful logic there.

The areas settled by Muslim migrants in Greece should have a vote if to be annexed by Turkey, that is how things work in Russia. Russians are not native to Crimea and Sochi, Russians genocided the natives and then sent occupiers to Russo-fy the regions. Russians are no different than Isrealis, and actually 100X or more worse.

What is happening to the Palestinians happened to Caucasian white natives of the southern part of Russia in greater order of magnitudes. Their crime was not being slavic and being Muslims.

And Ukrainians died by the millions at Moscows evil grasp.

Russia is far worse than the zionist regime. Genociders through and through.

Russia is an evil country filled with evil, and the only time it was good is when it was fully opposing the UK, US and Israel during the later part of the Soviet Union. The cia and the pope staged a cia revolution against the Warsaw Pact, USSR and Yugoslavia and we are dealing with that nightmare in Russia today.
You mistake the Soviet Union and the people that suffered under communism with modern Russia.

Ukraine was "Little Russia". Remember the Kievan Rus. It was foreign influence through the centuries that drove them into a nationalism and sense of differenr identity. Stalinism made them hate Moscow,but still a lot of people know their roots and do not hate mother Russia because of the communist tyranny.

What's NATO doing in Russia's front yard? Why are Western Europeans and Americans constantly trying to expand and establish bases around Russia? They are the ones who escalate this. They are the ones who provoked and encouraged the Euromaidan riots in 2014. They are the ones who constantly threaten Russia while surrounding the whole world with military bases.

Russians too have the right to defend their interests and area.
 
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significiant derailment of the thread I must say..

There will occur 3 major wars in that hadith version ''Great war'' in the span of approx 7-9 years and yes it will be nuke warfare.. Hence imho with or without prophecy I know for certainity that 90% of population will die in WW3 not only muslims besides they will be playing a supportive role not the leading role..

An enemy will attack them behind you.. You and them will make an alliance conquer fars, byzentine(rus) and countries in the east.. Then they will turn on us..... According to hadith we will support the one under attack and they will ask for assistance and alliance is between us and them..

This won't occur in this world format and world population will be around 10B at that time but once war ends 1B will remain.. The war will not happen out of the blue but a massive asteroid/comet will land in the east killing one third of the world that is 3.5B and it would be great disaster leading to world economical collapse this is what will start wars allover the place as the food sector crashes..

What I understand is that these fighting in this war will have capability to fight they will not bring swords but aside from that they will win and claim the cities of their foes according to the hadith.. If you read right you will understand 7 rulers will come after the first meaning they will have a dynastic rule with new world order and the fact that the world population decreased to 1B is good for them because it reached limit with 10B and also one bil is controllabe and this dynastic rule will last approx. 120-125 years as world hegemony and then dajjal will usurp their world order.. the thing is that the hadith is vague in timelines but there are some less known hadiths giving an indiction.. The dajjal will stick around not more then 20 years then he gets killed and finally gog and magog come out immediately after his death.. The technology will evolve in the calip dynastic rule more then it has ever in mankind as the el-grid will be limitless going with the natural median energy allowing them to make ridiculous progress technologically.. no gas or fuel.. you can fly in drone car with limitless energy and no need for wires or cables nor chargers for phones or watching tv.. The human population numbers will jump to 10B again before gog and magog comes out which will end this epoch entirely and closure to this epoch chapter..

The prophet speaks about 3 golden ages and we already know 2 golden ages have happened.. He says my nation will have one in the beginning, one in the middle and one in the last.. He also says the last is the best one and it can't be better then the others if it doesn't have an era meaning atleast 120 years of rule.. 4 heavenly calips have come but 8 remains starting with Mahdi he will be followed by a dynastic line where the 7 after him will be calips and the one Isa prays behind is the last one who is fighting against dajjal..

