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US backs China & Russia, blow to Indian UNSC dream

Indians do believes that this world is one big family and call it Vasudeva kutumbam which is a term from vedas.

You are not seeing this that majority of nations to supports Permanent seat for India at UNSC.

So is that how people in India begs. I saw it in the Indian superpower movie so I am wondering if that is standard wording of Indian beggars. The white beggars in the movie were using the same words and white people just don't use the same phrases.
 
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So is that how people in India begs. I saw it in the Indian superpower movie so I am wondering if that is standard wording of Indian beggars. The white beggars in the movie were using the same words and white people just don't use the same phrases.

Your examples are quite strange for me.

Here we are talking about a whole nation of 1.25 Billion people which is one of the surviving ancient civilization.
 
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Your examples are quite strange for me.

Here we are talking about a whole nation of 1.25 Billion people which is one of the surviving ancient civilization.

White beggars don't call people mothers and sisters.
 
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Over 60 mn people affected by UNSC malfunctioning: India | Zee News

United Nations: Making a strong pitch for urgent reform of an "ineffective" Security Council, India has said the UN body's "malfunctioning" has affected over 60 million people and resulted in huge human and economic costs in terms of wars and conflicts.

"We note that that an ineffective Security Council has meant huge human, economic and environmental costs in terms of wars and conflicts, which the international community cannot justify," India's Permanent Representative to the UN Ambassador Asoke Mukerji said here yesterday.

"The figures speak for themselves, especially the single biggest statistic of more than 60 million people affected by the malfunctioning of the Security Council," he said during the General Debate of the General Assembly on 'Question of equitable representation and increase in the membership of the Security Council'.

Mukerji emphasised that the international community's work on UNSC reform cannot be seen in "isolation" as some kind of academic exercise which has no relation to the world.

"The very fact that our leaders, unanimously, adopted the most ambitious Agenda 2030 to eradicate poverty from the face of the earth within one generation gives our work a context and framework.

"The longer we delay in reforming the Security Council, the more pressure we put on the successful implementation of Agenda 2030, especially for developing countries," he said.

The debate was convened by UN General Assembly President Mogens Lykketoft days ahead of the commencement of the next round of Inter-Governmental Negotiations (IGN) under a new chair -- Luxembourg's envoy to the UN Sylvie Lucas.

This will be the first round of IGN talks after the UNGA had adopted last month by consensus a negotiating text that would form the basis of further talks on the reform process.

India's candidature as a permanent member of a reformed and expanded Security Council was supported by permanent member the UK as well as by France.

In the debate yesterday, Pakistan opposed creation of new permanent seats and said the body instead needed expansion in the category of elected seats given the increase in the UN's membership since the Council was last expanded five decades ago.

"A few countries have sought to promote their self- arrogated right to a privileged and unequal status. And they have maintained this rigid position since the process began about two decades ago," Pakistan's envoy to the UN Maleeha Lodhi said in her remarks.

She said this "rigidity and blind pursuit of national ambition is the real reason for our persisting failure to achieve a more democratic, accountable, transparent and effective Security Council," she added.

Lodhi said the democratisation of the Council required the aggregation and promotion of the interests and aspirations of all member states, no matter their size.

She said there was no evidence to support the argument that more permanent seats could enhance the Council's legitimacy, calling on member states to "soberly" think whether permanence was a solution to "so-called present day political realities" that were themselves transient.

"Had there been flexibility on the part of delegations that had unjustifiably insisted on securing permanent seats, many member states would have already played a positive role in the Security Council," she said.

Mukerji called for an announcement of a fixed schedule of meetings of the IGN beginning early next month, at a regular interval to commence text based negotiations, saying that meetings should be held at least once a week given the urgency of the subject at hand.

He said India looks forward to the Chairperson circulating a communication conveying the substantive agenda of these negotiations during the 70th session "based on the text."

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India wants more consultations between UNSC and member states | Zee News

United Nations : India has called for more consultations between the UN Security Council and member states on special political missions to ensure transparency in the policy formulation of these missions and to minimise the disconnect between their mandates and political reality.

"We would urge for more consultations by the UN Security Council on issues related to Special Political Missions (SPM). There should be free flow of communication between the Security Council, General Assembly and the Secretariat regarding the SPMs," visiting MP Rattan Lal Kataria said at a debate on the Special Political Missions here yesterday.

He said such communications should not be routine in nature, but should involve the Member States in a substantial manner.

"We have noticed that the policy formulation for SPMs is a rather opaque process which lacks transparency," he said.

He stressed the importance of having clear-cut mandates for SPMs, saying that there is blurring of mandate and disconnect between the mandate and the political situation of a particular region where SPMs are proposed to be sent.

"We would expect more consultation with member states for policy formulation related to SPMs so that chances of disconnect of the mandate of SPMs with the political reality is minimized," he added.

According to the report of the Secretary General, there are 38 SPMs operational as on September 30, 2015.

