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US AH-64D wins Indian Attack Chopper Deal , Mi-28N Looses: RIAN

didn't all indians claiming that their tiny LCH has same carrying load as AH-64, despite its small size and light blah bla..what happen? why buy these expensive beasts with same capability? lol
i always know the specs on brochure is just propaganda, just like everything else..those numbers just don't add up. :lol:

Apache is for Air force.

LCH and Apache both can be inducted fast and packs double the punch in a short time due production advantages.
 
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your excuse sounds like you still believe that both are in the same class. huh..how delusional!:lol:
 
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There is more to an attack helicopter than "carrying" capability.
 
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American economy is looking for boost and India is complying with POTUS after strained US-Pak relations which favour India anyway. US on the other hand has, in a quid pro quo manner complied and increased the H1B quota for Indians up 24%. Hence the Russians were bypassed on political grounds.
 
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Not surprising. Good decision though.

The apache are more or less meant to fulfill some specific sniping purposes in Air to ground warfare...


Other than that, this heli will be a nice technology demonstrator, for our ever
learning n improving defense forces.

For a large country like India, it should have a lot more. CAS is important.
 
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Faster, Meaner Apaches Allow Pilots to Control Drones in Battle​


November 02, 2011
Stars and Stripes|by Seth Robson


YOKOTA AIR BASE, Japan -- Crews piloting the latest version of the Army’s Apache attack helicopter will be able to fly faster and higher, all while controlling unmanned aircraft during battles, according to Army officials.


The first of nearly 700 new or upgraded AH-64D Longbow Apache Block III helicopters that the Army is acquiring under a near $700 million deal with Boeing are set to roll off a production line on Wednesday, according to Sofia Bledsoe, a public affairs officer with Program Executive Office Aviation.

“Upgrades to the aircraft include a more powerful engine and drive train, composite rotor blades that provide more lift… (and) Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) control, which means the pilot can now control the flight path, weapons systems and sensors on a [drone],” Bledsoe said in an email.


The Apache will be the first aircraft where the pilots will be able to control drones, according to Lt. Col. Dan Bailey, an Apache pilot who is the Army’s project manager for the new attack helicopter.

“It’s going to make a significant difference on the battlefield,” Bailey said.
Crews flying the older Apaches often communicate with drone operators by radio during missions, said Bailey, who flew Apace missions in Iraq from 2006 to 2007.

“A [drone] operator would talk us through what he was seeing, such as a building where insurgents were shooting from,” he said, “but a picture is worth 1,000 words.”

Crews in the new Apaches will be able to see the same video that a drone operator sees on their screens. They will even be able to take control of a drone to fly it to way points and zoom its cameras and sensors in on targets, he said.
“We can use the [drone] as a remote sensor to identify hostiles,” he said. “That [drone] is now part of our Apache but it is forward where we might not want to be. I think it is going to be a huge game changer for the Army.”

The new Apache will be able to operate at 6,000 feet carrying a full mission payload with a combat speed of 164 knots -- 20 knots faster than the Army’s current fleet of attack helicopters, Bledsoe said.

According to Bailey, the “Block III” -- which will include some completely new helicopters and hundreds more that incorporate components from the current Apache fleet -- is the third evolution for the aircraft, which was first fielded in the mid-1980s.

The new drive system, returns the aircraft’s performance to what it was in its early days, before the Army loaded it with 3,000 to 4,000 extra pounds of high-tech equipment, he said.
“There are places in Afghanistan that the [current] aircraft can’t fly,” Bailey said. “With the upgrades, we will be able to go to those places where the enemy tends to hide from us.”


Faster, Meaner Apaches Allow Pilots to Control Drones in Battle


It is the same we are getting block-3D:tup:
 
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your excuse sounds like you still believe that both are in the same class. huh..how delusional!:lol:

coming from a country that cant even make a 2 seater flying bug

Why do you think IAF has ordered only 22 Apaches , while IA and IAF will induct 179 LCH
Its becoz Apache are being inducted as a stop gap , till LCH enters production
 
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Not surprising. Good decision though.



For a large country like India, it should have a lot more. CAS is important.

I am sure you have heard of LCH
Apache are meant as stopgap till LCH enters production
Hence 22 Apaches were initially ordered with option for 22 more, incase there is some delay with LCH
Currently LCH is suposed to enter service in 2016 with Limited series production beginning in 2014 , IA and IAF have ordered 179 LCH in total
 
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