US, allies pushing to place Pakistan on terror-financing watchlist: report

[SQ8]

@cocomo @Oscar @Khanate @LeGenD @Khan_21

Comment on Dawn...What do you say?

The real reason behind this is to make CPEC as unviable an option for Pakistan as possible. Because business with Pakistan will become so expensive that it would outweigh the benefit of cheaper transportation from China.

Money laundering and other reasons are just a front.. I don't buy that

It is CPEC and the need to encircle China.. but also to keep Pakistan from developing and embroiled in ethnic and religious strife.

 

[ARMalik]

What is chandu Ram? .... and by your writing style you sound like a high-headed egotist for sure.

Now debate is not on deep state but the level of interference and intimidation of the deep state in normal affairs of a state.

1. The difference between yours and others deep state is other deep states have a limit on interfering and people have freedom to agree/disagree with them...unlike yours.
2. Why is it only deep state is patriotic and not rest of institutions? Who has the authority to certify that? (Deep State itself?)
3. Regarding your ex army guys..read this...quite an old article but you'll have a background. (and for sure...You will deny/ridicule it)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2008/01/the-military-millionaires-who-control-pakistan-inc/

You are on a public forum not some literary club where you arse read 'writing styles'. By the way, from your writing style anyone can easily interpret that you are an "Indian" trying to find a way to Australia through the back water ways of NZ.

Now finally, you have no f*ing clue to what extent "Deep State" is involved in the affairs of a nation cause you are NOT from the "deep State", you have not SEEN or OBSERVED first hand the extent of involvement. You POST A LINK and write some unsubstantiated rubbish, and pretend as if you are SOME TOP SH.IT expert on 'Deep State'. All your posts on this matter are unsubstantiated and highly biased BS.

 

[Adonis]

You are on a public forum not some literary club where you arse read 'writing styles'. By the way, from your writing style anyone can easily interpret that you are an "Indian" trying to find a way to Australia through the back water ways of NZ.

Now finally, you have no f*ing clue to what extent "Deep State" is involved in the affairs of a nation cause you are NOT from the "deep State", you have not SEEN or OBSERVED first hand the extent of involvement. You POST A LINK and write some unsubstantiated rubbish, and pretend as if you are SOME TOP SH.IT expert on 'Deep State'. All your posts on this matter are unsubstantiated and highly biased BS.

With due respect, it was you Arse who read 'writing styles' first and ... so could you please read your previous post before blabbering.

Yes you will term me an Indian as I don't agree with Pakistan's deep state and it's army meddling in it's affairs, that too projecting itself as only messiah or savior of Pakistan . Otherwise, I am a person of Pak origin 3 generation back, born in NZ and working in Australia....And I have mentioned it many times before in my posts to creeps like you.

I never said I am an expert in deep state...With deep state I am referring to your "Establishment". The point I want to make is where Pakistan is today, your establishment is more responsible for it's plight than your civilian governments.....

 

[Khanate]

USA has also been financing the Pakistan people and Pakistan military for decades, what do you have to say to that?

I say bullshit to that.

India and Israel are the top receipt of U.S. economic assistance for the last 60 years. As for military assistance, Pakistan isn't even in the top 10. What little military assistance we did receive was during the Cold War when USSR was in Afghanistan.

Here's the historical data on U.S. economic assistance:

Note: India and Israel are the top receipt of U.S. economic assistance for the last 60 years

Here's the historical data on U.S. military assistance:

Note: Pakistan isn't even in the top 10

Source: Dawn

 

[Arsalan 345]

I just want to ask if india and America are humiliating us on every platform than what are we doing to counter it? There is not even any evidence against Hafiz saeed but they put him in us designated terrorist list.what is our govt doing? This is so shameful

 

[coffee_cup]

What is chandu Ram? .... and by your writing style you sound like a high-headed egotist for sure.

Now debate is not on deep state but the level of interference and intimidation of the deep state in normal affairs of a state.

1. The difference between yours and others deep state is other deep states have a limit on interfering and people have freedom to agree/disagree with them...unlike yours.
2. Why is it only deep state is patriotic and not rest of institutions? Who has the authority to certify that? (Deep State itself?)
3. Regarding your ex army guys..read this...quite an old article but you'll have a background. (and for sure...You will deny/ridicule it)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2008/01/the-military-millionaires-who-control-pakistan-inc/

Chandu bhahi, give it up already.

Our country our rules. Go shed your crocodile tears somewhere else.

You better spend your energies on helping hundreds of million people living in miserable conditions in your origin country India.

Meanwhile some ultra rich people in your country are dictating the way your govt should work and I am telling you, it is not going in the right direction with all the hindu extremism reaching alarming levels.

I say bullshit to that.

India and Israel are the top receipt of U.S. economic assistance for the last 60 years. As for military assistance, Pakistan isn't even in the top 10. What little military assistance we did receive was during the Cold War when USSR was in Afghanistan.

Here's the historical data on U.S. economic assistance:

Note: India and Israel are the top receipt of U.S. economic assistance for the last 60 years

Here's the historical data on U.S. military assistance:

Note: Pakistan isn't even in the top 10

Source: Dawn

Oh, so India is the largest rerecipient of aid for more than half century? I was not expecting this.

 

[Khanate]

The difference between yours and others deep state is other deep states have a limit on interfering and people have freedom to agree/disagree with them...unlike yours.

Like Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. Oh wait, both were assassinated.

2. Why is it only deep state is patriotic and not rest of institutions? Who has the authority to certify that? (Deep State itself?)