He said the large spectrum of issues covered by these SPMs need to be matched by appropriate accountability of the SPMs and transparency in the appointment of its personnel.

He cited the example of the appointment of experts of the Al-Qaida Sanctions Monitoring Team, in which while five expert?s positions seem to be reserved for the permanent members, there are three experts from the general membership.

"It may be noted that there is no UN Security Council resolution which states that five experts should be from the P-5 (Permanent five). Even for the appointment of the three experts from outside the P-5, the process is opaque and lacks credibility," he said.

Kataria further stressed that when the UNSC does decide to increase the mandate of the SPMs, there should be well established mechanisms in place to ensure its accountability.

"We are in favour of allowing the political processes to be given its due place and not substitute it with peacekeeping operations which would be ill equipped to handle such a situation," he said.

"We would like to add that there could be no responsibility without authority. The missing link is more involvement of the general membership in SPMs operations including its mandate formulation and renewal," he said.

PTI
 
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UNSC membership for Rs 73 crore?
Rajeev Shukla | November 18, 2015, 01.33 am IST
India has been fighting for a permanent seat in the UN Security Council for the last 20 years but our efforts are yet to fructify. Only when the UN agrees to the implementation of the proposed reform measures will the Security Council be expanded. Sushma Swaraj, our Union minister for external affairs, is of the opinion that the environment is favourable for UN reforms and, as soon as the reforms proposal is passed, the Security Council will be expanded to include more members. Consequent to this, India will fight for a permanent seat in the Security Council and Ms Swaraj has assured the country that India’s victory is certain given the strong support its bid has from various countries.

Permanent membership has its own significance as it comes with veto power — a country having permanent UNSC membership can exercise veto against any proposal. For example, whenever there has been any proposal against India in the Security Council, Russia has prevented its passage by exercising its veto. Now India wants the same privilege. The argument the Indian government is putting forth for a permanent seat in the UNSC is that India is a large economy that’s quickly moving from a developing to a developed one. Besides, India has a population of 125 crore and therefore it is not inferior to China.

There is not an iota of doubt that India deserves permanent membership in the UNSC, but at the same time we need to introspect on our weaknesses. If there is one country which is vociferously campaigning against India’s claim for a permanent seat it is Pakistan, and Pakistan is doing it through China. China knows that it has no grounds to openly oppose India’s demand for a permanent Security Council membership, therefore, it is opposing UN reforms per se. As part of an Indian delegation, I’ve been to the UN on a 15-day tour. I participated in meetings of all of its six committees and also had the opportunity to address the UN General Assembly. I also had the privilege of casting the vote on the Cuba proposal on India’s behalf. Taking this opportunity, I discussed India’s interest in permanent membership in the UNSC. All of them were of the view that they want to support India, but somewhere they also gave the impression that India should also realise her responsibilities in the UN. Unless India proves that she is becoming a developed country, nobody will give her the seriousness that the five countries command.

India’s economic contribution to the UN is meager, but its remittance from the UN for participation in peacekeeping missions is massive. As long as we keep ourselves in the rank of poor countries, how can we claim to be a country moving rapidly to become developed, considering that UN requires millions of dollars for its numerous schemes? The country that contributes more money to the UN is listened to. Voting privileges cannot be divorced from finance. I felt depressed and gathered facts. My findings made me speechless: India contributes $11 million per annum, approximately `73 crore, and this matches the contribution of many poor countries. Many times, our permanent representative has recommended that India contribute at least $20 million, if not $50 million, but we are not acceding to that.

Recently, our PM announced an assistance of $1 billion (`6,500 crore) to African countries. Compared to this India’s contribution to the UN is a joke. US contributes more than $500 million to the UN, accounting to 22 per cent of the UN’s total budget. Apart from its contribution, US also provides `18,000 crore towards the UN’s peacekeeping missions. The other permanent members, China, Germany, UK and France contribute $265 million (12.5 per cent), $170 million (8 per cent), $140 million (6.6 per cent) and $106 million (5 per cent) respectively. India’s contribution, `73 crore, is half a per cent of the UN budget, and against this it gets nearly `600 crore from the UN for peacekeeping activities. Even today, India has an outstanding of $110 million from the UN.

It is up to the wisdom of our leaders to understand how important our demand for a permanent Security Council seat in the UN is and how to make our bid compelling. India’s campaign for permanent UN Security Council membership was initiated by Rajiv Gandhi and taken forward by PVN, Vajpayee, Dr Manmohan Singh and now Mr Modi. There is definitely global support for India becoming a permanent UNSC member and if India can manage to push for the proposed reform, while raising its economic contribution to at least $50 million or `300 crore, it will create an enabling environment for India’s claim of a permanent seat at UNSC.

The writer is a Member of Parliament, Rajya Sabha and former Union Minister. The views expressed are personal.
 