Few thousands will remain to repopulate earth after gog and magog go full extinction level and humanity will start from sqaure zero including all our technology is lost forever and after centuries Ethiopian will destroy Qibla because it has no use at that time and heavens will allow as ppl have forgotten what it is.. It serves nothing or any purpose..
So, you are saying time of Mahdi will be golden age? But, can you explain this to me:

وقوله: "فيريد الدجال أن يقتله فلا يسلط عليه" في رواية أبي الوداك: "فيأخذه الدجال ليذبحه، فيجعل ما بين رقبته إلى ترقوته نحاس، فلا يستطيع إليه سبيلًا" وفي رواية عطية: "فقال له الدجال: لتطيعني أو لأذبحنك، فقال: والله لا أطيعك أبدًا، فأمر به، ناضجع، فلا يقدر عليه، ولا يتسلط عليه مرة واحدة" زاد: "فأخذ بيديه ورجليه فألقي في النار وهي غبراء ذات دخان"، وفي رواية أبي الوداك: "فيأخذ بيديه ورجليه، فيقذف به، فيحسب الناس أنه قذفه إلى النار، وإنما ألقي في الجنة" زاد في رواية عطية: "قال النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم-: "ذلك الرجل أقرب أمتي مني، وأرفعهم درجة"

Read the red part, is it mean it will be the Mahdi? If not, then who is that that is closet to Mohammed and highest of status in his Ummah? If it is the Mahdi than it must mean Dajjal come during his time too. But he is not the one who pray to next Isa.
 
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Ottomans treated the Greeks like kings compared to Russian treatment of Caucasian whites. Dr Oz and many tens of millions of people from Turkey are from Greek Ancestry. Turkey today is filled with Greek Muslims. That cannot be said of the Crimea or NW Caucasus region.

So if you don't behave like Mongol Russians and are accepting of your minority community, you can be invaded. That is the logic of Moscow on the Ukraine.

India can invade Burma because of an Indo-community. And the genocide in Burma to prevent this invasion is acceptable because if there is a Moscow-like genocide in Burma, then India has no reason to invade to annex Indo-Aryan ETHNIC community. Maybe Bangladesh could annex it too. This is how Russia operates here.

Wonderful logic. Your country has majority minority regions, and therefore I have to invade you.

This was the logic of Hitler with the Sudetenland. And Danzig.

So Hitler was correct and Greece was wrong in WWII, admit this.

The Russian Federation needs to be broken up based on ethnic boundaries because it is ZOG.

If the Russians have the standard that Ukrainian majority minority regions need to be part of an ethnic majority country. Then the answer is, no... a big no because Ukraine is Ukraine. however the Russian standards of majority minority should be set for the 10s of ethnic communities of Russia.

Ethnic areas that need countries out of a broken up Russia:

karachay-cherkessia

karbardin

ossetian

chechen

ingush

Dagestan

kalmykia

the many tatar areas

chuvashia

tuva

etc

Since the cia/bush cronies owned Yeltsin and still owns much of Russia oil and gas industry, there is no support of a break up of Russia, as the cia wants to break up China. Cia news 24/7, break up China - Hong Kong! Xinjiang! Tibet!

cia on the genocide in Russia - nothing.

You do have this one piece here:


Take care Tony, that man has blood on his hands​

Evidence shows secret police were behind 'terrorist' bomb


by John Sweeney

The photograph below of a detonator pre-set to explode a bomb calls into question Russian leader Vladimir Putin's line - endorsed by Tony Blair during his visit to Russia yesterday - that Chechen terrorists were responsible for the explosions that killed more than 200 Russians last year.
Two bombs went off in Moscow, but a third bomb planted in Ryazan, 100 miles south, was defused by bomb squad officer Yuri Tkachenko who said: 'It was a live bomb.' It was made of the same explosive, Hexagen, and planted in a similar target - a working-class block of flats.

The third bomb did not go off because the bombers were caught red-handed. They were Russian, not Chechen, and when they were arrested by local police they flashed identity cards from the FSB - the new styling for the KGB, the secret police Putin headed before he became Russia's acting President. Two days later the FSB announced that the third bomb had only been 'a training exercise'.

The Kremlin's evidence that Chechen terrorists bombed Moscow is extremely thin. After the bomb outrages, secret police in the FSB handed out Photofit pictures of unnamed Chechens. No suspects were arrested and no convincing explanation was given to the public.

