Upcoming war on Iran and Pakistan.

[Mrc]

Yes it can ,,,,,, But I am strictly talking about Pakistan ……


Check post #39 what do you think about Middle Ground option?

We can place troops in saudia... We must take our own airforce with them...

Works for me

 

[Baghial]

War on Iran is imminent and Pakistan have no power / right to stop US and Arab allies.
So what should be our stance?
Options:
1- We should go with Iran.
2- We Should stay neutral.
3- We should help US and Arab allies.

1- We should go with Iran.

If we help Iran and fight with them against US and Arab allies then our destruction is imminent despite we are nuclear and our destruction can't save Iran.
And why we help them since they are inviting war on themselves, crazy Mullahs are doing exactly what US wants so that they can start war on Iran to further safeguard Israel but on the expense of our Arab brothers.

So no we should not help Iran neither we can.

2- We Should stay neutral.

This will also not in our favor as well, our neutral stance can't help Iran any way because of their own regime they decided their own faith but if we not help US and Arab alliance they would go towards India and it will hurt our emotions and economy as well.
And Iran will remain Iran and after the war they may put blame on us for their destruction by not helping.
Iran will become weak and for sure US wants to cut it so US / CIA may help separatist to form a separate land including Baluchistan and our Arab brothers will not help us at that time.

3- We should help US and Arab allies.

And yes destruction of Iranian regime is imminent and we should help Iranian people to get liberated from years of slavery of Mullahs and to help our Arab brothers.

We should use our forces as well to complete the regime change and at full scale under the umbrella of alliance we can finish the leaches funded by R&AW forever and may our Arab brothers help us to build this part of Pakistan.

What we will gain...
Confidence of world powers, more close and brotherly relations with Arab countries and this will help our economy and negate the influence of India in GCC states.


I let you people to debate on these points.

@Khafee @Indus Pakistan @MastanKhan @Irfan Baloch @Tps43

WE SHOULD BOMB USA- TO HELL

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

They are doing biddat ...... R U Shia?


We will not get anything other than hate from Arabs and from Iran as well.

Hate from arabs and iranians and usa is far better than hate from our own citizens and hate from the Creator of this universe. Let them hate atleast we will not be the killers. We will have peace at heart and our actions clean.

 

[Shane]

Stay neutral
Dont take sides
Offer mediation for all its worth
Involve Russia and China ad this war affects them too
Where is OIC? Call a meeting request restraint to saudis and Iranians

Failing all that
Prepare for fall out
Watch out for indians taking advantage of chaos
Seal borders but help displaced people where possible

Daesh will be biggest benefactor and will use the chaos to launch attacks on Pakistan at TTP level of mid 2000s

Prepare for America next target being us
Dont expect beyond lip service from Arab brothers they maybe busy hugging Modi making trillion dollar deals
It will a hell .. unstable iran and Afghanistan with renewed terror in Baluchistan and KPK
TTP will use chaos due to over stretched Pakistan army

Indian will stage a false flag and bring their forces on the eastern borders
specially whenever it will see that Pakistani forces are somehow bringing control and writ of state back

So be on your guard
God help you if you feel smug right now over Americans planning to destroy another country

We can choose to do what we did against our allies, the Taliban Government during Musharraf era, side with the US while it completely destroyed an already devastated Afghanistan.

Ironically, Iran, for the better part of a couple of initial years, choose to side with the US too during the hight of war and devastation in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban post 9/11.

Iran and Pakistan along with the USA, Arabs , Ruskies, delusional Indians and other nations have a long history of meddling in Afghanistan. The idea of destruction of another country never stopped any country from taking advantage of the situation before so why should it be any different now.

I'm just saying that the track record of both Iran and Pakistan shows that we do indeed look after our own interests.

Therefore, Pakistan should do what suits it's own interests the best. If it means siding with the Arabs or USA then so be it. It's nothing personal. Every other country does the same so why should we be any different. Period.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

sorry to say but your post and your signature are 180 degree opposite to each other.

Why? Defend Muslims. Work. Make halal money. What is so wrong with that?

 

[CHACHA"G"]

We can choose to do what we did against our allies, the Taliban Government during Musharraf era, side with the US while it completely destroyed an already devastated Afghanistan.

Ironically, Iran, for the better part of a couple of initial years, choose to side with the US too during the hight of war and devastation in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban post 9/11.