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Why would the permanent members of the security council want another member in their midst? The SC is not a democratic institution India! Its member states reflect the world powers of 1945. None of these countries realistically speaking want another member in their club. Even France and the UK might pay lip service about supporting India's accession to the SC, but they do this knowing full well that at least China or the US will oppose India's entry into the SC, and one opposing country is enough to block the entrance of a new nation into the club. India's best bet is to create alternate international institutions (the way China has done with the Asian Bank), but nobody will pay any attention to India if it plays the "SC should be a democratic institution and we make up 20% of the worlds population" card.
 
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Why would the permanent members of the security council want another member in their midst? The SC is not a democratic institution India! Its member states reflect the world powers of 1945. None of these countries realistically speaking want another member in their club. Even France and the UK might pay lip service about supporting India's accession to the SC, but they do this knowing full well that at least China or the US will oppose India's entry into the SC, and one opposing country is enough to block the entrance of a new nation into the club. India's best bet is to create alternate international institutions (the way China has done with the Asian Bank), but nobody will pay any attention to India if it plays the "SC should be a democratic institution and we make up 20% of the worlds population" card.

India has already gathered enough support from UN nations and no one can stop the admission of Republic of India as Permanent member of UNSC.

Dissolving UN means new world order and now even the P5 are not in any position to maintain world peace without India. India matters everywhere .
 
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India has already gathered enough support from UN nations and no one can stop the admission of Republic of India as Permanent member of UNSC.

Erm yes they can, they just did.

"The text, which may continue to be debated, however, has a short effective life after three biggies —US, China and Russia — came out against it, making any negotiations little more than an academic exercise.
 
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http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...ur-unsc-permanent-seat-for-india_1949247.html

United Nations: India's bid for a permanent seat in a reformed UN Security Council has received a strong support from many UN member states, including the UK and France, who emphasised that the the world body's top organ must reflect the emergence of new global powers.

More than 50 speakers shared their suggestions, perspectives and concerns over reform of the 15-nation UNSC during a General Assembly session here last week.

"Many favoured bolstering representation for such emerging powers as Brazil, Germany, India and Japan. While some spotlighted the progress made in recent years through the intergovernmental negotiations on Security Council reform process, others voiced deep frustration that more had not yet been achieved," a summary of the November 7 meeting posted on the UN website said.

Among the large number of nations supporting a permanent seat for India and other emerging powers like Brazil and Germany were two veto-wielding permanent members of the Council, the United Kingdom and France.

UK's Permanent Representative to the UN Ambassador Matthew Rycroft said at the session that Britain believes in a modest expansion in the permanent and non-permanent categories is the approach that the UN member states should collectively pursue. The increase in membership should be such that it balances representation with effectiveness.

Rycroft reiterated his country's support for permanent seats for Brazil, Germany, India and Japan, alongside permanent African representation.
Referring to British Prime Minister Theresa May's visit to India last week, her first bilateral trip outside Europe since taking office, Rycroft said she discussed "that very issue with Prime Minister Narendra Modi."

"Our support is steadfast, and I look forward to working through all available avenues to reach the more representative and more effective Council that we seek," he said.

France's Deputy Permanent Representative Alexis Lamek said his country wished to see the Council reflect the emergence of new world powers, for which it supported the candidacies of Germany, Brazil, India and Japan and the increased representation of African countries in both the permanent and non-permanent membership.

The five permanent members should also refrain from using the veto in cases of mass atrocities, a commitment that France had already made, he said.

German ambassador to the UN Harald Braun, speaking on behalf of the G4 Group of Brazil, India, Japan and Germany, said Council reform was an urgent matter, saying the Council must be rendered fit-for-purpose in order to face the current global challenges of peace and security. He added that all regions must be adequately represented to ensure legitimacy and effectiveness.

During the session, India's Ambassador to the UN Syed Akbaruddin, in a stinging criticism of the Security Council, had said that the 15-nation body is "stuck in its own time warp and politics."

He had also lamented the "never-ending carousel of discussions" on UNSC reforms saying "it is time to break the impasse" to urgently reform the UN body that is "unresponsive" to the current global situation.

PTI

First Published: Sunday, November 13, 2016 - 11:27
 
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President of India, Shri Pranab Mukherjee on the occasion of inauguration of the India International Trade Fair 2016 (IITF 2016)

India is working with like-minded countries in multilateral organisations including the United Nations to play an enhanced role in diverse fora – from the Arctic Council and the Pacific Alliance to the UN Security Council where India has made a legitimate claim for a permanent membership.
 
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Interfax news
December 20, 2016
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India's wish to become permanent member in expanded UNSC justified - Kyrgyzstan
 
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Because we believe that India that represent 20% world's population deserves a seat there.

We gave up our seat to China because of Nehru so this time we will get the seat if not today than tomorrow.
This is the stupidest lie that stupid Indians keep spreading and believing it. By which u can peek their psyche and intelligence level. We got because we are on the winning side of ww2, be it ROC (Taiwan) or PRC(mainland), its China's seat, no matter which government represents China.

Your country is not even independent back then(1945), not mention fought against nazis or japs.

Is checking UN charter and a little bit research on history this hard?
 
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