Update of FATF Meeting: Outcomes FATF Plenary, 21-23 February 2018

[shootingstar]

Who gives a crap? Pakistan is going on to the FATF and all we're thinking about is waaaaah we beat the west. Pathetic mentality. But not surprising considering the state of affairs in the country.

FATF is just a propaganda tool. There would be zero impact on the ground for Pakistan.

 

[Enigma_]

FATF is just a propaganda tool. There would be zero impact on the ground for Pakistan.

Yeah yeah I keep on hearing it. It hurts public image and there will be impact on the ground. But we should keep on digging ourselves to a deeper hole as we do always.

 

[PradoTLC]

Outcomes FATF Plenary, 21-23 February 2018

Paris, 23 February 2018, the second FATF Plenary meeting under the Presidency of Mr. Santiago Otamendi of Argentina took place in Paris 21-23 February 2018. The main issues dealt with by this Plenary were:


Combating terrorist financing, including the adoption of a new counter-terrorist financing operational plan and a statement on the actions taken under the 2016 counter-terrorist financing strategy.

Adoption of a report to the G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors.
Updated FATF Guidance on Counter Proliferation Financing.
Amendments to Recommendation 2 on national cooperation and coordination.
Discussion of the mutual evaluation report of Iceland.
Follow-up reports for the mutual evaluations of Spain and Norway where both countries sought technical compliance re-ratings.
Brazil’s progress in addressing the deficiencies identified in its mutual evaluation report since it agreed an action plan in November 2017.
Two public documents identifying jurisdictions that may pose a risk to the international financial system:
Jurisdictions with strategic anti-money laundering and countering the financing of terrorism (AML/CFT) deficiencies for which a call for action applies.
Jurisdictions with strategic AML/CFT deficiencies for which they have developed an action plan with the FATF.
Monitoring Iran’s actions to address deficiencies in its AML/CFT system.
AML/CFT improvements in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Revisions on information sharing to the FATF Methodology.
Update on recent developments on de-risking
Improving the understanding of virtual currencies risks.
Update on FinTech & RegTech Initiatives.
Improving the effectiveness of the Criminal Justice System: FATF global engagement with judges and prosecutors.
Outcomes of the meeting of the FATF Forum of Heads of Financial Intelligence Units (FIUs), which was held in the margins of the Plenary.
Strengthening FATF’s institutional basis.
Activities of the FATF Training and Research Institute in Busan, Korea.

http://www.fatf-gafi.org/publications/fatfgeneral/documents/outcomes-plenary-february-2018.html

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i checked their FATP website.. and the official briefing... indians were lying as usual...

Pakistan is no where on the list.

 

[shootingstar]

Yeah yeah I keep on hearing it. It hurts public image and there will be impact on the ground. But we should keep on digging ourselves to a deeper hole as we do always.

You are just being paranoid. Pakistan is clearly in the driving seat.

 

[Ocean]

Who gives a crap? Pakistan is going on to the FATF and all we're thinking about is waaaaah we beat the west. Pathetic mentality. But not surprising considering the state of affairs in the country.

Dude whats wrong have u read the news. They are saying they will put pakistan in grey list in june. IN JUNE NOT NOW. And again voting will be held.

Plus faft means jack if after so many sacrifices and collaboration with usa they are after us they we cant worry about any freaking image before the world or a stupid two bit org. So stop isnukti ur own country over these stupid terror watch lists

 

[Enigma_]

Dude whats wrong have u read the news. They are saying they will put pakistan in grey list in june. IN JUNE NOT NOW. And again voting will be held.

Plus faft means jack if after so many sacrifices and collaboration with usa they are after us they we cant worry about any freaking image before the world or a stupid two bit org. So stop isnukti ur own country over these stupid terror watch lists

Yes but the grey list is an inevitability since even a report submission will mean a listing. Theek ha, but when the entire panel barring 1 country votes in favour of Pak then it is a cause of concern. Still, it seems like the Pak establishment agrees with your view anyway. We'll see how this goes but I am going to hedge my bets on not well for Pak.

 

[Mr ambassador]

India will do everything to hurt Pakistan when it comes to terror. I think now world expect Pakistan to come clean and India will do everything to increase pressure, the day Pakistan comes clean, India's major head ache is removed.
All the best Pakistan, hope you understand voilence begets voilence.
Ahimso parmo Dharmaha.

violence is not cure of headache . Your head is filled with hate .




dialogue is a solution . Try to be civilized neighbor .

 

[Ocean]

Yes but the grey list is an inevitability since even a report submission will mean a listing. Theek ha, but when the entire panel barring 1 country votes in favour of Pak then it is a cause of concern. Still, it seems like the Pak establishment agrees with your view anyway. We'll see how this goes but I am going to hedge my bets on not well for Pak.

Umm ididnt get the line that "when the entire panel barring 1 country votes in favour of Pak then it is a cause of concern"
Favor if pakistan? Isnt favor a good thing? Or u meant to say opposite and can u share link to the news.

See we had been on faft even betore it was hyped up to make it look like humiliation which usa n india failed atm. And plus nawaz himself wants such chaos on pakistan so his ministers didnt engage in active diplomacy they made a joke of us on purpose.

Lastly, i cant sit n care about these random orgs when pakistan has given so many sacrifices for this shytty wot ans what usa wants is a syria iraq libya style destruction of pakistan for which she has been looking for excuses to paint pakistan as terror state.