The third bomb was found in the basement of the flats on the night of 22 September at around 9pm. Tkachenko said: 'It was a live bomb. I was in a combat situation.' He tested the three sugar sacks in the basement with his MO-2 portable gas analyser, and got a positive reading for Hexagen, the explosive used in the Moscow bombs.

The timer of the detonator was set for 5.30am, which would have killed many of the 250 tenants of the 13-storey block of flats. The sacks were taken out of the basement at around 1.30 am and driven away by the FSB. But the secret police forgot to take away the detonator, which was left in the hands of the bomb squad. They photographed it the next day.
The bombers were discovered by the people they meant to kill. Vladimir Vasiliev, an engineer com ing home for the night, noticed three strangers acting suspiciously by the basement of his block of flats at 14/16 Novosyolov Street, literally New Settlers Street.

Vasiliev noticed that the number plate at the front of the car had been covered up with a piece of paper, on it '62', the Ryazan regional code. At the back of the car the plate had the Moscow regional code.

Vasiliev, puzzled, decided to call the police. 'As we were waiting for the lift, one of the young guys got out of the car and the girl asked: "Have you done everything?" '
Vasiliev observed the three in the car: 'They were Russian, absolutely, not Asiatic. The girl was a blonde.'

The local police arrested two men that night, according to Boris Kagarlitsky, a member of the Russian Institute of Comparative Politics. 'FSB officers were caught red-handed while planting the bomb. They were arrested by the police and they tried to save themselves by showing FSB identity cards.'

Then, when the headquarters of the FSB in Moscow intervened, the two men were quietly let go.

Police Inspector Andrei Chernyshev was the first to enter the basement. He said: 'It was about 10 in the evening. There were some strangers who were seen leaving the basement. We were told about the men who came out from the basement and left with the car with a licence number which was covered with paper. I went down to the basement.
'This block of flats had a very deep basement which was completely covered with water. We could see sacks of sugar and in them some electronic device, a few wires and a clock. We were shocked.

'We ran out of the basement and I stayed on watch by the entrance and my officers went to evacuate the people.'

The following day, on 24 September, the FSB in Moscow announced that there had never been a bomb, only a training exercise. Vasiliev said: 'I heard the official version on the radio, when the press secretary of the FSB announced it was a training exercise. It felt extremely unpleasant.'


Russia is allowed to genocide and oppress minorities because Russia is backed by those connected with the Russian mob. And the bush cronies and the Russian mob goe back decades. That is why there is no US war with Russia, because the cia mob and the Russian mob and the Chabad mob are in on it together. The standard operating procedure is to have a false flag operation with warmongering Republicans - bush and 9/11. trump and the outbreak. And to have cia-connected Russia annex territory with Democrats, who won't do a large scale war with Russia.
You mistake the Soviet Union and the people that suffered under communism with modern Russia.

Ukraine was "Little Russia". Remember the Kievan Rus. It was foreign influence through the centuries that drove them into a nationalism and sense of differenr identity. Stalinism made them hate Moscow,but still a lot of people know their roots and do not hate mother Russia because of the communist tyranny.

What's NATO doing in Russia's front yard? Why are Western Europeans and Americans constantly trying to expand and establish bases around Russia? They are the ones who escalate this. They are the ones who provoked and encouraged the Euromaidan riots in 2014. They are the ones who constantly threaten Russia while surrounding the whole world with military bases.

Russians too have the right to defend their interests and area.

Kievan Rus was Rurikid. Where are the Ruriks. Russia was founded by non-slavs. When the slavs took over, genocide prevailed. That is the basis of "Russian interest and area". Why does not Russia leave the land that was stolen and focus other things.

What interest in Caucasus. The Russian Federation genocided the Chechens twice. That was Yeltsin and putin.
 
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The Russian Federation needs to be broken up based on ethnic boundaries because it is ZOG.
The Russian Federation is ZOG?
THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION? Not USA? Not half of Europe? But Russia and Putin?

What are you smoking?
 
