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UNSC seat: US throws water over India's hopes

my .02, India should not be adamant about the veto power at this stage. We can always work from the inside to change UNSC as time goes on.
bhaagte chor ki langoti hi sahi :D (Essence: Take what you can, worry about the rest later)

True, if India insists on veto, it might stall the reform all together.
 
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Pakistan now is the 5th biggest country in the world in population and we would like a permanent seat in the UNSC as well.
 
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Well this settles one important question I had before. Obama was not clear on whether his endorsement of a permanent seat would include veto. It looks like none of the veto welding members are happy about expanding veto powers.

I am positive they will not expand veto powers, I also think that they might do away with veto powers at all. Why anyone need it in first place. The veto power is prime reason of UN no being effective, you try to get a terrorist organisation and some country will use veto.....

It should be majority decision and not veto.
 
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I am positive they will not expand veto powers, I also think that they might do away with veto powers at all. Why anyone need it in first place. The veto power is prime reason of UN no being effective, you try to get a terrorist organisation and some country will use veto.....

It should be majority decision and not veto.

Since when do people give up power willingly. Veto power democratic and conducive to good process or not, is not going to be given up lightly (or at all in my opinion).
 
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Since when do people give up power willingly. Veto power democratic and conducive to good process or not, is not going to be given up lightly (or at all in my opinion).

Agreed, I am not saying it will happen or happen easily, but that is the right way of doing it.
 
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US throws water over India's hopes for UNSC seat -

WASHINGTON/ NEW YORK: The US has cautioned against expecting any breakthrough "anytime soon" on the UN Security Council reforms, dampening India's hopes for a permanent seat just a week after President Barack Obama backed its quest for this prestigious slot.



A top US official also clarified that Obama's endorsement of India for permanent membership in the UNSC during his visit to New Delhi was not a last minute decision, but had been well thought out. It was kept hush-hush, since the endorsement was a big news item, he said.


"I would caution against expecting any kind of breakthrough anytime soon," assistant secretary of state Robert Blake told journalists in New York and Washington during a digital video press conference.

"I think the President and others have made it clear that this (reform) is going to be a long and complicated process and that we're committed to a modest expansion both of permanent and non-permanent seats," he said.


The official said the only "real change" Obama announced was US support to India's permanent seat in the 15-membered wing of the UN, but "we have always been clear that this is going to be a long-term and very complicated process."

Blake, however, asserted that no condition has been imposed on India in lieu of the support for the Security Council berth. "No, there's not conditionality."

He also answered questions on a range of issues including terrorism, Pakistan and China.

Blake said it is in interest of Pakistan to crack down on terrorist groups operating inside the country.

"The President (Obama) was very clear that Pakistan itself has been the chief victim of international terrorism. And so it's very much in its own interest to crack down on these groups, which increasingly are operating as a syndicate and it's very difficult to really distinguish between them," he said.

Blake also said Obama's enthusiasm for a stronger Indo-US relationship is not to "counterbalance" China's growing influence over Asia.

"I don't think you heard anybody say that in the course of the President's three-day visit (to India), we're looking to counterbalance China in any way," he added.

On nuclear issues, Blake said US said it considered India as a partner in its global non-proliferation efforts.

"One of the criticisms in the past has been that US sometimes regarded India more as a target than a partner in non-proliferation, I think the steps President (Obama) announced in the course of this visit showed definitely that we now see India as a partner in the global non-proliferation space

"Not only in terms of the actions, but also in terms of our growing efforts in the nuclear area," he added.

Elaborating on UNSC reforms, he said there are many contenders for permanent seats as India, Japan, Brazil, South Africa and Germany.

"There's the whole question of the veto. And so we need to have a detailed and serious conversation with all of our friends who are competing for these seats," he added.

Read more: US throws water over India's hopes for UNSC seat - The Times of India US throws water over India's hopes for UNSC seat - The Times of India

It says clearly that India what be on the Council anytime soon but later on. So what with all the comotion and worrie that India won't be ?
 
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Why not let every country get into the UNSC, we could do away with UNO???:what:

Na rahega baas na bajegi baansari....
 
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Why not let every country get into the UNSC, we could do away with UNO???:what:

Na rahega baas na bajegi baansari....

You don't need to let every country into the UNSC, but every region deserves a seat in the UNSC. Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East all deserve a seat in the council of power if the UN is to live up to the claim of representing all the nations.

And since India's already jumped into bed with Uncle Sam, it can hardly claim to represent the interests of the developing world anymore. India's a US lackey and and doesn't have an independent voice.

So to better serve the interests of the developing world, I support Pakistan as the next permanent member of UN security council :pakistan:

Pakistan is a nuclear power and has the 5th largest population. It makes sense.
 
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You don't need to let every country into the UNSC, but every region deserves a seat in the UNSC. Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East all deserve a seat in the council of power if the UN is to live up to the claim of representing all the nations.

And since India's already jumped into bed with Uncle Sam, it can hardly claim to represent the interests of the developing world anymore. India's a US lackey and and doesn't have an independent voice.

So to better serve the interests of the developing world, I support Pakistan as the next permanent member of UN security council :pakistan:

Pakistan is a nuclear power and has the 5th largest population. It makes sense.


First- You did not get my sarcasm.

Second-As per your logic US has used and thrown Pakistan away, now it has become independent and free from all clutches of US/NATO strikes dicta ts etc:what:

Also if the nuclear power is the key to membership, then how about North Korea, Libya and Iran??

Third- Why don't you put points in favor of your country to join the club?

Finally- Stop assuming that India has become any ones maid, it is Turkey which is in NATO embrace.
 
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