 

[Enigma_]

Umm ididnt get the line that "when the entire panel barring 1 country votes in favour of Pak then it is a cause of concern"
Favor if pakistan? Isnt favor a good thing? Or u meant to say opposite and can u share link to the news.

See we had been on faft even betore it was hyped up to make it look like humiliation which usa n india failed atm. And plus nawaz himself wants such chaos on pakistan so his ministers didnt engage in active diplomacy they made a joke of us on purpose.

Lastly, i cant sit n care about these random orgs when pakistan has given so many sacrifices for this shytty wot ans what usa wants is a syria iraq libya style destruction of pakistan for which she has been looking for excuses to paint pakistan as terror state.

Typo. It was meant to be barring 1 country (Turkey) all voted against (including China and KSA) - and there's a PT source in the previous page and many other authentic sources online that also confirm this.

But it isn't humiliating to you? I mean it should be humiliating even without the hype? Is the country really that desperate to become a pariah in front of the world??? Everyone is moving forward whilst we are hellbent on moving backwards. The only one that is turning Pak into a state like Syria, Iraq and such are Pakistanis themselves. We got the gift of nuclear weapons in an unlikely world and instead of progressing we have decided to regress. These are just my viewpoints.

 

[chander_011]

So finally it is decided that Pakistan will be put on grey list in June as China refused to help Pakistan. Is this real or still any confusion about China's role in fatf?

 

[Ocean]

Typo. It was meant to be barring 1 country (Turkey) all voted against (including China and KSA) - and there's a PT source in the previous page and many other authentic sources online that also confirm this.

But it isn't humiliating to you? I mean it should be humiliating even without the hype? Is the country really that desperate to become a pariah in front of the world??? Everyone is moving forward whilst we are hellbent on moving backwards. The only one that is turning Pak into a state like Syria, Iraq and such are Pakistanis themselves. We got the gift of nuclear weapons in an unlikely world and instead of progressing we have decided to regress. These are just my viewpoints.

No its not humiliating for me cause usa is the same country which cooked up a wmd excuse to invade iraq and even blamed Pakistan for making isis lmao

As of ur pakistan today source firstky pakistan today isn't a reputed source, secondly whatw as shared there was a viewpoint and a highly biased one plus it was poor journalism , have u read it urself?

You are saying except turkey other friends like china saudia voted against us the guy in the article writes this bull
"Second, the fact that Pakistan’s so-called close allies, particularly China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey actually negotiated terms with opposing lobbying states for their own gains and benefits to give up their support for Pakistan, shows that in politics there are no permanent enemies or friends, only permanent interests. It’s nothing less than a sheer humiliation for Pakistan that China and Saudi Arabia were playing Pakistan’s card to garner their own international diplomatic support base."

Firstly he calls turkey as so called support and blames for negotiating their gains in giving up support for pakistan then he only blames saudia and china then he gives no source to this info he seems to be pulling put of his arse. It has been clearly discussed in prev pages of this thread that what went in meeting hasnt been disclosed.

Plus he says turkey ,saudia china all agreed on some terms ot give up support for pakistan and put it back on terror list.

Man does it make sense? Paksitan is NO LONGER on this list and until june we arent so how on earth turkey and chian and saudia agreed to put us back on that list? Do ypu see teh CONTRADICTION in this incoherent garbage written by this guy?

I Would rather tell u to read this even tho idont like dawn but here its a better coverage

https://www.dawn.com/news/1391200

 

[Vanamali]

violence is not cure of headache . Your head is filled with hate .




dialogue is a solution . Try to be civilized neighbor .

Do you think I hate Pakistan, sorry bro I don't waste my emotional capital to these type of things. First leave 1000 cut policy towards India, then everything will fall into place.

 

[Enigma_]

No its not humiliating for me cause usa is the same country which cooked up a wmd excuse to invade iraq and even blamed Pakistan for making isis lmao

As of ur pakistan today source firstky pakistan today isn't a reputed source, secondly whatw as shared there was a viewpoint and a highly biased one plus it was poor journalism , have u read it urself?

You are saying except turkey other friends like china saudia voted against us the guy in the article writes this bull
"Second, the fact that Pakistan’s so-called close allies, particularly China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey actually negotiated terms with opposing lobbying states for their own gains and benefits to give up their support for Pakistan, shows that in politics there are no permanent enemies or friends, only permanent interests. It’s nothing less than a sheer humiliation for Pakistan that China and Saudi Arabia were playing Pakistan’s card to garner their own international diplomatic support base."

Firstly he calls turkey as so called support and blames for negotiating their gains in giving up support for pakistan then he only blames saudia and china then he gives no source to this info he seems to be pulling put of his arse. It has been clearly discussed in prev pages of this thread that what went in meeting hasnt been disclosed.

Plus he says turkey ,saudia china all agreed on some terms ot give up support for pakistan and put it back on terror list.

Man does it make sense? Paksitan is NO LONGER on this list and until june we arent so how on earth turkey and chian and saudia agreed to put us back on that list? Do ypu see teh CONTRADICTION in this incoherent garbage written by this guy?

I Would rather tell u to read this even tho idont like dawn but here its a better coverage

https://www.dawn.com/news/1391200

Well it seems like you consider dawn a reputable source then here's the latest article on the outcome.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1391548/the-great-fatf-fumble

 

[sameerin]

https://twitter.com/x/status/967659024744439814

 

[chander_011]

https://twitter.com/x/status/967659024744439814

So this is the reason of China ditching Pakistan at Fatf. Now Pakistani friends should understand that their is no real friend in International arena but only own country's interests that matters.