Raison d'État, or national interests, of a state becomes evident when institutions, civil or military, build concensus and walk in lockstep, e.g., CPEC and Pakistan's growing military ties with China.

Regarding your ex army guys..read this...quite an old article but you'll have a background.

Read it.

Review: Boring.

(and for sure...You will deny/ridicule it)

Given your earlier stance:

people have freedom to agree/disagree​

One expects you will respect the "freedom to agree/disagree". Alas, thats not the case.

 

[ProphetX]

I say bullshit to that.

India and Israel are the top receipt of U.S. economic assistance for the last 60 years. As for military assistance, Pakistan isn't even in the top 10. What little military assistance we did receive was during the Cold War when USSR was in Afghanistan.

Here's the historical data on U.S. economic assistance:

Note: India and Israel are the top receipt of U.S. economic assistance for the last 60 years

Here's the historical data on U.S. military assistance:

Note: Pakistan isn't even in the top 10

Source: Dawn

Well an Indian or Israeli did not accuse USA of funding terrorists now did they?

 

[T-Rex]

I just want to ask if india and America are humiliating us on every platform than what are we doing to counter it? There is not even any evidence against Hafiz saeed but they put him in us designated terrorist list.what is our govt doing? This is so shameful

Whatever they say is 'solid evidence' on the other hand, if you apprehend the likes of Yadev with a smoking gun they'll call that mere accusations. This is the game and it is the task of the US dogs in the Pakistani government to convince Pakistan to accept this situation.

 

[Bashido]

ISLAMABAD: While the United States has put forward a motion to place Pakistan on a global terrorist-financing watchlist with Financial Action Task Force (FATF), the Pakistan government has started working with several member states in a bid to get the nomination withdrawn, a senior Pakistani official has confirmed.

Pakistan has been scrambling in recent months to avert being added to a list of countries deemed non-compliant with terrorist financing regulations by the FATF, a measure officials fear can hurt its economy.

A meeting of FATF member states is due to take place next week in Paris, where the organisation could adopt the motion on Pakistan.

Pakistan’s de facto finance minister, Miftah Ismail, told Reuters that the US and Britain had put forward the motion several weeks ago, and later persuaded France and Germany to co-sponsor it.

Islamabad hopes the nomination will be withdrawn as Paris meeting draws near

“We are now working with the US, the UK, Germany and France for the nomination to be withdrawn,” said Mr Ismail while speaking over phone from Europe. “We are also quite hopeful that even if the US does not withdraw the nomination, we will prevail and not be put on the watchlist.”

Pakistan was previously on the FATF watchlist from 2012 to 2015.The FATF, an intergovernmental body based in Paris that sets global standards for fighting illicit finance, had previously warned Islamabad it could be put back on the list without further efforts to crack down on the flow of funds to militants.

Pakistani officials and Western diplomats say being put on the FATF watchlist could deal a blow to Pakistan’s economy, making it harder for foreign investors and companies to do business in the country.

“If you’re put on a terror watchlist, you’re made to go through all the (extra) scrutiny,” former chief of the National Counter Terrorism Authority of Pakistan, Khawaja Khalid Farooq, told Reuters. “It can hurt the economy very badly.”

Officials also fear it would be harder and more expensive for Pakistan to borrow money from the international debt markets if it is put on the FATF monitoring list. Pakistan raised $2.5 billion at lower-than-expected rates in December.

Mr Ismail said the FATF motion focused on Hafiz Saeed, who was blamed by India for masterminding the 2008 Mumbai attacks. The move indicated the US had put forward the motion at India’s behest, he said.

However, a spokesperson from the US embassy in Islamabad said: “The US has consistently expressed our longstanding concern about ongoing deficiencies in Pakistan’s implementation of its anti-money laundering and counterterrorism finance regime.”

The US was “absolutely not” acting on behalf of India in pressing Pakistan on the issue, the spokesperson said.

“In addition to broader systemic concerns, this also concerns Pakistan’s non-compliance with its commitments under the UN Security Council Resolution 1267,” the spokesperson added.

Resolution 1267 requires all states to freeze the assets of people and organisations on a list established by the resolution, including Hafiz Saeed and his charities.

Saeed has repeatedly denied his involvement in the Mumbai attacks and says the charitable organisations he founded and controls had no ties with militants.

On Monday, Pakistan announced it had amended its anti-terrorism law to ban militant groups and organisations that are listed as “terrorists” by the United Nations, a move seen to be targeting those charities.

In December, Pakistan’s government drew up plans to seize control of Saeed’s Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) and the Falah-e-Insaniat Foundation charities.

Published in Dawn, February 14th, 2018

PS: I would like to ask Hafiz Saeed and other band illegals are more important than Pakistan to GHQ?

 

[Imran Khan]

USA finance Pakistan >Pakistan finance terror= USA finance terror

 

[IceCold]

What is Britian's problem with Pakistan or do they just like to suck up to their US daddies? Shame on them for following a tyrant.
Now is the time for Pakistan to tell these countries that if Pakistan is being put on this list it will have repercussions specially w.r.t Afghanistan and US and NATO supply going through Pakistan.
Bully cannot be met with weakness, it can only be thwarted with force.

 

[New World]

The FATF, an intergovernmental body based in Paris that sets global standards for fighting illicit finance

can anyone explain how this fatf works?

 

[Path-Finder]

Pressure tactics in which people from Pakistan's 'badmashia' are involved!!

 

[Aramagedon]