US backs India on UNSC seat despite Syria vote

[Mo12]

FACT : India will NOT GET permanent U.N. Seat.

In the next 5 years, we agree with you.

 

[somebozo]

Some how the Indians and India media thinks USA is worshiping them!

 

[DarK-LorD]

FACT : India will NOT GET permanent U.N. Seat.

FACT:

 

[jdme]

Some how the Indians and India media thinks USA is worshiping them!

Surely that is none of your business?

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So what exactly is the news? US is supporting a position India already holds?

 

[ashokdeiva]

China showed interest to support India for Communist Party of India (Marxist) so don't ignore it, second bypass Pakistan's interests couldn't be possible and China will not go against its important ally in south Asia.

For the bold part, I can say this. Its not China that is depending on Pakistan for its weapons. Its the other way around. You don't have US on your side, Russia has always been a friend of India. You have China(the only one who supports you with weapons to keep the balance between India and Pakistan)
Do you guys think that if China votes in favour of India for UNSC, you are not going sing treaties to buy weapons from them. If you do that, you have lost the largest seller of weapons to you.

On the other hand let me sum up the benifits that Pakistan might get if India gets UNSC seat.
1)You can count on India more that the other UNSC memebers next to China to push your creative goals at the UNSC.
2)Chance for more mutual benifits.
3)India has not been a agressor on your land, as you know that we left all the land we captured in your soil in 1971. If you guys have sence, you should realize that we have no interest in your land.

so you can too support Indias bid for UNSC, if you see that we can be friends.

 

[Hafizzz]

FACT:

You are living in a dream world. The truth is USA doesn't want to enlarge the permanent U.N. member club size.

For the bold part, I can say this. Its not China that is depending on Pakistan for its weapons. Its the other way around. You don't have US on your side, Russia has always been a friend of India. You have China(the only one who supports you with weapons to keep the balance between India and Pakistan)
Do you guys think that if China votes in favour of India for UNSC, you are not going sing treaties to buy weapons from them. If you do that, you have lost the largest seller of weapons to you.

On the other hand let me sum up the benifits that Pakistan might get if India gets UNSC seat.
1)You can count on India more that the other UNSC memebers next to China to push your creative goals at the UNSC.
2)Chance for more mutual benifits.
3)India has not been a agressor on your land, as you know that we left all the land we captured in your soil in 1971. If you guys have sence, you should realize that we have no interest in your land.

so you can too support Indias bid for UNSC, if you see that we can be friends.

Pakistan will be bullied to death if India gets permanent U.N. seat.

 

[jdme]

You are living in a dream world. The truth is USA doesn't want to enlarge the permanent U.N. member club size.

Let that be our concern, right?

 

[ashokdeiva]

You are living in a dream world. The truth is USA doesn't want to enlarge the permanent U.N. member club size..

Come on dude, it seems that the President of the States has made a personal assurance to you that they don't want INDIA to be there in the UNSC.

Pakistan will be bullied to death if India gets permanent U.N. seat.

This is the fear that you have been living with since the birth of Pakistan, don't you guys realize that the threat you fear is imaginary. Lets start with History. when did the last time INDIA interveened in your personal affires unless otherwise provoked.
No part of the INDIAN nation is out of control that a group of people wish to see PAKISTAN destroyed in INDIAs hands. No terror cells operate in INDIA to destabalize Pakistan. any terror cells like Kalistan movement or Moaist, etc work against INDIA and Pakistan need not fear like INDIA does as PAKISTAN has given space in their one soil for JeM, LeT, etc to fight INDIA.
we do not do the dirty work brother.

 

[jdme]

Pakistan will be bullied to death if India gets permanent U.N. seat.

|How? China is going to quit?

 

[Gautam]

Its not a permanent seat. It's not with veto powers

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US will not vote for India to have permanent membership with veto powers.

The thread doesn't say that. Can you quote an official statement from US which supports your claim?

 

[Gautam]

There's a different between supporting and then actually voting for it. The 5 permanent members have veto powers. It doesn't matter if 99% of the assembly votes in favor. If even 1 member with veto power votes against it, it won't happen.

If I'm not wrong all the 5 members have supported India. What I don't understand is that when you say, supporting is different and voting is different. Why would someone support if they don't want to vote for us in the first place?

And since, all the 5 members have supported, when this "voting" will take place?

I'm sorry man, I guess I'm asking you so many questions... lol

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The thread doesn't say that. Can you quote an official statement from US which supports your claim?

Can you quote an official statement from the Chinese foreign ministry to support YOUR claim?

Note that I said a "direct statement", not an over-excited Indian media headline, of which there are many on this very issue.

What the Chinese foreign ministry actually said is: "We support India's aspirations to play an increased role in the United Nations", which is so vague that it could mean anything.

So basically, find an official Chinese statement, that is similar to the US statement in the OP.

 

[IndoCarib]

Can you quote an official statement from the Chinese foreign ministry to support YOUR claim?

Note that I said a "direct statement", not an over-excited Indian media headline, of which there are many on this very issue.

What the Chinese foreign ministry actually said is: "We support India's aspirations to play an increased role in the United Nations", which is so vague that it could mean anything.

So basically, find an official Chinese statement, that is similar to the US statement in the OP.

It could mean anything, but definitely not 'We dont support India on UNSC seat'

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It could mean anything, but definitely not 'We dont support India on UNSC seat'

Without the explicit support of ALL the P5 members, and without a clear a 2/3 supermajority in the general assembly, the UN charter cannot be modified to allow new permanent members.

Charter of the United Nations: Chapter XVIII: Amendments

So if even one P5 member is not explicitly supporting it, it won't pass.

 

[Gautam]

Can you quote an official statement from the Chinese foreign ministry to support YOUR claim?

Note that I said a "direct statement", not an over-excited Indian media headline, of which there are many on this very issue.

What the Chinese foreign ministry actually said is: "We support India's aspirations to play an increased role in the United Nations", which is so vague that it could mean anything.

So basically, find an official Chinese statement, that is similar to the US statement in the OP.

“China ready to support Indian bid for UNSC” - The Hindu: Mobile Edition

BTW, What do they mean by saying that? You're right, it could mean anything. Rather than taking it negative, we took it positive. And your government did not say anything like "not supporting" either.