Iran and Pakistan along with the USA, Arabs , Ruskies, delusional Indians and other nations have a long history of meddling in Afghanistan. The idea of destruction of another country never stopped any country from taking advantage of the situation before so why should it be any different now.

I'm just saying that the track record of both Iran and Pakistan shows that we do indeed look after our own interests.

Therefore, Pakistan should do what suits it's own interests the best. If it means siding with the Arabs or USA then so be it. It's nothing personal. Every other country does the same so why should we be any different. Period.

I don't agree with him on many topics but just listen to this clip …… These 13 minutes will explain almost every thing.. @Irfan Baloch , @Mrc , @Markhoor , @war&peace @Retired Troll , @zulu

 

[Crystal-Clear]

seal the border stay neutral .

 

[war&peace]

I don't agree with him on many topics but just listen to this clip …… These 13 minutes will explain almost every thing.. @Irfan Baloch , @Mrc , @Markhoor , @war&peace @Retired Troll , @zulu

I find him right most of the time.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

No country can have prosperity while their neighbors burn in fire and ashes

• Pakistan's National Interest lies in fact , war in our border's proximity is not welcomed
• Our interest lies in Doing annual 5-10 Billion Trade , in Live Stock Sale with Iran (Cow, Goat , Chicken , Camel , Sheep sale)
• Our interest lies in getting discounted gas and oil from Iran
• Tourism Trade with Iran should be one of our top agendas

The stance of neutrality , has no purpose , because we have experienced massive losses under this neutrality act when Afghanistan war happened back in 70's and later again in 2005-2015 period

The action of neutrality only provides a temporary sense of knowledge that you have been spared the destruction and chaos , however in reality every nation who believes in this mantra eventually will face war , perhaps not in 4-5 years but eventually



Lets look at the issue pragmatically


Afghanistan (70's War , War again 2003-Present)
Iran (Spared Till Now, only sanctions)
Iraq (War in 80's , War in 90's , Sanctions , War again 2005-Present)
Syria (War 2013-Present)
Saudi Arabia (War with Iraq, War with Yamen )
Qatar (Bad ties with Saudia for last 2-3 years)
Kuwait (Kuwait-Iraq war massive destruction)
Bahrain (Too small to show up on radar)
Yamen (Saudi - Yamani war over oil land Saudi stole from Yamani)
Turkey (Syrian War affected Turkish Economy 4 years, Terrorism in Turkey)
Pakistan (Afghan war affected Pakistan Economy 40 years)
Egypt (Spared, being propped up against Turkey)
Libya (Civil war destroyed , oil split up)
Tunisia None factor
Algeria (Faced massive civil war in Past)
Morocco Spared
Malaysia Spared
Indonesia Spared
Palestine Occupied
Lebanon (Faced massive civil war)



Our policy should be

"I don't want war inflicted upon me, nor I want war on my neighbor"


It's a very simple! Stance


Our neighbor Iran has population size 100-120 Million people , and that is a massive population and any war would cause at least 20-25 Million migrants to flood into Pakistan
It would be a massive humanitarian crisis

I oppose any war on Iran 100%


Any regional issue between Arab (Just Saudi Arabia, and Iran) should be discussed on discussion table, not involving outsiders

 

[war&peace]

WE SHOULD BOMB USA- TO HELL

very funny and how do you do that?

 

[Baghial]

very funny and how do you do that?

By not farting in your own house..thats how...

 

[war&peace]

By not farting in your own house..thats how...

Do you know the distance between USA and Pakistan. And why should we get involved for Iran?

 

[Baghial]

Do you know the distance between USA and Pakistan. And why should we get involved for Iran?

Do u know the distance between earth n heaven?.. first get ur direction right....then ur distance does not matter...

 

[war&peace]

Do u know the distance between earth n heaven?.. first get ur direction right....then ur distance does not matter...

Idiot mullah slave... Pakistan has nothing to do with it. We will remain neutral and remember, Iran is strategic partner of India and involved in terrorism inside Pakistan and your mullah's IRGC has been training and sending terrorists in Pakistan...so if we remain neutral, Irani mullah should consider themselves lucky and those ingrates should be thankful to Pakistan otherwise we can decide in our national interest.

 

[Shane]

WE SHOULD BOMB USA- TO HELL

Why should we do that when we can help USA topple another Mullah Regime like Iran and Pakistan helped USA topple Taliban government.