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As bad as nawaz sharif is, a civilian govt is beneficial for the country economically.

Only dumba$$es who have completely forgotten/do not understand (because they are stupid baboons) the effect of military rule on Pakistan want martial law again.
 
Can you elaborate that?
As per my understanding there was only one type of martial law and that was nation-wide...All previous martial laws were like that.
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I referred to the disturbance it will cause locally and internationally....World may not like it and US may impose some sanctions too...No? and locally; all political parties will be on streets, media will b shouting....total chaos and disorder....

We don't really need that....
 
Can you elaborate that?
As per my understanding there was only one type of martial law and that was nation-wide...All previous martial laws were like that.

Some Bolsheviks style revolution can solve that problem for good.
Amen to that. but his siblings abroad will wage a war like Murtaza Bhutto. so they must be taken out as well where ever they are.
thing is,.. that Nawaz always has some of his siblings in India , Middle east or West or he is himself out .. to ensure all his family is not taken out by the people who have enough of this guy
 
I referred to the disturbance it will cause locally and internationally....World may not like it and US may impose some sanctions too...No? and locally; all political parties will be on streets, media will b shouting....total chaos and disorder....

We don't really need that....
External factor should not be allowed to dictate Pakistan's internal affairs. I don't remember USA imposing any such sanctions against Pakistan due to martial law..please prove me wrong...as uncle sam and the rest of the world is interested in working with the state of Pakistan and they already know who is in the power and visit GHQ more frequently than PM secretariat.

If you treat army as a party, it has 95% approval and no one will be out against PA. PMLn lions normally turn into dogs with tails in between their legs and they run amuck. PPP has no street power and their corrupt leadership is only hiding in UAE. PTI may issue a statement or two but no chance they will take to the streets since no one will join them and it will be more harmful to their politics than beneficial.
But more importantly, in all previous martial laws, there has never been a mass protest and especially the ones involving ouster of the grossly unpopular NS; rather sweets have been distributed on the roads of Lahore. The qeema naan voters of PMLn are not there to take beating by army and police.
 
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There is no chance of martial law, may be preparing for something else...
 
External factor should not be allowed to dictate Pakistan's internal affairs. I don't remember USA imposing any such sanctions against Pakistan due to martial law..please prove me wrong...as uncle sam and the rest of the world is interested in working with the state of Pakistan and they already know who is in the power and visit GHQ more frequently than PM secretariat.

If you treat army as a party, it has 95% approval and no one will be out against PA. PMLn lions normally turn into dogs with tails in between their legs and they run amuck. PPP has no street power and their corrupt leadership is only hiding in UAE. PTI may issue a statement or two but no chance they will take to the streets since no one will join them and it will be more harmful to their politics than beneficial.
But more importantly, in all previous martial laws, there has never been a mass protest and especially the ones involving ouster of the grossly unpopular NS; rather sweets have been distributed on the roads of Lahore. The qeema naan voters of PMLn are not there to take beating by army and police.

Still...It will be bad for Pakistan's image in world....Generals should do what they are trained for....In my opinion, army should play role from behind the screen as it is doing now...No need to be so stupid to come at camera and look stupid and allow the world to make a mockery of whole country....This cat and mouse game should be stop b/w politicians and army....This is a damn country of 200 m people not a personal flat of someone.....US and whole world likes to invade and exploit those countries who choose dictatorship under pretext of liberating people and bringing democracy. It is very easy to make western people believe how dictatorship is bad and it is very easy for west to gain public support of common people because it is easy to portray how people are oppressed under dictatorship and how dictator is cruel and oppressing people....Libya, Iraq are prime examples of it....

Yes, you are right. External factors shouldn't be allowed to dictate one's policy but they do influence you and a country like Pakistan can't afford to go against world perception for too long until we become self sufficient/super power like China or Russia, who really don't give a damn about world. They can probably face and bear world alone but we can't....We still heavily relied on west....

We should care about our international image and perception.
 
I wish for Martial Law again in this Country for at least 40 to 50 years
With the Generals like Raheel Shareef
That is pathetic, this kind of thinking and approach has doomed us. Democracy is the best system till now we have. there is no other way of development except democracy. It refines the thinking and attitudes of the people. democracy is the way to go, nothing else.
 
As much as I hate these political parties which are corrupt to the core but remember toppling any government in Pakistan will only bring anarchy and instability, for short term you may see some good results but in the longer run it will be a total chaos just like we witnessed it in past, 3 times to be exact. Pakistani economy is recovering, we are back on track and it will certainly take some time to make things better. Nonetheless we need to go after corrupt politicians and make law and order situation better that is the only way forward. For fan boys who think any dictator can make us super power please get your heads out of your rear end.
 
Some people in Pakistan always have a problem and their brain farts every now and then for a Martial Law.

as uncle sam and the rest of the world is interested in working with the state of Pakistan and they already know who is in the power and visit GHQ more frequently than PM secretariat.

USA will work with us even if we don't have a civilian gov but they never liked it and have told us in the past that a civilian gov is the best choice. You must remember that a dictatorship has never brought us peace and we were always troubled in every possible way. Do you really want to sabotage the recovering Pakistani economy which is back on track after so many years.

The same people who are wishing for martial law will be protesting against it. You may not like Sharifs but they are the only people who have brought investment and stability after lot of time.
 
At first I was thinking it had something to do with Kashmir.
 
Whatever the many failings of politicians martial law is not the answer.

Remember, we got the worst state sponsoring of extremist elements during Zia's martial law. And the largest internal military operation in our history was done under a nationalist government in the then NWFP.

Democracy forces civilians to take ownership of operations.
 
As bad as nawaz sharif is, a civilian govt is beneficial for the country economically.

Only dumba$$es who have completely forgotten/do not understand (because they are stupid baboons) the effect of military rule on Pakistan want martial law again.
Economically a Military Government is more beneficial - not to mention decrease in corruption and higher efficiency.

The problem is; that it'll completely #### our foreign affairs.
 
Aik kashmir ka masla to hal nahi kia military nay, so plz let them focus on their job
 
If might makes right, why isn’t every country ruled by its military? The military possesses all, or at least most, of the guns. Some frustrated civilians at times may prefer the idea of stable and efficient military rule over the messy, argumentative and deadlocked governance by the politicians for whom they voted.

But history shows that the military cannot deliver the jobs, economic prosperity and other essentials that people want, so the relatively new idea of instituting civilian control over the military has a pragmatic appeal, if the basic human desire for freedom is not enough.

What people expect from political leaders is “more than just liberty and freedom". ... It’s a good job. It’s a reasonable degree of security. It’s the ability to think and speak your mind. But that’s not the military’s culture that is focused on following orders and fulfilling the mission at hand.
 

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