UPA's West Asia policy hostage to ‘Muslim vote' :WIKI

[GORKHALI]

Though not exactly charity the timing was very crucial and when the EU refused help in satellite images and Russia itself was still recovering from the crisis, it was Israel that came up with the much needed satellite imageries from the Ofeq satellites and provided the LGB conversion kits on emergency basis that played a stellar role in the kargil war.

And there is nothing charity in the Arab countries 'allowing' our citizens to be there - the Arabs cant bend their backs themselves and I better not say the discrimination and the racist attitude they have towards us South Asians. This is based on my first hand experience in Kuwait and Bahrain.




Agreed, but article says that the Policy is not just 'mindful' of the sentiments of Indian Muslims, but altogether a hostage to it. Now there is a difference in that.



I cant agree with this, atleast partially - the Palestinians are equally culpable in this crime and blaming either side alone like the Muslims world blames Israel or the Westerners balme Palestinians doesnt do justice to either of them.

And with the stated policy of many Muslim nations being destruction of Israel it is but natural for Israel to respond with a mix of paranoia and rage.



I also dont agree with this blind sucking upto Israel. Though their help was of utmost importance to India during that war, it was ultimately the good old infantry and the artillery that saved our a$$. And just because of that help we must not surrender ourselves to Israel. Wake up Israel needs us as much as we need them.

This should be a relationship based in trust and mutual benefit and not some blind brotherhood as you seem to suggest.



Nagaland, Manipur ?? When did Indians invade Manipur, push out the Manipuris claiming its our 'promised land' ?, Lol def.pk is getting to you.

i never raised any question about brotherhood and phoren policy based on -you scratch my back ,i do yours.

Am saying in the context of manipuris ,who thinks Indian army is occupational force . do you need a recent developing story link here ?

 

[KS]

I just find it funny that some Indians would take the words of what an American diplomat who clearly shows contempt for Indian democracy as gospel.

In this particular case the words of David Mulford were clearly hinting Diggy Singh's pointed reference to Right wing groups being behind the murder of Late.Hemant Karkare and I do believe there is some merit in his assertion.

Really, the only reason why India would maintain a balanced position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is ONLY because of the Muslim vote? The GCC as a political block is the single biggest entitiy in terms of trade with over a $100B in trade per annum. And UAE and Saudi Arabia are in the top 5 trade partners. 80% of energy supplies come through the West Asia region.

Agreed.

Iran policy was taken forward by the BJP govt. under Vajpayee and even though Israel was compleately opposed to it. There was a security co-opearation pact signed as well as upgrades done to submarines as well as military exercises. Vajpayee vetoed the sending of Indian troops in Iraq and invited Saddam Hussain to India as well as passed a resolution in parliament condeming the invasion of Iraq. Was that on the basis of muslim vote too?

I dont believe this, Iran upgrading our submarines. Any link ?

The veto of troops to Iraq was more to do with India's logistic inability to support such huge number of troops on far-off places and support to Saddam was based on Saddam's unstinting support to India on the Kashmir issue inside OIC and elsewhere. Nothing to do with Muslim vote and btw how many Muslims vote for BJP in the first place. ?

 

[KS]

Am saying in the context of manipuris ,who thinks Indian army is occupational force . do you need a recent developing story link here ?

What individuals think will not justify their position unless it is supported by facts.

And facts say that India did not do 1% of what Israel does in the Middle East and so the analogy is ridiculous.

Please save me the War widows news or news about Irom Sharmila.There are widows on both sides.

 

[desioptimist]

This leak seems not so accurate as foreign policy is among few things where GoI seeks consensus. You wont see NDA changing the policy of UPA govt and vice versa.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

This is REALPOLITIK at work. Let the US look after their own interests. India will look after her own. That is Statecraft.

 

[Kinetic]

I just find it funny that some Indians would take the words of what an American diplomat who clearly shows contempt for Indian democracy as gospel.

Who gives damn what US ambassador says. But this is well known fact.

Over all we should praise our West Asia policy regarding Israel, Palestine, Arab states/GCC and Iran. But Congress always keeps religious votes in mind and does some cheap shots.

 

[Lala_Peace]

Who gives damn what US ambassador says. But this is well known fact.

Over all we should praise our West Asia policy regarding Israel, Palestine, Arab states/GCC and Iran. But Congress always keeps religious votes in mind and does some cheap shots.

So also BJP. It can reap bigger benefit in a situation where Congress only talks about Muslims.

If they fail to reap the benefit, then remove top leadership from BJP and you take over,

 

[indianpatriot]

LOOK ITS SIMPLE!!!

INDIA SUPPORTS PALESTINE OVER ISRAEL BUT IT ESTABLISHED TIES WITH LATTER FOR ITS PHYSICAL INTERESTS.

INDIA SUPPORTS DEOCRATIC EGYPT OVER MUBARAK.

INDIA SUPPORTS A DEMOCRATIC PAKISTAN OVER MILITARY.

INDIA SUPPORTS RUSSIA OVER EU & US.

INDIA IS NEUTRAL OVER KOREAN CRISIS.

INDIA IS NEUTRAL OVER LATIN AMERICA.