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This is part of Russian zog:


Another example:



Putin’s rabbi ‘very good friends’ with Nathaniel Rothschild, met at World Economic Forum​



Putin appoints zionist jew to be Prime Minister:


In Russia denying the Holohoax is a crime


Son of Russian-Jewish oligarch ‘Putin’s chef’ becomes founder of company tied to scandalous dacha​



Russia is partly owned by these mainly Jewish Oligarchs:

Know Your Oligarch: A Guide to the Jewish Billionaires in the Trump-Russia Probe​



Putin admits that putins grandmother was jewish.


And I could fill this forum with other sources showing that putin is zionist and a jew and in on it with zionists.

The Russian Federation genocided twice. The Russian Empire genocided and did ethnic cleansing. Russia is not a responsible nation that should be in command of any minority community. And Russia want more minority Ukrainians. Post-USSR Russia is worse than Americans, worse than the Israelis.



Russia is a terrorist state. The UK is a terrorist state. The USA is a terrorist state. The zionist regime is a terrorist state. If you are friends with Bennett and Netanyahu and the bushes, you get to have your own worse than ISIS-style terrorist state.

The rest of the globe is to be used as labour and resource stealing and looting. Russia is in on it with Washington. And for that Obama let the Crimea be taken without warfare. Ukraine is victim of east and west. And has a ZOG-bot in Kiev. So the cia controls Washington, Kiev and Moscow, as it approves another annexation for Russia.
 
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For 70 years, this info was hidden from the public:


Then an article is written about it, and it gets shut down, probably from the jewish lobby.

The deception of putin fighting zionists and hating Isreal is the greatest deception of the 21st century. To control Russia, the cia and other allies have to fool that Russia is not controlled. Yet the MSM hints at this, and the alt-media sources are ample in their condemnation of putin as not sincere in fighting the ZOG.
 
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Russians genocided the Crimean Tatar Muslims.

Russians genocided the Circassian Muslims.

Russians genocided the Chechen Muslims.

Russians genocided the Chechen Muslims.

Russians genocided the Chechen Muslims.

No remorse by the Russians. Only... "We are Russians and Gawd is with us"

After occupation of the Crimea by Russians - "Crimea is Russian!"

After the occupation of the NW Caucasus by Russians - "Sochi is Russian!"

You mistake the Soviet Union and the people that suffered under communism with modern Russia.

Ukraine was "Little Russia". Remember the Kievan Rus. It was foreign influence through the centuries that drove them into a nationalism and sense of differenr identity. Stalinism made them hate Moscow,but still a lot of people know their roots and do not hate mother Russia because of the communist tyranny.

What's NATO doing in Russia's front yard? Why are Western Europeans and Americans constantly trying to expand and establish bases around Russia? They are the ones who escalate this. They are the ones who provoked and encouraged the Euromaidan riots in 2014. They are the ones who constantly threaten Russia while surrounding the whole world with military bases.

Russians too have the right to defend their interests and area.

Any sensible person just by looking at the map will see NATOs expansion even though a promise was made to not expand via ex-Soviet States, will understand Russian viewpoint and its anger. I'm completely on Russian side as they were basically forced into this position by the American's.

@zectech do not talk to me about Russian genocide and put Muslims in the end. The collective West has killed and maimed far more Muslims than the Russians could ever do, and I wish nothing more than a wound opening up in European backside via Ukraine.
 
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So if Russia killed off more than 10% of the population of pakistan, three times, like the Russians did to the Chechens. There should be no international outrage, and saying that Russia is again genociding Muslims is inflammatory. ok.
 
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Crimea was part of Russia. It was transferred to Ukraine for some 40 years and after the collapse of the USSR it remained as part of Ukraine as an autonomous region. During the Euromaidan riots,the legally elected pro-Russian president was kicked out. Russians and Pro-Russian population in Ukraine rose up against this. Crimea has majority pro-Russian population. There was a referendum and they voted to become part of Russia. So that returned to Russia. You know,these countries,Russia,Belarus and Ukraine were once one. They are effectively one people,they are Rus'.
still, you haven't answered my question, why do Russian/Putin robbers still want to attack an independent Ukraine? If I reverse the situation of Ukraine invading Russia (with reasons like you said) would you still agree?
 
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