INDIA SUPPORTS IRAN OVER SAUDI.

INDIA SUPPORTS TIBET OVER CHINA.

INDIA IS ACTIVELY NEUTRAL ON LANKAN CRISIS.

 

[perplexed]

The bottom line is everyone toes the domestic line. That is what obama is now doing. (blocking ppl from india to move in to america). see what laws UK has promulgated !

Whats the shame in having double standards ? Atleast such talk doesn't sounds good from an american diplomat !

All in all they are frustrated since INDIA is not toeing their line. enuff said !!

 

[Bang Galore]

.. if israeli is occupational force so is indian army,didn't we occupied lands of kashmiris ,nagalands,manipuris etc .?? You can't be double mouth in international arena..

Actually, there is no comparison. India claims these areas & people as part of our country & gives them the same right as any other citizen. Israel does no such thing. It certainly won't accept Palestinians as Israelis & won't treat them as equals. The settlements in West bank are claimed in the name of "God". That is simply mad regardless of which religion's followers the nuts are! Israelis have made (& rightly so) much about the Holocaust and the suffering Jews went through, it's sad that they don't think much about committing atrocities on the Palestinians

I cant agree with this, atleast partially - the Palestinians are equally culpable in this crime and blaming either side alone like the Muslims world blames Israel or the Westerners balme Palestinians doesnt do justice to either of them.
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Culpable how Karthic? The Palestinians have no country, no hope & when they wake up one morning, no home either! No one is talking about right of return to Israel these days, its about having a Palestinian country in West Bank & Gaza & sharing Jerusalem with the Israelis. if Israel agreed to that & the Palestinians still continued their assaults, then I would agree with you. Destroying a People without holding out any hope is what the Israelis are doing & there is no equivalence; moral or otherwise between the actions of the Israelis & the Palestinians.

 

[KS]

Culpable how Karthic? The Palestinians have no country, no hope & when they wake up one morning, no home either! No one is talking about right of return to Israel these days, its about having a Palestinian country in West Bank & Gaza & sharing Jerusalem with the Israelis. if Israel agreed to that & the Palestinians still continued their assaults, then I would agree with you. Destroying a People without holding out any hope is what the Israelis are doing & there is no equivalence; moral or otherwise between the actions of the Israelis & the Palestinians.

When there are news about Palestinians celebrating the cruel killing of five persons including three children by distributing sweets and when Hamas launches its Grad rocket into the civilian areas of Israel what are they thinking ?? That Israel will withdraw ?

And immediately after the killing, the Israeli Govt authorised new settlements that were on hold/freeze till then.

Now tell me are not the Palestinians shooting themselves in the foot. ? And they have also become (allowed themselves to become ) pawns in the greater power game between various power centres in the Middle East like Turkey,Israel,Iran,Syria who seek to utilise the Palestinians to further their position.

I am saying that neither side is as angelic as their supporters make them out to be. Both have their share of crimes.

 

[misterme2]

Thank God we are not USA. We have the second largest Muslim population in the world. Our foreign policy will reflect our interest.


Even our rightist parties sacrifice their agenda to cling on to power.

We don't recite religious chants in parliament and when one religious chant is recited, our MPs don't cry foul against a religion.


That is the difference the way USA sees world and India sees the world.

And thats domestically you suffer so much when it comes to terrorism. Look at how the Women are purchased and exploited all over the Middle East by Arabs. They come to INdia have a good time with our women with their money and get away with it. In the Middle East, they treat as badly. So who really cares what the world thinks or see unless we make it a point to change.

 

[misterme2]

LOOK ITS SIMPLE!!!

INDIA SUPPORTS PALESTINE OVER ISRAEL BUT IT ESTABLISHED TIES WITH LATTER FOR ITS PHYSICAL INTERESTS.

INDIA SUPPORTS DEOCRATIC EGYPT OVER MUBARAK.

INDIA SUPPORTS A DEMOCRATIC PAKISTAN OVER MILITARY.

INDIA SUPPORTS RUSSIA OVER EU & US.

INDIA IS NEUTRAL OVER KOREAN CRISIS.

INDIA IS NEUTRAL OVER LATIN AMERICA.

INDIA SUPPORTS IRAN OVER SAUDI.

INDIA SUPPORTS TIBET OVER CHINA.

INDIA IS ACTIVELY NEUTRAL ON LANKAN CRISIS.

You can play the fine line, but when you need an ally then you see none of Muslim allies will come to your aid, they will side with Pakistan 100%. Can you show many examples of them siding with INida?

 

[harsh1488]

You can play the fine line, but when you need an ally then you see none of Muslim allies will come to your aid, they will side with Pakistan 100%. Can you show many examples of them siding with INida?

that is true but in peaceful time it can always be helpful to keep good relations with them

 

[indianpatriot]

You can play the fine line, but when you need an ally then you see none of Muslim allies will come to your aid, they will side with Pakistan 100%. Can you show many examples of them siding with INida?

That doesn't mean we should declare war on them!!!There is rising pro Indian sentiment in North Africa,UAE,Central Asian Muslim countries and Afghanistan.